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(a) Your question was not general. You qualified it in your second sentence in a way that makes your question specific to this case (i.e. women in Tzahal). I can answer your question in a general fashion (see ), but you will find it will not address the question you have in your mind.
(b) Equality does not infringe on anyone’s rights. The expression of the equality (reverse affirmative action, etc.) may infringe. That does not, however, mean that equality does not “have a stand.”
OneOfManyParticipantgonna quote myself for a minute here:
Hm, I was actually trying to talk about equality in general, using the army only as an example.
(http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tzahal-sweatshirts/page/2#post-433896)
We were talking about the concept of equality. The practicality of incorporation does not factor into the concept. And while the religious implications are definitely a sticky wicket in and of themselves, they are still irrelevant to what we were discussing.
(http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tzahal-sweatshirts/page/2#post-433771)
OneOfManyParticipantawwww thanks ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantI am not b’davka for or against them. Joe seemed to think I was defending wearing them from an ideological standpoint, and I was trying to tell him that I wasn’t. I do own one and have no problem wearing it, but would not wear it in public as a statement because I have no statement to make.
OneOfManyParticipantif anyone is having a problem with seeing stars I will be glad to call up Bugs Bunny and have him solve that problem for you ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantyay I got a point! :3 and “coup d’ectat”…srsly corny -_-
lol @ Yserbius ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantand oh yeah I get to be the artist ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantI’m wearing my Tzahal sweatshirt. ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantWell, we wouldn’t have photos, but we COULD (and should) have artist’s interpretations of our avowed CR descriptions. 🙂
you: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/here-we-go-again-1#post-413119
Goq, me (and others): http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/do-you-have-a-picture-in-your-mind/page/2#post-376565
OneOfManyParticipanthorripilation=goose bumps
OneOfManyParticipantI know what horripilation means (I think from a Pratchett book actually lol). uhhh that’s about it
hankie of deawhaaaaaa?
OneOfManyParticipantI basically agreed with those rants. Although I can understand if you don’t like to mix your rants with your novels.
Actually, to me it wasn’t a matter of disagreeing or even objecting on grounds of taste. I just felt that the point she was trying to make (which I essentially agree with, as I said to haifagirl above) was lost in her mode of expression.
OneOfManyParticipanttalmud: yoish and this is why I like to go by Tonks D: (hem hem 42)
OneOfManyParticipantno worries. s’all good. 🙂
OneOfManyParticipantNot looking at it from the Torah perspective (although it is objectionable in that respect)–I object to it from let’s get real here perspective. The outline you quote above may be the basis of her ideas, and that’s all fine and nice, but she presents them quite differently in her book. Literally every other page there was a rant about the soulless maggoty wretches trying to suck the souls out of the noble godly paragons of industry and innovation. I can’t pull up the exact quotes because I don’t own the book, but I remember her using the same adjectives to describe the “good guys” and the “bad guys” over and over, and every time one of those little passages came up I was like, “there she goes again…” And seriously, the radio broadcast at the end–I really thought she had made her point by then!
Basically, I do not like it because I feel like whatever point she was trying to make deteriorated into vitriolic drivel. I think it her ideas suffer because they are forced into the novel arc. Expressed in the way she outlines her ideas above, her manifesto would have been a lot more reasonable. So I guess I really object to the novel more than the philosophy. As a Jew I don’t believe in the philosophy, but I don’t have an objection to it over any other philosophy out there.
OneOfManyParticipantwhy can’t we just discuss it over there
OneOfManyParticipantIcot: hmmmm still don’t see it that way. water under the bridge, though.
I usually use the -_- to express annoyance. Kinda like the counterpart to ^_^ I guess. It’s a multipurpose emoticon, though.
OneOfManyParticipant:/ Syag, sending some happy energy your way! *happy energy*
OneOfManyParticipant[…]rewarding accomplishment rather than incompetence.
I think you are simplifying (or at least whitewashing) her philosophy. What I got from reading Atlas Shrugged is that the unfortunate are all soulless grasping vermin that seek to leech off the successful and drag them down to shame and mediocrity. I very much agree with the essential ideas (as you have stated) of hard work and vision being valued, but she takes these ideas to an extreme that doesn’t even make any sense.
Also, about her writing–in my personal opinion, she is not a great novelist. True, she has very good technical style, being that English is not her first language and all, but that isn’t the only criterion of good writing.
OneOfManyParticipanthmmm I see.
OneOfManyParticipanthaha Aquabella is a capella, so put them on your sefira list. 🙂 I have the same thing with lyrics–actually, it’s more like I don’t like my music to be distracting. So I do like a lot of foreign stuff (like Aquabella). And Lindsey Stirling is soooo awesome! I love her (and Pentatonix’s) cover of Radioactive–did you get a chance to listen to it before sefira? Also that cover of Skyrim she did with Peter Hollens–I have his a capella versions of that and Misty Mountains on my playlist (the Misty Mountains one is realllllllly good. I had my mother listen to that and then his cover of Shenandoah and she was like how is that the same person). Also, for your list :)–specifially, Eugene Friesen’s Dances of Rasputin. and also you can put on S. J. Tucker. cuz she is awesome.
OneOfManyParticipantOkay it was a lot pretentious. But really that was mostly Paloma and that is very in character for her age (I recall learning the word “sophomoric” at that age from my exasperated mother :P). I liked Renee. :'(
April 14, 2013 3:19 am at 3:19 am in reply to: How to tell the Shadchan that the girl's too heavy #946255OneOfManyParticipantWell, he did show himself to be of shallow judgement there. I wouldn’t call everyone who rejects a person based on weight stupid blah blah etc., but this one is.
don’t know about the avodah zarah, though
OneOfManyParticipantThe Hedgehog book? It was a teeny bit pretentious but I still like it a lot. It was very well written. And ULTIMATE PLOT TWIST. D:
OneOfManyParticipantwritersoul: lol we have like identical tastes in music (surprised?). ^_^ I love the soundtracks from things Disney, Le Mis, Wicked, various other Broadway shows, but mostly I like purely instrumental music (some classical, some no). Also purely a capella music (even when it’s not sefira). My favorites right now are Aquabella, Lindsey Stirling and Eugene Friesen.
April 14, 2013 2:40 am at 2:40 am in reply to: Possible reasons Orthodox man sat in plastic bag on plane :-) #956086OneOfManyParticipant#5 is pretty funny ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantand you are snorting me up with your charming condescension. -_-
OneOfManyParticipantdobby :'(
OneOfManyParticipantlol that second one reminds me: when you are on the phone and you want to hang up, and you are like, so…yeah…
OneOfManyParticipanthaha I will be sure to google some (or you could just enlighten me as to the pertinent bits… :P).
OneOfManyParticipantjmh: So I just started the custard book today–it wasn’t so bad as they gave a lot of background within the first few pages. I am up to the part where they are in the custard dimension and Ricky stabs the refrigerator. haha I like this book muchly. ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantsqueak:
oom read my phrasing again. if you thought between the infinites i meant only ordinary numbers then you would have to interpret between 0 and 1 the same way.
So you are saying that since there is only one class of infinite set that you would be referring to between zero and one, you should logically interpret any other classes of infinity being referred to in the same context as the same, yes? I think the opposite–since there can be more types of infinity in reference to the continuum than in reference to the space between zero and one, you cannot establish any sort of parallelism with which you could reasonably perform that induction. (i. e. I don’t see how you can claim it is intuitive.)
April 12, 2013 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm in reply to: How to tell the Shadchan that the girl's too heavy #946253OneOfManyParticipantlol @ WIY
yitayningwut: Did you read ShalomToYou’s (now deleted) comment on the older shidduchim/weight thread?
OneOfManyParticipantShloime Gertner’s “Besimcha” (not fully in Yiddish, but whatever). Also the Shmeichel song. ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantHeyyyyyyy Luna! We’ve missed you. Welcome back! ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantwhat you say?! make your time.
OneOfManyParticipantActually though the blame is on squeak for this one. He did not specify which infinite series between negative and positive infinity he was talking about, and so you assumed that he was talking aleph null class infinity, when really he was talking about aleph one class infinity (which he only later specified).
My father explained the difference between these through the pigeonhole principle, with the Hilbert’s hotel example and also the 99 bottles of beer. Just look those stuffs up. ^_^
OneOfManyParticipantMost of them. Though Kate Atkinson definitely qualifies for lewd. But you should probably look the plots up for yourself before reading (as I do), and NOT take my opinion on it, as I do differentiate between lewdness and “content” (which I am guessing you don’t). 🙂
OneOfManyParticipantnooooooo you must watch ATLA first
OneOfManyParticipanttorah613: Yeah, George Eliot was female. That is the name her books are published under, so I use that.
And of course Wilder isn’t great–she is SUPREMELY AWESOME.
ym613: Got Lois Lowry. 🙂 A lot of people have recommended DWJ to me, and I have to say, if Miyazaki made a film out of one of her novels, then it’s gotta be good. 😀 And Emily Dickinson is excellent, but I really haven’t read enough of her to give a good rec.
WIY: Which books?
OneOfManyParticipantAudio books are okay if they are read in a male voice, but it’s better to be machmir and cover your eyes as well.
OneOfManyParticipantonly if you cover your eyes
OneOfManyParticipantAnd now since I can’t resist…here’s a list of supremely awesome female writers:
Katherine Mansfield
Amy Tan
Pearl S. Buck
Kate Atkinson
TONI MORRISONNNNN
George Eliot
Laura Ingalls Wilder
Willa Cather
Cynthia Ozick
Virginia Woolf
Lois Lowry
Muriel Barbery
OneOfManyParticipantThat’s a shame–some of the very bestest writers are female (ahemToniMorrisonaAHEMahem). Here are some Edith Wharton quotes:
“She sang, of course, “M’ama!” and not “he loves me,” since an unalterable and unquestioned law of the musical world required that the German text of French operas sung by Swedish artists should be translated into Italian for the clearer understanding of English-speaking audiences.”
“It was easy enough to despise the world, but decidedly difficult to find any other habitable region.”
“‘Who’s “they”? Why don’t you all get together and be “they” yourselves?'”
OneOfManyParticipantWhy, are you thinking of making your screen name your legal name?
OneOfManyParticipantwell, now that you say you watch TV :P…you should watch Avatar: The Last Airbender. You can save it for your next illness. 🙂 (Also, you can stream all three seasons for free if you have Amazon Prime.)
OneOfManyParticipanthehe 🙂
OneOfManyParticipantWe, on the other hand, are in a generation of atheists and evolutionists that are bringing proofs against Hakodosh Baruch Hu.
There are no PROOFS against the existence of God. There is only evidence that can be extrapolated into such an understanding.
OneOfManyParticipantIf you that sort of satire, you should also read Nikolai Gogol. Also for excellent satire in general, Mark Twain (you’ve probably read some of his stuff already–his short stories are the best, though) and Edith Wharton (kind of like Jane Austen but funnier).
OneOfManyParticipant^_^
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