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They’ve been deranged by non-stop propaganda lies against the (usually photoshop filtered) “Orange Man” to the point they say prefer what has happened to major U.S. cities such as Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, New York … than have Donald Trump stay in office.
For people who who want escape the tyranny of extreme left social media platforms and search engines with their suppression of speech and free exchange of political (and even medical) ideas there are alternate platforms emerging. The who want to, will have platforms where they can call everyone racists and anti-Semites to their heart’s content, and people who want to tune them out will have other avenues. At this time most new platforms are in early stages of development so they aren’t as “good” technologically, but they’ll get there.
Mr. Biden is NOT the President elect. The AP has said Biden is the presumptive P.E. and the Democrat Party invented “The Office of The President Elect,” but until the States certify the election and the Electoral College casts its ballots there is no President Elect.
On a side note, Las Vegas has not paid any bets for people who gambled on Biden. Outside the AP/ Democrat Party Media at this time the count is 232 TRUMP vs. 227 BIDEN.
Did anyone else see the clips showing dozens of leftwing supposedly “independent” media outlets reading the same verbatim scripts down to the same cadence? The left tries to pretend that they have a broad consensus, when its in fact many no-thought, no research mouthpieces for the same scripted talking points.
The problems with the voting machines are real. The evidence and complaints go back years. The voting machines have so much potential for fraud is why some allege they were invented precisely to rig elections.
The American people, the world, demands a hand recount in all crucial battleground counties. We need to have confidence in the election.
There needs to be a hand count in a sample of counties in every contested state.
There needs to be an investigation into who ordered the destruction of the envelopes and why. Is this standard? Was this unusual?
There needs to be a forensic investigation into the vote counting machines to see how they subject they are to manipulation.
Every affidavit alleging fraud needs to be investigated.
Huge cash rewards plus immunity need to be granted anyone with first hand knowledge of fraudulent election activity willing to come forward.
The American people and the world need confidence in this election.
Somehow in NYC where there was no need to meddle in the vote count, Trump picked up a lot of votes. Same thing in Los Angeles county where Trump picked up 200,000 votes over 2016. No fraud massive vote gain for Trump. Same thing in every battleground state IN-PERSON voting. But somehow people who vote by mail in battle ground states manage to vote in unheard of numbers for the Democrat. Not likely. Stolen election – likely.
Trump promises vaccine coming out very soon. Democrats say he’s lying and delusional. Vaccine comes out as promised. Democrats: you see we told you he was pathologically lying. Huh?
The Medical Maidel.
As if Joe Biden will have any say in the matter. He’s calling (wheezing) for “unity” while all around people are calling (shrieking) for blacklists. Joe Biden will be ignored.
At every stop on the campaign trail Trump promised a vaccine was coming out very soon. 70 Million Americans cheered and chanted ‘we love you.’ The corrupt media, big tech, Democrats, academics mocked the President and his 70 million supporters. They insisted Trump was delusional and a pathological liar. They convinced many people to vote against him. A week after the election Pfizer announced the vaccine. Has one person admitted they were wrong or lied about Trump’s great work to fast track a vaccine? The swamp may have denied the American people their best president in recent memory. They cheated the 70 million who voted for him and hoodwinked many into opposing him. It’s not over yet. There is still a chance the correct person will be inaugurated.
If Trump goes the corrupt media will return to bashing Israel multiple times a day in excruciating detail.
“Why vote for him? ” – It may prove impossible to eradicate mosquitoes, but that’s not an indication that you should breed more mosquitoes.
In years past, limited mail-in voting produced PROVEN small scale election fraud. This is the first time the U.S. had widespread mail-in voting and people and there are legit concerns of widespread irregularities or even fraud. The people, the world, needs to have confidence in the U.S. election.
The unedited TWO-HOUR audio of the FBI interview with the USPS guy is now out, so now that can be evaluated.
The Benford Law graph of only one candidate’s votes spikes at 5. That’s the unvarnished fact.
What’s the issue with looking into allegation of voting irregularities / fraud before an election is certified? Don’t you want the legitimacy of the POTUS to be beyond reproach? Don’t you want the 70 + million voters who voted for the other candidate to feel assured that the election was legit and supporting the POTUS 2021-2024?
There are also reports of “Glitches” with the tabulating machines. We’ll see if the Georgia recount uncovers evidence of more “Glitches” and in whose direction they “Glitched.” There are also screenshots of vote numbers with the names of the candidates in front of those numbers changing positions that should be investigated.
Only one candidate allegedly got 450,000 votes with no down ticket votes. That should be investigated.
Counties allegedly had near 100% turnout. Impossible. Even in countries where voting is mandatory they don’t get above 90% or 95% because things happen to some of the voters between the time the list is made and the election.
25,000 votes allegedly came from nursing homes in jurisdictions that outlaw ballot harvesting. That should be investigated.
Better the truth come out now than after the election is certified or the wrong person takes office. The aspiring candidate may be above board. If he had no idea what his family was up to with regard to alleged influence peddling, why would he know what’s going on deep within some political machine?
Not lying, emes nisht sheker. They played it on Tim Pool last night. Unless YouTube took down the episode it will be available for you or anyone to to watch the show / listen to the recording. The recording was probably clipped as well so you don’t have to watch the show.
And the YouTube video of a mathematician talking about Bedford’s Law in 2011 I mentioned to show that Bedford’s Law is not something cooked up last week. Anybody can read up (or watch video clips) to understand Bedford’s Law, on why it’s real, and why it works, and why it’s an indicator of (election) fraud. One candidate’s numbers fall in line with Bedford’s Law prediction. One candidates numbers violate this law. Raises a flag that needs to be considered.
se2015 your arguments are not compelling. All the critical/contested states stopped the count officially for the night, and resumed in the wee hours while not being observed, and somehow the candidate who was trailing was now in the lead. That warrants investigation.
This morning I watched a YouTube video POSTED IN 2011 talking about Bedford’s Law vis-à-vis evaluating fraud in elections. So that is real too.
An unnamed source within the house oversite committee remains unnamed. There is also an audio recording (which I heard) purporting to be the meeting with the FBI and the postal worker pressuring him to recant. If that is real, that’s very serious.
Benford’s Law (Mathematics) is used worldwide to evaluate potential fraud in elections. Which candidate’s results confirm Benford’s Law and which candidates purported results violate Benford’s law?
Quick counts of election votes generally indicate honest ballot counts and protracted counts indicate the possibility of fraud in an election. Which states dragged out the process?
The Washington Post claimed the postal worker recanted, but provided no evidence of the supposed recant. The guy quickly released a video saying he never recounted nothing. Who you gonna’ believe? The Washington Post with an “unnamed source?” or the man himself?
When you think of the campaigns the two candidates ran, which aphorism of Toras Emes applies to which candidate?
Lo Yogati Umatzasi – Al Ta’amin
Yogati Umatzasi – Ta’aminI researched the Proud Boys. They definitely are not White Supremacists. They only people who need to worry about the Proud Boys are violent leftwing street agitators.
They are leaving in moving trucks because of the leavings on the sidewalks.
It’s not rocket science. During an encounter with the cops don’t make the cops fear for their lives and your chances of getting shot are near 0%. Not exactly 0% but near 0%. Doesn’t matter your race or gender. Either because of genetics or environment some people can’t understand this. It doesn’t go well for them. It doesn’t matter if you get a good or bad cop. There are a small percentage of bad cops. Rotten apples having bad days. If this alleged spoiled, rotten apple pulls over a black man who shuts off the engine, keeps his hands visible and stays civil that person will NOT get shot even if they have no license, registration, or proof of insurance. Even if that person has outstanding warrants. They might get arrested, but they will not get shot. As a civilian interacting with a cop you have to do your part in the encounter. Your behavior is 100% on you. I don’t think many (any) big city cops are still acting like country sheriffs in the segregated south breaking people’s taillights and then writing tickets. We live in a large, complex society. And males threatening cops and females getting nasty, hysterical and manipulative is bad behavior that should transformed into civility and professionalism. Not excused and encouraged.
If you think the fellow is a human being then he has agency and needs to control “his own context.” And to the extent that he didn’t, he can blame whatever image he sees in the mirror.
FACT – A family member called 911 asking for help with this fellow
FACT – This fellow had an open warrant for his arrest
FACT – This fellow was a convicted sex offender
FACT – This fellow had a prior gun arrest
FACT – This fellow fought off the cops actively resisting arrest
FACT – During the 911 call one of the specific complaints was that this fellow took keys to a car which was not his to operate. So he had to be considered a threat to the children in the car.
FACT – This fellow was armed with a knife
FACT – Was not showing his hands rather he was rooting around for something which MUST BE assumed to be a weapon.
FACT – This fellow was shot according to every reasonable standard of U.S. law and known public policy.King Solomon said the mother of the baby is not the one who is willing to kill the baby in the name of “equality.”
Where is your family from? When did they arrive in the U.S.?
Ubiq – Thank you again for your responses.
Since HCQ is only the ‘Zelenko-recommended’ Ionophore for ZINC I’m now thinking the whole HCQ controversy is akin to a slight-of-hand magic trick. It a distraction from the real question. Which is, does ZINC (taken within the first five days acc. to Zelenko) knock down the coronavirus. No one claims HCQ (by itself) is the magic bullet. And yet, so far, seemingly every article including Fauci’s latest video response knocking the treatment ONLY SAYS HCQ doesn’t work. They drop off mention of zinc in their conclusion.
That you didn’t expect that patient to die is an anecdotal instance of (what I think we already know). Her outcome is NOT the experience most people will have. And that’s what we need to understand. How rare is her outcome? I take vaccines such as the annual flu shot (and post my support of them) because the legit science says the chances of injury are remote. I drive even though that assumes risk. What we really need to know (even without testing everyone) is how many out of 330 million have had this lady’s outcome. Especially if this coronavirus (like the common cold) is here to stay. Neither political party’s desire to control the White House nor any drug company’s profit, or media conglomerates agenda amounts to a hill of beans in relation to the truth of what we’re facing.
I hate going down this road, but I’m really getting the feeling that the mainstream media is acting like the propaganda arm of the needlessly hysterical ‘anti-vaxxer’ movement in regard to the coronavirus. I go to the grocery store every week or so. The employees have pretty much been working straight-thru since March and yet I’ve been made to be afraid of going in there for 20 minutes.
“If it helps you sleep better I know of a pregnant 36 year old who sadly died in spite of hydroxychloroquine and zinc”
Thanks again. I got from the other thread that you never said people shouldn’t take HCQ and were explaining (repeatedly) why doctors weren’t compelled by Zelenko’s (at the time) unreleased study. When I tuned out the other thread the Zelenko study wasn’t out yet.
This is a case exactly what I’m looking to analyze. (I know it’s anecdotal.)
Was this woman (may she have a lichtige gan eden) fit as an athlete, averagely healthy, averagely unhealthy or (previously) sickly? How long after diagnosis did she start HCQ-Zinc+ treatment? Was she careful when she went out or cavalier?Where on the expected spectrum was her outcome? From probable to didn’t see that coming.
HCQ+zinc aside, I’m interested in your medical opinion about the extent the feelings people have about covid (especially for those under 80 and generally healthy and even unhealthy) are being engineered by the media. The number of deaths for averagely healthy people under age 80 in a population of 330 million don’t seem that high from media reports. They seem anecdotal picked from around the whole country. In Crown Heights the fatalities (among people whom I personally knew and was sorry to see die) most (of course not all) were older than the average age that Americans die even without covid. Other people got very sick, but came back home. If the media decided to highlight the gory details of every car crash (and publicly mock those who insisted on driving and then got into accidents) they could probably scare many away from getting on the road.
“Please don;t take my word for it. Look at his study table 2 . Where this data is outlined.”
Ubiquitin: In my estimation you’ve 100% established yourself as a good faith poster, I for one don’t need to verify everything you maintain.
Thank you for your patience the example of the laundry soap and explaining the better health of Zelenko Group A and that we have no info at all on the control group. I now get why the medical professionals say Dr. Zev Zel’s research is ‘inconclusive.’ That said, to quote Zelenko, ‘If you’re floundering in the ocean and come upon a piece of driftwood, grab it and hang on. Don’t drown waiting for a rigorous double-blind study on the buoyancy of driftwood.’ I’ve been watching the doctor speak on numerous videos, especially his conversation with ‘Doctor Drew.’ I have zero doubt that Dr. Zelenko is a sane, responsible western medical doctor. Anyone could be in error, but there is nothing about him that gives off an ulterior motive. Unlike quacks who just happen to have the ‘silver bullet’ for sale, Zelenko doesn’t sell HCQ. He’s also unequivocal that it’s the zinc gotten into the cell within the first five days of illness that kill the virus. Every article I read about the ‘studies’ that didn’t find a benefit from HCQ (so far) without exception use a slight of hand. They either discuss HCQ without mention of zinc or make no mention of when they initiated the HCQ treatment. They all seem to have an agenda and ulterior motive (which I imagine to be political or financial).
Can you point me to other studies on HCQ+Zinc+ given to people under 70 within the first five days of illness that found no efficacy?“a decrease in hospitilizations. The study TRIED to show a decrease in mortality, but was unable to do so.”
– This I don’t get. The study showed a decrease in hospitalizations: I take this to mean that among those who took the Zelenko Protocol (HCQ+Zinc+) fewer patients got sick enough to require hospitalization. This sounds like a win. A major win certanily worth trying since the alleged danger from taking HCQ was false.
“Unable to show a decrease in death.” Certainly the opponents to HCQ aren’t claiming that Zelenko’s patients stayed home and died. So what do they mean?
The total death rate from COVID is low. People (especially if they don’t check all the risk-boxes, old, sick etc.) can get very sick, but then not die (even without HCQ+zinc). Zelenko didn’t claim that taking HCQ+zinc is the ONLY way people won’t die. What Zelenko claimed and the evidence that his patients required less hospitalization SHOWED (as I understand it with no medical knowledge) is that patents who take HCQ+Zinc+ early have a greater likelihood of beating COVID without the prolonged nasty battle which can require hospital, respiration etc. etc. If the protocol doesn’t decrease OVERALL DEATH, but helps (the people who might not DIE even without the protocol) prevent the need from hospitalization and the long crazy battle to beat the virus is that not reason enough to take the protocol?Rep. Louie Gohmert says he’s ‘all in’ on using hydroxychloroquine + zinc. Thank you for allowing us to see how the treatment will play out in your case. If it works (and I hope it does) I wonder if will HCQ+ Zinc will also cure TDS in future patients who suffer both conditions concurrently.
Since March 2020 Dr. Zelenko has said the HCQ just unlocks the cell for the ZINC to fight the virus. Fauci (who admitted lying about masks) did not say one word about zinc. Something feels so OFF about Fauci and the rest of the opposition to HCQ+Zinc. From the retracted lies about the drug being dangerous, to the constant repetition that HCQ isn’t effective when all along it has been the claim of the medical proponents of this treatment that it is actually the zinc that knocks out the virus.
Also, imagine? We have facilities named after, and monuments to Nazi’s in this country. Who do you think got us to the moon? – Many people have no idea how many NAZIS who were useful to the U.S. / Russia (such as the head of NASA) were allowed to continue their careers.
People can object to statues, but we have a process in this country to effect change, at least we used to, and it wasn’t Marxist Agitators and Race Baiting Organizers leading a nationwide terror campaign.
Why not use a real life example? Ukraine has statues to Bogdan Khmelnitzky (gezeros tach v’Tat) and others because of their legit cultural significance to Ukraine. When Jews took offense to the statues because of the massacres how much sympathy and accommodation did the Jews get? Did the Jews rampage in response?
I should add that in 2000 I initially refused (for no good reason) and ended up in a long conversation with a census bureau employee who came to my house.
It does not require me to cooperate. Ok. Per the census bureau website participation is mandatory, as described in Title 13 of the U.S. Code. (So organizing a census is from the Constitution and the obligation for people to participate is from the U.S. Code.) So at a minimum you have issues with dina d’malchusa, no?
A big fan of your posts over the years, your reason for not cooperating is very “Milhouse” and honestly you crack me up.
As for the chilul Hashem part, you might reconsider. I didn’t use that term loosely. If you don’t send in the form no one knows who lives there. But if an enumerator comes out to your residence and you refuse them in person and you look like a frum Jew (added to the others who refuse for less unique reasons) the benefit you gain from minutely advancing your political agenda is seemingly outweighed by the negative perception you likely cause. If for no other reason how much it costs the taxpayers for follow up. Maybe if you’re really friendly and spend time explaining your reason for not participating you can make a Kiddush Hashem, as they’ll think this guy isn’t ignorant/apathetic/nasty he’s just off his rocker and it will help individuate the community.
I forgot to include drunk on my list. Maybe the person is too shikker to answer a few questions.
The decennial census doesn’t count Jews, but the U.S. Census Bureau also conducts a sample survey called NCVS (Natl Crime Victimization Survey) which among many crimes measures hate crimes, including anti-Semitic hate crimes. If there is a lack of cooperation in a “Jewish area” these uncooperative people are not causing, but certainly hampering the Federal government from combating [the rising magefa of] Antisemitism.
The number one reason for not participating in the census is ignorance. Number two absence (which is no problem so we’ll leave that out.) Number three extreme selfishness/inconsideration such as when people say they don’t have the “time.” Which is as about as selfish as opposing Hatzalah because it adds traffic to the road when you want to drive somewhere. Number four is probably anti-government sentiment. People are angry at the government for an unrelated reason so they take it out on the census (which is really a subsection of #1) and then there is illness. Some people are too sick to respond and maybe they have no one to help them. Since the census uses translators (including Yiddish an Hebrew) lack of English is no reason. I guess there are people can claim laziness or something. When a census enumerator is (illegally) thrown out by a frum Yid the chilul Hashem is of the highest magnitude. Not hyperbole at all. It reveals (or confirms) a level of ignorance (and their lack of that person’s education and / or civility) that’s hard to overestimate. The 10-year census of every person is required by the constitution. That’s the only obligation for every person in the United States. You can’t name a single other one. Because there isn’t any. When someone refuses the census (even though we no longer prosecute) it’s a very poor showing in the eyes of the employees of the census bureau. And when a Yid foolishly behaves that way, it’s also a massive, needless chilul Hashem.
Not cooperating with the Census Bureau is like chasing away the mailman and then wondering, “How come there’s no mail in my box?”
The U.S. Census brings brocho ($$$) and representation to states in direct proportion to the population calculated (indirectly as Milhouse pointed out). Anyone who doesn’t cooperate, especially if you refuse when the census bureau follows up with your household directly, causes a Chilul Hashem of the highest magnitude.
So the allegation that HCQ is dangerous has been debunked. See NY Post. 06/04/2020 5:15 PM. Now let’s get some real tests of the Zelenko Protocol.
Many white people including many in the media and academia aren’t able to distinguish or consistently blur the line between thugs and black people. For all their “woke” talk, they’re the ones who consider people with dark skin less than fully human, from low expectations to thinking thugs have a “right” to riot. I watched this idiot reporter interviewing black demonstrators feeling so good about herself for being so progressive with NO CLUE how much most black people hate being told they’re “WELL SPOKEN” after they make a coherent point. Yes. Black people are from the min ha’medaber. Their speech usually correlates with their level of education. My black neighbor does not go to the demonstrations. As it was in 1979, 1991, 1992, Ferguson (I don’t remember the riots of the 1960s) the 2020 riots will hurt good black people more than anyone else. The thugs will go through what they stole and they’ll still be thugs. Finding success in life is hard work for most people. People who want to better their station can. No one can do it for you. People who want to even find a way to turn their lives around in prison. Some people have a head start. Some people get lucky. Some people get what they don’t deserve. But focusing on them doesn’t help. Sometimes it takes more than one generation. Parents sacrifice for their children. In some inner city neighborhoods kids who try to be good get beat up by young bullies and thugs. Riots won’t change that. How about the Ad Council run an unrelenting campaign telling (inner city) kids that it’s okay to be courteous to a police officer. Telling them what they can say to peer-pressure that urges them to risk their lives fighting cops.
So Floyd was positive for coronavirus and in his inebriated state Floyd may have “threatened” the police officers with his infection, which can be why they took him out of the squad car. Then he wouldn’t stay put, and things escalated (contains some not-far-fetched speculation).
100% I don’t think it was ok to kill Floyd. It was wrong. No diukim. The punishment for passing counterfeit twenties and resisting arrest, is not death by cop. But I don’t hold from glorifying Floyd as if he was some upstanding guy. I don’t see one good thing about Floyd and I really I don’t feel bad that he’s gone. He won’t be able to rob anyone else at gunpoint or pass bogus money. He was and remained a thug until his bitter end.
Nah.. not good enough.
I’m just speaking in theory. (If this was someone independent/credible doing the testing.
If someone has no anti-bodies (which I understand to mean they did not have the coronavirus) but Dr. Zelenko gave them his protocol (just in case) wouldn’t the percentage of those people who were or weren’t damaged tell us something about the safety of the protocol?
And also wouldn’t those who have the antibodies (meaning they had the virus) who got the treatment early and it didn’t progress, tell us something about the protocol’s efficacy? I’m just asking theory. Not suggesting we should accept Zelenko’s protocol in actuality based on this study.
Floyd was an unrepentant criminal who was committing crime up until 20 minutes before his death. Even with his dying breath he expressed no remorse for his life of crime. He should not be extolled as a hero, painted on murals as if he were a role model. He died on illegal street drugs during an episode of resisting arrest. The cops did not drag an upstanding citizen with dark skin (of which there are many) away from his productive life and “strangle” him. And what happened to statistics regarding resisting arrest and poor outcome. Isn’t picking “anecdotes” a way to get bad information?
Since I moved out of Crown Heights after our experience with “peaceful protests” of 1991, sorry if I seem insensitive to anyone on this subject.
If Dr. Zelenko’s patients were tested for anti-bodies to see how many of his patients actually had Covid, would that scientifically impact the significance of his treatment?
Also if his patients were examined for (lasting) side effects caused by HCQ-Zinc treatment would that scientifically tell us anything about the potential harm / safety of the protocol? Especially if it was given to non-ill patients?“There was never a possibility of making it go away by staying home”?
– Yes. Flatten the curve always meant stagger the rate of infection so that the hospitals and their staff don’t get overwhelmed.
And need to open back up to save the economy (and other health problems caused by extended lock down) says nothing about the terrible tzar people might endure until death when catching covid due to opening things back up.(Unless they prove or decide to accept and make available the Zelenko Protocol which Dr. Zelenko very much still insists works and apparently the President of the United States believes and is on himself, or they come up with something better.)
If memory serves, TYW resident anti-vaxxers (nebach) already started declaring their opposition.