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kavod, do you suggest we should or shouldnt respect yeshiva guys that smoke? Please explain your reason.
OfcourseMemberkavod, Yeshiva Bochrim who make a Kiddush Hashem and put into practice what they learn and try to emulate Gedolim ARE respected.
February 3, 2011 12:52 am at 12:52 am in reply to: How can we encourage more people to become active Shadchanim? #736727OfcourseMemberMost people I know wouldnt dirty themselves to red Shidduchim even if offered money per date. They’re scared of the consequences or have a million excuses. We’ve got to get more creative.
OfcourseMemberIf you heard the desparation of some of the singles and parents who I speak to, I think they’d gladly part with some Alexes, Benjys and Andys for even a date. But getting two sides to agree on a date these days, is harder than shoveling A BLOCK FULL OF SNOW! It’s blood sweat and tears.
Thats why so few want to even try.
February 2, 2011 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm in reply to: How can we encourage more people to become active Shadchanim? #736718OfcourseMemberSheesh, I havent asked for possible cures for the big C, lo aleinu.
Is everyone equally stumped?
OfcourseMemberFunny. How about Alex and Benjy and friends? Are they all gonna keep Andy warm and cozy?
OfcourseMemberSac, who’s Andy?
OfcourseMemberInterestingly, most of the really busy dyed in the wool Bikur Cholim volunteers I know, are Askonim’s wives who purposely stay away from redding Shidduchim, for fear of alienating people.
They are people pleasers and want to remain that way.
OfcourseMemberI think part of the problem aggravating the Shidduch crisis is our attitude that those who choose to be Shadchanim should consider it a Chesed just as if they were Bikur Cholim volunteers. Perhaps one of the differences is that Bikur Cholim and similar volunteers, dont enter into it with any thought of payback from humans. Most Shadchanim do. I think, on the whole, Bikur Cholim volunteers, and similar, are a more noble bunch.
Now how do we get Bikur Cholim volunteer types to be involved in Shidduchim??? To my knowlege, there are none who do both, possibly because they require different personality types.
February 2, 2011 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm in reply to: Amazing story with a well known Rosh Yeshiva! #824214OfcourseMemberIDK, IMHO if the story did indeed happen, it would have made its rounds, complete with the name of the Yeshiva/ Rosh Yeshiva, possibly with some juice added along the way, to make it more exciting.
OfcourseMemberCan someone suggest how I might have communicated the R’ Avigdor Miller idea of apples/seeds and had the post remain (seems the fact that it led to a video clip was problematic)?
OfcourseMemberapy, “I guess that is a risk they were willing to take”
Then it wasnt that outrageous of them. I still dont buy it though. Maybe the 2 guys werent their idea of perfect Shiduchim, (who is?) but NO parents want their daughter going out with a guy who they have ZERO interest in.
OfcourseMemberapushatayid, possibly the parents were embarassed by and covering up for her extreme reticence. I cant believe any sane parents would allow their daughter to go out with any guy they had zero interest in. What if they would have liked one another? Could have happened, you know.
OfcourseMemberapushatayid, big deal! A quiet or nervous beginner at dating. Could be a lot worse, as in evidence above. Unless Im missing something, that is.
OfcourseMemberAnyone else here for allowing this thread to remain untouched?
OfcourseMembertbt, what good can it do for you to analyze my post?
Unfortunately, at the time, it caused anguish and heartache to those involved, because the girl refused to date for quite a bit of time!
OfcourseMembertbt, the girl forgot about it long ago, but I as an analytical adult wonder what kind of husband he’ll make. Shoot me, but his behavior was rather unique.
OfcourseMemberThis happened on a date of a female relative:
Guy talked on his cellphone during date, ranked out Lakewood Roshei Yeshiva, said money makes the world go round and how everyone is in love with money, talked about fantasizing he’s on a beach and his desire to go to Florida in middle of the zman, left to watch a ball game in middle of date… What a sweetie, he’s a Chassan now.
OfcourseMemberBe Happy, you seem to know the field, can you recommend a dvd, cd or audiobook on laughter therapy?
OfcourseMembertwisted, R’ Blumenkrantz a”h was a BAKI on all the ingredients found in make-up, and if he would have felt it was that dangerous, I think he would have let us women know.
OfcourseMemberAnyone know of a good laughter therapy DVD or CD or Audiobook? Theres lots of Laughter Yoga on youtube, but I think Id like laughter without the Yoga.
January 31, 2011 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm in reply to: Of your Shidduch related decisions what would you change if you could #735782OfcourseMemberHealth, when 2 people divorce, wouldnt BOTH parties feel the other abused them in some way, (whether real or imagined)?
Being middle aged and having heard and seen a lot, I think, in their heart of hearts, even relatively happily married people have some grievance against their spouse that often involves some kind of abuse, kal v chomer divorced couples. I think many relatively happily married people have an “if only he/she” that’s very painful, but live with it because they know life isnt perfect, and the good outweighs the bad.
OfcourseMembermike, many people search the latest Simchas on Onlysimchas, and many come from the YU/Sterns crowd and more to the left as well. They have no problem at all with Facebook. Even the Brooklyn-type Modern Yeshivish crowd (mostly the girls) are on Facebook these days.
January 31, 2011 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm in reply to: Of your Shidduch related decisions what would you change if you could #735778OfcourseMemberaries2756, how right you are!
January 31, 2011 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm in reply to: Of your Shidduch related decisions what would you change if you could #735776OfcourseMemberI think sometimes people jump into Shidduchim even when they dont feel right about it, because they get red too few Shidduchim, because there are no real Shadchanim who serve the masses. Most professional Shadchanim most often busy themselves with the very young, the very top and the very rich, who they feel they can sell easiest.
January 31, 2011 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm in reply to: If you were buying a sheitel now, which would you buy, where and who #733703OfcourseMemberIve heard that Milano isnt as good as it used to be. I’ve heard of 2 places that let you walk away from a Sheitel purchase if you’re not happy- Tori Wigs and Fortune Wigs (Tobias). Ive heard they really try to please. What are everyone’s experiences with those two?
Who would you all use for the cut, when the seller doesnt cut, or you want a great cut? Are the people who charge hundreds for a cut (250-400 for the cut alone!!!)worth it? Ive heard many say yes, that the cut is as important as the quality of the Sheitel and they’d pay hundreds again to cut a new sheitel.
OfcourseMember1- Which liquid foundation for dry skin, is the best? Fragrance free preferred.
2- Who does a good make-up consultation for a teen, just learning for the first time, in BP/Flatbush?
January 31, 2011 12:49 am at 12:49 am in reply to: Of your Shidduch related decisions what would you change if you could #735769OfcourseMemberbe good, you must be one of my good friends or their children! I’m middle aged, and I hear EXACTLY that from people in MY generation and their children!!! I cant believe someone else wrote that. You sound like me talking.
January 31, 2011 12:08 am at 12:08 am in reply to: Of your Shidduch related decisions what would you change if you could #735766OfcourseMemberHealth, ” Don’t trust anyone and I’m not being paranoid; and this includes your own family members.”
If you cant trust relatives, who can you trust? Youth is wasted on the young. Sadly, too often in youth, you cant trust yourself. Personally, I had seriously bad judgement, because when you’re young, many think- what will my friends say about my Chasan/Kallah.
B”H at some point I took advice from my parents. They knew me better than I knew myself.
OfcourseMemberchayav, we have no control over how people are dressed on the street, in most neighborhoods. Also, modesty means lots of different things to different people.
OfcourseMemberWalking on the street is Lifnei Iver too.
OfcourseMemberchayav, do you really think Onlysimchas will prohibit pictures from now on?
January 28, 2011 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm in reply to: If you would have been as knowledgable as you are now, #733185OfcourseMembermike, you know what I mean. I mean changing a decision that at the time WAS within your control/ability.
January 28, 2011 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm in reply to: If you would have been as knowledgable as you are now, #733182OfcourseMemberalways, nice to be Sameach B Chelko, but I dont buy that you wouldnt have done as tleast ONE thing of major importance differently.
mike, same for you. Choosing the right numbers isnt in our control, in the slightest. Thats not a regret. Im sure there’s something though.
January 28, 2011 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm in reply to: If you would have been as knowledgable as you are now, #733179OfcourseMemberTrust me, Im not thinking regrets 24/7. Thats foolish and destructive. I think learning from past mistakes, and utilizing it for positive, is valuable. Never mind that it helps others who are possibly younger and less mature.
OfcourseMembertruth be told, girls barely get dates as they age. Its different.
January 28, 2011 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm in reply to: Of your Shidduch related decisions what would you change if you could #735752OfcourseMemberId have listened to my parents more. In the end, When I did listen, I made the right decisions, b”H.
January 28, 2011 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm in reply to: If you would have been as knowledgable as you are now, #733177OfcourseMemberId have focused on career/education more and less on things that you dont remember or gain from, years later.
Id have spent more time with my parents, but that wouldnt have been easy bec the children were younger.
OfcourseMembereclipse, “That person’s “needs” will now include many more physical requirements”
100%! I couldnt agree with you more!
There are also the guys who dont have “previous exposure” and compare their dates to friends’ Kallahs (physically and otherwise). The older they are, the more Kallahs they’ve seen to compare their dates to. Either way, the longer they date, and the older they are, the harder it is. Although Ive seen cases where guys suddenly woke up after years of crazy fussiness, and said the next normal girl I date is the “one” and got married.
OfcourseMemberbochur24, “I cried sometimes because they were painful for me to do but I did them because it made the other person happy”.
Why would your crying make someone happy? Why is crying doing something for the other person? Youre releasing steam/relieving your own stress, when you cry.
Am I missing something folks?
OfcourseMemberBut then when people get divorced, they often say, one of the two was coaxed. Although Im not sure the couples where one was coaxed do any worse than couples who neither was coaxed.
OfcourseMemberSo whats everyone’s opinion of daters who go out with 100- 200 people and say “I just didnt feel anything”, or “I dont think its for me” and cant really put out a solid reason”? What would a Gadol tell a person like that? Would a Gadol say- “Wait when the right one will come along, and then you’ll know”?
I know R’ Frand was asked this question by a guy dating a girl. The boy just couldnt commit even though he didnt know the reason why (the boy couldnt find anything negative about the girl). R’ Frand answered “If you want to hear bells, go to a church”. The guy got married to the girl and is very happy.
OfcourseMemberdeiyezooger, get a life???
Tsk Tsk, is the Torah, or part of it, not similarly choshuv to a picture of a Basar Vdom, even a Gadol?
OfcourseMemberOr a realization that he may be vulgar.
OfcourseMemberWe can only guess the reasons.
Theres more of everything bad unfortunately…. cancer,heart disease, young deaths, divorce, selfishness, assorted scandals, … But there’s more positive than we’ve ever had, as well, more Torah Lishma, chesed, kiruv, selflessness, bravery, etc in the frum community as well. We’re a bigger community than we’ve ever been…
OfcourseMembert b, who says there are so many? How many are there a year relative to couples who get married per year?
OfcourseMemberGoq, Y W! I like it so much Im thinking of framing it and hanging it up in my living room. Or is that overdoing it?
OfcourseMemberI thought all angles of Chulent were already discussed on many threads.
No intellectual threads allowed?
OfcourseMemberjs, SHOMER SHMOMER, whatever name you give it, is immaterial! If they’re touching, they’re not frum, if they’re not frum, they touch! Whats to discuss?
OfcourseMemberjs, “The issue I have is that most people seem to be kofuy tovah to the RSO and the are touching their kalla. If this is in public imagine in private. VHMY”
I have never seen one frum couple touching! Obviously if they’re touching theyre NOT Shomer and are in a different category frumkeit-wise!
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