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Quark: Oh? I didn’t know Satmar represents the Torah. The tragedies probably struck because most frum Satmars don’t watch movies, huh?
What’s troubling you, my friend? Do you perhaps feel a bit guilty? Don’t you worry. Just get back to your movies and hide your head in the sand.
observanteenMemberAYC: *LIKE*
July 26, 2011 4:12 am at 4:12 am in reply to: Do I tell the parents about kids being mechalal Shabbos??? #790540observanteenMemberWow, Still Looking. That’s amazing. I too, have father who’s pretty overbearing and at times, it’s tough. I did struggle with my Yiddishkeit for a while, but B”H, I didn’t show it outwardly and I’m now stable and love AND fear Hashem.
Thanks for the chizzuk! It’s nice knowing there are other people out there who know what it’s like…:)
observanteenMemberThis girl doesn’t discuss any of this anymore, and is still friendly with me. I’m not sure whether or not she did something about it. I don’t want to be overbearing, and besides, I’m busy with my private life.Is there still anything I should do?
(BTW, I e-mailed Rabbi Wallerstien on Thurs. night and never got a reply…Is this usual?)
observanteenMemberI’m actually getting married three days before I turn 19. This is not about getting married early though. It’s just that I’ve reached a point where I felt I was prepared to take this huge and exciting step. Also, I’ve had a pretty tough year which was a real growth experience. Nisyonos makes you more mature and grown-up.
observanteenMemberMy friend suffers from an ED. It’s so frightening, since I know I can’t do anything to help her. I was advised not to mention anything about food, diet, weight etc. etc. Boy, it’s just terrible to watch her starving herself. Hope she’ll get better soon.
blabla and happiest: Hope you get over it soon. Don’t despair. Hashem’s holding your hand throughout this difficult situation. Good luck and refuah sheleima!
observanteenMembermommamia: I’m all of 18, and I don’t think I am capable of advising you what to do. IMHO though, I think that if he’s a good, patient, and loving father, he probably is a good person who needs a little guidance. He’s probably not stable and still struggling with some unfinished issues of his first marriage. Perhaps you need to involve a third party (NOT your best friend. Go to a proffesional.). Try going for help. I highly doubt he’s presently enjoying the relationship as is. Maybe he’s willing to make it work. Talk to him. After all, he’s your husband. Put out your cards on the table and ask him what he suggest you do in this situation. Tell him you’re willing to change and make this work, but he has to put in his effort too.
This is just my very humble opinion based on what you said. I think that aside from getting the opinions of anonymous posters on here you should seek advice from a Daas Torah. Especially since you mentioned he’s struggling with Yiddishkeit as well. Hatzlacha rabba.
observanteenMemberThanks, bagel boy and fix-it-up.
Adorable, thanks loads. I greatly appreciate it.
observanteenMemberadorable: Thanks. I tried calling him but he didn’t answer the phone. I left a message, but I guess e-mailing him is a better idea.
Mods, can you please contact adorable and send the info to me? Thanks.
observanteenMemberThank you kapusta and adorable.
I’ve been advised by someone I trust that I speak to her. I did today. Looks like my words had an impact on her (she was unusually quiet the rest of the day). I am friendly with her since the begining of the summer (which is probably why she wanted to discuss this with me and get my att.). I told her I didn’t come to give her mussar but rather warn her as a friend. She seemed to accept what I said (eyes downcast, blushing…). I gave her my phone # and told her she can call anytime she needs some support. I made it clear that I’m willing and ready to help her get over this.
I think I’ll contact Rabbi Wallerstein for guidance. Thanks to all for your advice. Hope things will turn out for the best. Meanwhile, I daven that she should get the courage to do what’s right.
observanteenMemberAnother Name: No, this looks serious. By the look on her face I could tell she wasn’t kidding (I wish she were!).
observanteenMemberThanks WIY. I think you’re right. I’ll ask someone I trust what to do about this (as soon as I’m done on here) .
observanteenMemberThanks to all who replied.
It’s a day camp. There isn’t really anyone who’s qualified to reach out to her. Besides, I think she’ll be upset I went to anyone to “masser” and I’ll lose her trust in me. I don’t think she really understands the depth of this issue. To her it’s just having some fun. She’s not a bad kid who’s looking to do bad stuff (at least she seems so…). Should I allow life to teach her a lesson? After all, she’ll grow up with time. OTOH, will I be held responsible for allowing this to go on which might have a terrible ending r”l? Should I talk to her? If I do, will she even understand what I’m saying? After all, she’s still a child and acting like one. She might think I’m blowing things out of proportion.
Thanks WIY. Amein.
observanteenMemberIt’s impossible to know for certain whether or not this method actually works. I can’t say I’m not skeptical. But nevertheless, this message is accurate. Let’s face it: it hits the nail on the head. We know it. Why not grab the opportunity to better ourselves?
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observanteenMemberOur family is very warm and we enjoy having lots of guests. What we do is simply seat the women in the kitchen and the men in the dining room.
IMHO, young couples shouldn’t be hosting guests. It’s their time to develop a relationship. I don’t think it’s an aveira, but why wave a red cloth at the bull?
observanteenMemberPrincessEagle: Wow. What an amazing mashal. Thank you very much! I was beside myself after this terrible tragedy…thanks for the chizuk!
Aries and oomis: Your philosophy is flawed. This is not the Emuna we as Yidden should have. HASHEM RUNS THE WORLD. PERIOD. I don’t exactly have the koach nor do I have the time to discuss the basics of Emuna. But your view is certainly incorrect.
Poppa: Thank you.
To all of you who are still bothered by this: I listened to Rabbi Fischel Shechter shlita (on the chazak hotline 356-6665) regarding this issue. He explains everything with great clarity.
observanteenMemberI’ll take 120-139. Besuros tovos.
observanteenMemberI agree with adorable. I also had a hard time listening to my friends’ shallow discussions while making life decisions or going through a “growth experience”. But with time, I came to appreciate my time “off” from thinking so deep (it is draining after all..) and enjoy being shallow for a while:)
Good Luck!
observanteenMember“have an orthodox jewish friend, ideally.
Invite someone over to dinner.
Discuss Torah.
Have programming.
Invite and disperse information.”
A couple of problems:
A – Not everyone is cut out to do kiruv. Some might get influenced by the frei instead of them influencing them to be frum.
B – We have the Internet today. If anybody is looking for answers, they can always do research and they’ll get the right anwers. But going out and try getting frei Yidden to become frum, is a bit extreme IMO. Simply because many of them stay frei and you just made them sin bemeizid (knowing they’re sinning).
If any frei yid or non-Jew would question me about my beliefs, I’d be more than glad to answer them. I think that if anybody is really looking for the truth, they will find it.
observanteenMemberZahavasdad: Sure. But I wouldn’t say it has just as much schmutz as does the secular libraries. I don’t really get the point you’re trying to make.
observanteenMemberRacism? I highly doubt the mods have a clue as to what race you are. They simply censor the comments, which is why I feel safe reading the CR. If you’d like to chat without a filter there’s always Facebook out there.
observanteenMemberMischief: I don’t really have the time right now to debate this issue, but I’d like to make one point clear:
I WAS THERE. I KNOW what it’s like to feel torn, messed up, confused, depressed…I know. And yes, I KNOW and remember and sometimes cry about how difficult and crazy it was. But, nevertheless, it was I who was confused. My parents didn’t do that. I too, played the blame game. I blamed them for ignoring the fact that I was messed up (I never told them anything, of course, but expected them to read my mind), I blamed my teachers for being too shallow…And then I realized that it’s time I look myself in the mirror and say, “You will make some BIG changes in your life right now, because it’s YOU who’s responsible for yourself!” The blaming DOESN’T HELP! It only makes you drown in a sea of self-pity. It was when I hit rock bottom that I shouted to myself, “ENOUGH!!” And guess what?? My anxiety, confusion, problems with Emuna DISSAPPEARED. Baruch Hashem, I’m stable now and truly “observant” and feel prepared to begin building a bayis neeman beyisroel in the near future IY”H (something that seemed impossible a few months ago.)
I wish you and all suffering teens much hatzlacha and siyatta dishmaya.
observanteenMemberhappiest: I agree with you that there’s more abuse than people care to admit or pick up on.
“if the at risk teens situation is so rampant and many many many of these teens had some type of abuse experience (which is why they are at risk) then this problem also has to be rampant, no?”
I don’t entirely agree with this statement, though. EVERYBODY has hardship. On different levels of course. But nobody lives the perfect little life. If I’d need an excuse to go off, I could easily say my father/mother is abusive. Why? Because they’re not perfect. And we expect our parents to be perfect. Yes, they might have accused me falsely for doing something wrong, or yell, or…even spank me (when I was younger of course). The point being, that these kids have issues either emotional or spiritual. The parents aren’t necessarily abusive just because the kids say so. They love blaming the parents, teachers, principals etc. – Anyone but themselves!
OTOH, unfortunately, there ARE some kids who suffer at home and leave Yiddishkeit because of that. Which is terribly sad. But I think that if anybody is earnest and really looks for the truth they’ll find it.
observanteenMemberThank you, once again to all who wished me mazel tov and to your brachos – amein to all of them!
Ahuva: That’s great. I’m truly happy for you. I hope history will repeat itself with my friend.
MiddlePath: Brilliantly put. I wish others were as sensitive and insightful as you are. Thanks!
Doctor: You’re right. There’s no such thing as second rate.
L613: Thank you. I think it depends on the maturity level of the kallah. In fact, I think tznius is common sense rather than halacha. I don’t like discussing my chosson, but I enjoy discussing the family, how the shidduch came about, presents..etc. But I’ll try being careful with that too since it might make others jealous.
observanteenMemberThanks to all who wished me mazal tov and for your advice.
Ahuva and MiddlePath: I totally agree with you. That’s precisely why it pains me. She’s a great girl and a good friend. Therefore, I’m concerned and feel bad for her. I hope and daven that she get a good boy from a good family. But bederech hateva she’ll have a hard time (I hope, hope not!). Unfortunately, people tend to take girls from “better” homes (although you can never know what’s going on behind closed doors). You mentioned you come from a home with divorced parents. Unfortunately, she has more odds against her than “just” that.
observanteenMemberhappiest: Good advice. Thanks! I felt so awkward discussing it with her sitting there…
bpt: No, she’s not second rate. But reality is that people won’t marry those who aren’t on their level (in society, learning..etc.).
adorable: I think it’s cheap to discuss every detail. (For ex. my friend who’s engaged told me that her chosson brushes his teeth twice a day so he’s neat and clean…sick!) But I still want to share my simcha with my friends…I hope I’m not annoying! (I stop when they look bored:))
observanteenMemberThank you once again to all who wished me mazel tov. It means a lot to me!
Adorable and mytake: Welcome back! I really missed your posts.
Minyan gal: We’re both very young (18) so the wedding is in February IY”H. You’re all invited, of course! (although I doubt the wedding hall is that big…:))
observanteenMemberWow! I didn’t expect this! Thanks SOOO much everyone!
Thanks to you all for your amazing brachos. I truly appreciate your heartfelt wishes!
yummy: no, I’m not from Canada…Sorry!
Princess: You made me blush..Thanks!
tomim: Amein!:)
observanteenMemberThank you Yossi Z.! Amein!!
observanteenMemberThanks tons folks!
gefen: I won’t have the time to post as much as I used to but I’ll visit pretty often.:)
YummyCupcake: Nope, sorry. But thanks anyway!
mscritique zees and apy: Thank you very much!!
observanteenMemberWhy did the nurse wake up the patient?
To give her a sleeping pill.
observanteenMemberYeah, I feel the same. I really miss your sensible comments. Hope to see you around soon!
observanteenMemberMr. Moderator: Tear that subtitle down!
observanteenMembergiggle girl: Perhaps “rolling in peels of laughter”? (I think the mod who usually does “night shift” likes to hand out subtitles…who knows? Maybe you’ll get it now! Good luck!)
observanteenMember“ive got a few minutes to post”
“and why did you capitalize the s in serious?”
Well, 80 seems like you have an awful lot of time since you scrutinize every letter on the cr;) (Do you at least moderate while you’re at it?:)
observanteenMemberlol goldie… BTW, I don’t think you should beg for a subtitle. Look at what happened to Kshmo:) (talking from personal exerience!)
observanteenMemberLife is full of ups and downs. It’s hard dealing with the down moments, but try getting over it. Don’t let it scare you. Go out with friends, write, listen to music, go shopping etc. Good luck! Hope you feel better soon!
observanteenMemberTznius is a sensitivity. The torah hasn’t clearly written out “Don’t wear too much makeup” or “the shaitel and/or hair can’t be longer than X”. All it says is, Tehei isha tznua. You can’t always prove with the shulchan aruch that this particular code of dress isn’t tznius. We – girls and women have to use our sensitivity and think what it looks like when we walk the streets when we look to kill even if we aren’t oiver on halacha.
observanteenMemberI read and reread the comments my teachers wrote. Teachers out there: know that it means the world to your student when they know you’re proud or think highly of them! Also please make sure the compliment is true. Don’t write the kid’s responsible when they’re not. Don’t shower too many compliments, it loses its value. Always start with something positive and go on to the criticism.
Oh and btw, I always appreciated the time and effort the teachers put into those comments. So if any of you ever were or currently are my teacher: thank you! And to all the teachers out there who’re working hard: Good luck.
observanteenMemberWow happiest, that’s terrific!! SOOOO happpy to hear that! And thanks so much for keeping us posted. I still daven for you and hope you’ll find your zivug REAL soon. As usual, I’m humbled by your amazingly strong and noble character. So glad to hear you’re getting off some meds. Really, this is some GREAT news!!! Thanks tons for sharing it with us!!! Hope you’ll share even BETTER news in the very near future….:) (I envy the lucky guy:))
Hope to see you around more often. I love reading your posts.
Good luck and take care!
observanteenMemberYeah, adorable we miss you in here! I noticed you were missing…Any mazal tov? Please keep us posted!:)
observanteenMemberblabla: Why are you anti social? I mean, you don’t have to love everyone, but hate them? Is it because you don’t trust them? Personally, I’ve had many people who betrayed me and for a while I didn’t trust anyone. That in itself was depressing! Once I got to open my eyes and take a true look at humanity, I realized that most people are nice, pleasant and enjoyable. Miraculously, once I joined in social company, my anxiety slowly faded and eventually disappeared! I think you should try going out and break your social fear.
Anyway, I think we should continue our conversation on another thread cuz I’m afraid dancinggirl isn’t too thrilled to have us discuss this here:)
observanteenMemberSmile E. Face: I got the chills while reading your post. May she have a refuah sheleima soon.
blabla: I find that if I have too much time for myself, I think wayy too much which makes me antsy and anxious. Perhaps you can busy yourself with doing housework, chessed (help out a neighbor,cousin with little kids etc.), cleaning, baking etc.
observanteenMemberbpt: Yeah, I know:) B”H, I think they’re great.
Mazal Tov Smile E. Face!
observanteenMemberThanks, candy. Congrats to you too! (Taking grad pics tomorrow…exciting!)
observanteenMemberblabla: Looks like you’re going through a lot. Your writing is beautiful and sad. One sentence bothered me though: “I’ve got no talent for writing”. Totally untrue. Why do you view yourself as somebody who’s got no talent when you jut proved you do! Also, please try writing some cheerful poems. It might help you ease your pain. I hope things get better for you soon. Good Shabbos!
observanteenMembercshapiro: Even if he’s not a football player?
observanteenMemberPerson3: Thanks. Sorry, just saw your comment now while looking for an old thread. Welcome to the CR! (are you new? Seems to be an awful lot of new posters lately.) Hope to see you around more often!
observanteenMemberMazel Tov nystatetrooper.
Toi: BIG Mazel Tove to you!!? (Hope you were serious) May you have a wonderful and happy life!
And welcome to the CR you two! (or are you old members with new SN?? In any case, welcome!!)
Thanks DY for clarifying. I couldn’t tell.
observanteenMemberoomis: Thank you. Good advice.
shlishi: I didn’t write “‘hoping’ to pull the skirt”. I pull them. And I don’t forget, because tznius is a part of me B”H.
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