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October 22, 2009 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665226NY MomMembermybat: A baby carrier should really be a must for anyone with a toddler and a newborn. I have a babyBjorn, and I couldn’t have managed without it when my oldest ones were little. Whether your toddler is happy to have a new baby to “play” with or to “love” (too much of that kind of playing/loving, your newborn can do without!) or is outright jealous and aggressive towards your little one, a baby carrier can literally be a lifesaver.
It gives comfort to the baby because he/she is snuggled up to Mommy, and keeps the baby safe from being harmed by big brother/sister.
The only thing is that it limits Mommy’s activities when the baby is being carried this way. You can’t just bend over to pick up things, etc.
I have never found it to be a problem re: tznius. You just have to adjust your clothes in front of a mirror after you put it on, to make sure that your top is laying the right way and not being pulled improperly one way or another. Then everything stays in place after that.
I googled the Ergo, and it looks a little bulky and pricey. I have the babyBjorn original and I was always happy with it.
NY MomMembersunflower: Tamazaball said, “im (I’m) from mexico”. This was mentioned in a different thread (Divorced parents), and if you click on the blue word “Member” under her name, she wrote this in her profile.
NY MomMemberpookie: The Yankees are winning the playoffs, right now. They haven’t made it to the World Series, yet. All they need is to win one more game, and they’re in.
NY MomMemberAs a mother, I would like to admit that last year, it was my fault that the Yankees did not make it to the post-season. Due to the fact that I have sons who have a healthy interest in baseball, I felt that it would affect their learning due to a lack of sleep, listening to all those late-night games.
So, I did it. I put the whammy on the Yankees last year.
I said, several times, out loud, with the heartfelt words of a mother’s tefillah: “The Yankees should XXXX!” (I won’t say it, but it’s a four letter word meaning “to be defeated”).
But I made a deal with my sons this year. If they would get to sleep at a reasonable hour, even with an important game on the radio, I would refrain from doing so this year. Obviously, they agreed.
So…the Yankees are doing pretty well this year, aren’t they?!
October 22, 2009 1:29 am at 1:29 am in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665219NY MomMemberBut then, what happened to what I learned in my very religious HS? So, I spoke to my LOR and he explained to me that there is Das Moshe and also something called Das Yehudis. And re: covering hair, it is more like the d’rabanan aspect of the mitzvah. As a moshol, in kashrus we don’t eat milk and meat together, but the rabbonim also added fowl to the restriction. Das Moshe is d’Oraisah and may have a more basic requirement, which is extended by Das Yehudis.
Bottom line, SJS, other than checking with your medical doctor about the headaches that you get when wearing any type of head covering, maybe it would be a good idea for you to check with your Rav, as there may be room to be maykil with a medical condition.
Also, I want to re-post a question that I asked above, but may have gotten overlooked due to lag in mod post approval:
oomis1105 & everyone: Something wrong with actually using the word “Tznius”? Too nerdy? Too goody-goody sounding? Too holier-than-thou?
I’m not being sarcastic. I really want to know. What’s wrong with using the word tznius?
NY MomMembersunflower: Someone did answer your question, see above. Maybe your posts crossed due to lag in mod update time.
NY MomMemberSmile_its_EZ: But are you smiling all the time? Or like neatfreak, it’s just the opposite?
October 21, 2009 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665202NY MomMemberoomis1105 & everyone: Something wrong with actually using the word “Tznius”? Too nerdy? Too goody-goody sounding? Too holier-than-thou?
I’m not being sarcastic. I really want to know. What’s wrong with using the word tznius?
NY MomMemberYou can do a Mexican theme and then mybat, mazca, and tamazaball could give you ideas for different authentic Mexican foods. Or you can go with “fake” Mexican food and have “make your own tacos” putting out the meat, vegetables, re-fried beans, guacamole, etc.
You can also have chips and salsa – mild, medium, hot – to taste.
Etc.
October 21, 2009 1:36 am at 1:36 am in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665199NY MomMemberOr maybe, if people think this is a good idea, we can make up a little poem or something and print it on cards and hand it out. Something like:
Roses are red
My money is green
If you don’t have tznius clothing
In your store I won’t be seen!
Or how about:
I’ve been looking for an outfit,
So far I have no luck,
Your clothing is not tznius,
Too bad, you lost a buck!
Obviously I’m joking around a little now, but you get the idea! How do we let the store owners know they are losing out on a lot of business?
NY MomMemberAs long as people think that it is “cool” and want to try it, it won’t stop. My husband and I have tried to instill a certain amount of disgust towards smoking in our children. (I didn’t say “smokers”.) We make sure they know our feelings about it and we reinforce this repeatedly.
October 20, 2009 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665194NY MomMemberThank you, Best Ima. It is a very moving story.
Re: Is there any way realisticly that we can get the message to the frum shop-owners that they should start bringing in FRUM clothing to FRUM stores??
I really think if we all said something to the store owners or salespeople, this would help them understand. Especially, if we make it perfectly clear like, “I came in with cash, ready to spend, but I’m walking out empty-handed. You have nothing appropriate for a my daughters/myself. I am really disappointed with the level of tznius.” Or however you want to say it. (If you don’t like the way this sounds, maybe someone creative can come up with a phrase that sounds better!) The owners are the ones who buy the new clothes every season, anticipating sales! They might change if they think it is hurting their bottom line.
What do you say everyone? Can we do it?
NY MomMemberYou know it’s interesting, but I have often seen that what a person may complain about in their spouse, is often something that was first attractive to the person in the first place.
For example, While dating: I just love his sense of humor! He is always making jokes and making me laugh! Same couple, married: He can never be serious!
While dating: I love the fact that she is always dressed well with attention to every detail! Same couple, married: She is always shopping for clothes, spending so much money! We can never get out on time because she takes so much time with her getting ready!
Try to project the ramifications of a middah or personality trait, and gauge whether this is something that you can live with in a marriage! If you are married already, try to remember that that was something you knew about the other person, and try to be understanding about it.
NY MomMemberIn my opinion, people are very much influenced by what they see in society. The goyishe influences have seeped into our homes, unfortunately. People think that marriage is about being in love all the time, and if they don’t feel that way, then something is wrong.
They don’t know the Torah perspective is to be giving to each other, and to do this it takes a lot of work. It’s not about what the other person can do for me or how the other person makes me feel. It’s about what can I do to help my spouse and make him/her happy. If you both think this way, then you can make a marriage work.
NY MomMemberlakewoodwife: Thanks for getting us back on topic!
Also, just wanted to post some more safety tips. Here are some safety tips for the home and specifically for the bathroom, which has many potential dangers:
* Even if you could manage to secure all the medicines, soaps, shampoos, nail clippers, hair dryers, scissors, and tweezers, the basic materials and equipment that constitute the bathroom would still represent an unacceptable level of danger to infants and toddlers. There simply are too many slippery surfaces, hard tiles, hot water faucets, and water receptacles. Supervise your children in the bathroom!
* To prevent children from accidentally locking themselves in the bathroom, make sure the door has no fastening — like an inside bolt — that cannot be opened from the outside. You may also remove the lock and instruct everyone in the family to knock when the door is closed.
* Face your child toward the hot-water faucet in the bathtub to prevent accidentally bumping into the hot metal.
* If your small child can’t distinguish or remember to stay away from the hot-water tap, make it easier by marking it with red tape.
* Keep electrical appliances, such as shavers, hair dryers, and toothbrushes, away from small children. Teach older children the danger of using such appliances near water or with wet hands.
(Adapted from Howstuffworks.com child safety tips)
NY MomMemberHi hud! Welcome to the CR and enjoy!
So you posted in the screen names thread. Care to share why you chose your SN?
NY MomMembertamazaball: You’re welcome, and I hope it all turns out well. And Happy Birthday to your daughter! Have a lot of nachas!
NY MomMemberBemused: Listen, I am not saying that there is no difference between friendly and flirting. Yes, there are times when friendly can become flirting. And of course that kind of behavior is inappropriate and dangerous. But you are saying that people in the CR are crossing the line. All I am saying is that I have not seen that here in the CR myself. And apparently there are other people, like haifagirl, who agree with me.
I don’t engage in the real-life scenarios which you have described above. And my husband and I do not go out with other couples. But then again, if my husband has a friend over, I will speak to him. And I may even make a joke. I just make sure that I never get even close to the line, let alone cross over it. I make sure never to give anyone the wrong impression.
A lot of people make this mistake, and think the internet gives carte blanche for all things considered highly inappropriate for their own everyday behavior, so long at it is “anonymous”. As long as someone has identified themselves by gender (sorry haifagirl :)) either through screen name or through blog content, the scenario is not far from the one I painted in your kitchen. There are real live people behind each screen name.
There is a some comparison, but the CR is so far removed from what you are describing! You can’t make eye contact with a person. You can’t smile at another person. You can’t see the other person. You have no idea what the other person looks like or even if the other person is really female or male. The CR is just words on a computer screen. There is no way to even get into contact with another person outside of the computer screen even if you wanted to. That is what the moderation is all about!
If you feel that there has been a breach of tznius here in the CR, then you should point it out to the moderators or the editor. Bring the specific instance and participators to their attention in an email.
For my own personal clarification, I will have to ask my Rav about this one.
NY MomMemberMezonos Maven: Are you saying that some people in the CR have an inappropriate relationship?
I’m going to have to ask my Rav about this one.
NY MomMemberCertain expressions have definite connotations. But other things you can read connotations into it, which the writer may not actually have had in mind.
NY MomMemberWell, then maybe I am just more naive then you are.
Or maybe you are just more skeptical than I am.
Just realize that there is more than one way to interpret something and your interpretation may not be The Truth.
NY MomMemberSo what are you saying? People are not allowed to make a joke to a member of the opposite gender? It is not tznius to make a joke? To make someone else smile?
Well, now I know you are wrong! Because I have interacted with different respected Rabbonim and they actually said something in jest to me! Yes, they said something jokingly to me! And I never, in my wildest imagination thought that they were flirting with me! Imagine that! One Rav is actually almost 80 years old and he said something funny and I laughed.
I guess it is all in the way you interpret the situation.
October 19, 2009 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665173NY MomMemberNo, I am not “perfect in the area of tznius”!
Actually, sometimes I feel a little plain or unfashionable, because I just don’t wear the “latest” styles. But the newest styles don’t really look good to me! I couldn’t bring myself to wear some of the newest styles and not feel ridiculous.
Maybe an idea for you would be to shop for an outfit in a regular size, and then have it taken in professionally. It would add to the cost of the clothes, but the length would not be a problem and it would be literally “custom fit” for you.
NY MomMembertruthsharer: NY Mom, there has been flirting going on, people don’t realize it when they post
I am a little unclear about what you are saying. What don’t they realize? They don’t realize that they are flirting? Maybe you’re just confusing joking with flirting.
The definition of flirting in this context according to dictionary.com:
I have read nothing which would apply to this definition.
The definition of joking:
“joke – to speak or act in a playful or merry way -OR- to say something in fun or teasing rather than in earnest; be facetious”
You’re misinterpreting comments/posts. Joking is not flirting.
October 19, 2009 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665171NY MomMemberI agree with you that there is definitely a problem with the availability of fashionable unquestionably tznius outfits. I try only to shop in frum stores, and often I am only wasting my time. Some of the really trendy frum stores have literally nothing to offer me! And in one store, where I do find acceptable clothes, I once told the saleswoman that the outfit I was trying on was unacceptable, because if I raised my arm or even stretched a little, it was revealing, and she just brushed it off.
But I think that there is a reason why these stores carry those kind of clothes. People are buying them! If we all really decided to just NOT buy the questionable clothing that they are offering, it would send the store owners a message! They buy what they think will sell.
I usually say nothing to the store owner, I just walk out without purchasing anything. But maybe if we all just said in a nice way, “Oh well! I really needed a new outfit, but I just can’t find anything that is long enough/not too tight/OK in the tznius dept./appropriate tznius-wise”, whatever…I think if the store owners hear that enough, they would begin to buy more appropriate styles.
Do people really pass comments to you? I am seriously surprised. How do they let you know? I can’t imagine ever saying something, even if I feel what a woman is wearing is inappropriate.
NY MomMemberMezonos Maven: I have only been a member for a relatively short time, but I want to say, for the record, that I have never read anything inappropriate in regards to tznius from a mod. And again, for the most part, I cannot tell who is female and who is male amongst the mods. They are many times humorous, sometimes sarcastic, but professional, and I think that you are reading into things.
October 19, 2009 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm in reply to: Why is the White House Still Attacking Fox News? #662892NY MomMemberAs the article says, it is already backfiring on them. Good! Let them keep attacking Fox, so even more people will tune in and hear the truth about this administration.
NY MomMemberDoes anyone know anything about Bill Thompson other than he’s comptroller and what Bloomberg is advertising about him?
I once heard Zev Brenner on the radio interviewing Thompson’s father. He seemed like a friend to the Jewish community, but that is the extent to which I know about Bill Thompson.
October 19, 2009 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665168NY MomMemberOne other thought about buying stockings: Please be aware of the not-tznius pictures on the packaging. I keep my unopened packages in a bag in the drawer, then when I open them up I make sure to dispose of the packaging in a way that my husband or boys wouldn’t be able to see it, even if they went to the garbage can to throw something away.
Why put an unintentional stumbling block before them?
October 19, 2009 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665167NY MomMemberI heard that there was an asifa in Lakewood for women about tznius a while back, and one of the messages was that if you are wear flesh colored pantyhose, then it needs to be of a color that it’s obvious you are wearing stockings – not a color which is so close to skin tone that it is hard to tell.
I even heard that the next day the stores were overwhelmed and didn’t have enough pantyhose in stock for everyone who was coming in for the ‘proper’ color stockings.
Anyone from Lakewood know if this is factual? Was there anyone at the asifa?
NY MomMembertamazaball: Why don’t you speak to your father and bring up the topic as if you would like his advice? For example: “Abba, little Rachel’s birthday is coming up, and she has asked me to make her a birthday party. Should I make it for her? If I do, then I think it would only be right to invite you and Ima, but you know…that might be awkward for both of you. What do you think I should do?”
If you present it to him as a dilemma, then he might just suggest one of the solutions recommended above and then there would be no problem! If he doesn’t suggest it himself, it would be a perfect opening for you to throw it out there as an idea that you just thought of. Ex: “Hey! This just occurred to me, etc….Do you think that might be a good idea?”
Hope that helps and welcome to the CR!
NY MomMemberShe will want to know all the basic pertinent information about you. Many people actually have this typed up and are able to hand it, fax it, or email it to whomever they wish. They have begun to refer to this as a shidduch resume. This usually includes name, address and phone #, information regarding education, family, employment, shul affiliations, Rabbis to whom you are connected, and some references – names and telephone #s of people who know you and can vouch for you, your family, and your good character. Oh…and the type of guy you are looking looking for.
I think that covers it. You might want to get this type of info together before the shadchan comes.
Hope that helps! Hatzlacha rabbah and may you find your zivug hagun b’karov.
NY MomMemberICOT: Love it!
My favorites – Abe Lean Con, Ray Gun, and Gumbi.
You are great!
October 19, 2009 12:57 am at 12:57 am in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665164NY MomMemberrivakles: Welcome to the CR and thank you so much for your post!
Yoshi: Thank you for your thoughts. I agree with you that everyone has their own level of tznius, and many of us need to be re-educated on much of the halachos and hashkafos of this very important mitzvah. I just hope everyone will feel comfortable posting their own individual struggles, no matter where on the spectrum they fall.
NY MomMemberhaifagirl: That is a very thought-provoking story. I try to think about this type of thing whenever I say “V’nafshi k’afar lakol tehiyeh” in “Elokai netzor” at the end of shemoneh esrai.
NY MomMemberI have so much respect for Rudy Giuliani.
Aside from the fact that he cleaned up NY and Times Square, and reduced crime enormously, I remember the time that he threw Yasser Arafat out of a concert at the Lincoln Center. He also returned a $10 Million donation to a Saudi prince after 9/11 when the Saudi suggested U.S. policies in the Middle East contributed to the September 11 attacks.
No apologies to dictators as we have seen recently.
NY MomMemberJoseph: Are you suggesting therefore it is okay to allow bribery? If that isn’t what you are suggesting, what was your point about that?
Of course, it is not OK to allow bribery. I was just trying to point out that even something as bad as bribery had its place. The Rabbonim were not against using it for the frum community’s benefit to influence government officials, when govt was corrupt.
Bribery in government is nothing new, and while it is wrong and distasteful, I don’t think that banning campaign contributions will accomplish what you think it will. That’s all.
Are you saying that the Torah’s system of judges will work in a goyishe society? Review the Torah requirements for judges, and tell me if this could ever happen in golus without moshiach.
And shouldn’t we improve the model?
Yes, but it is debatable whether banning campaign contributions would be a better scenario, due to the reasons I and ICOT have outlined above.
NY MomMemberIf what ICOT recommended does not work, I have tried Goo Gone to remove all kinds of sticky difficult to remove substances, though not silly putty specifically.
NY MomMemberJoseph: One of the richest guys in the world is far-left radical, George Soros. Do you think it would be better to have him in a political position over us, rather than someone who accepted campaign contributions from different groups, and which were disclosed to the public?
And what about Pres. Obama, who is beholden to the unions, who helped to get him elected. The outcome of the bankruptcy judgments of the car companies is an example of the “political payback” awarded to the unions. And yet the unions’ influence was achieved legally under campaign finance reform, which limits campaign contributions.
NY MomMemberMezonos Maven: I really don’t know what you are getting at, and unless you can be more specific about what you feel is inappropriate or to which possible pitfall you are referring, I can’t comment further.
BTW, you can always check spelling on dictionary.com.
October 18, 2009 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm in reply to: Tznius Support Group PLEASE WOMEN ONLY, even reading #665154NY MomMemberrwndk1: This does sound confusing to me, as well. All I can say is, I assume they asked their halachic authority regarding this issue, if they have made a specific policy about it.
Whatever answer you received, which you state was not clear, maybe the “head of the seminary” can further clarify to you or to one of your friends, and answer specifically whose psak this is, as you are confused about it – especially considering that your father concurs with you. This, of course, should be done with respect and deference.
If this can not be clarified, I would agree with your father, and not make waves about it, because your motivations may be misconstrued, which would cause you unexpected troubles from the hanhalah.
NY MomMemberJoseph: And yet there are countless stories of when our Rabbonim utilized bribery to influence govt. officials in the past, whether in Europe of the Middle East. Were they incorrect to do so?
This political system isn’t perfect, but it is better than any of the other goyishe models out there, IMO.
NY MomMemberMezonos Maven: That is a question which should be directed to the mods themselves.
But I would say that the mods do a great job, and often, I can not even tell if a mod is male or female, unless they say something which indicates it one way or the other. Also, I have never read anything inappropriate from a mod with regards to male-female interactions.
Over and above that, I can’t really comment further.
NY MomMemberMezonos Maven: I am not sure what you are getting at. Please clarify.
Maybe you misunderstood my meaning. What I meant to say was: The moderators prevent inappropriate posts regarding male-female interaction and inappropriate communication outside the CR. That is the difference between the YW CR and other chat rooms. This, I believe, mitigates the “issue with chat rooms” to which theShtayger is referring.
NY MomMemberICOT: There are valid points on both sides, but I feel that the risk of not having a political voice in the greater society is the greater evil. Politics is a dirty business, but there are many issues that affect the frum community which call for political influence.
What would be, if we didn’t have this influence to defend ourselves from our adversaries and to advocate for our concerns?
NY MomMemberICOT: That is very well said.
NY MomMembertheShtayger: Oh so there’s no issue with chat rooms? I didnt realize.
Are chat rooms moderated like the CR? Even if they are, they are not moderated by frum people, and those moderators don’t care if people want to meet or communicate outside the chat room. Isn’t that a major part of the danger of chat rooms? Creating a relationship with someone and then taking it to the next level?
The moderators are the major factor here, IMHO.
You can also choose not to respond to female posters such as myself if you want to be makpid in “Al tarbeh”.
NY MomMemberMod 72: LOL, you are mamesh on a roll today!
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