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I don’t understand the problem here. There are certain things that people must do in order to accomplish other things. Just like a person has to go to work if he wants to provide for his family, so to a girl has to go to seminary if she wants to get a shidduch. Don’t cry or complain about it. I don’t complain about having to go to work. It doesn’t mean I like it. I t just means that I know what I want And I act accordingly. I believe thats the definition of maturity. You people are a bunch of babies.
So NOW are you happy?
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Tisha B’av was yesterday
Rosh Hashana is tomorrow
I can’t beleive you are so mean,
as to get me involved when I did not write anything on this page.
For all of you grammar and English freaks it’s called a POETIC LICENSE (blue shirt).
rabbiofberlin: kol haposel bimumo posel. I’m sorry to inform you that you are wrong. I don’t know if you are the rabbi of anything, berlin or otherwise, but I do certainly know that there is an issue with uncovered feet. so yes, having holes very well may require the use of socks.
and you ought have noticed before you spewed that the beged isha issue was introduced in regard to bright colors.
so NOW are you happy
Dear lammed hey,
I am very sorry to admit that I am not privy to the personal lives of all the gedolim and their families. And if I did I would not share such intimate information with everyone and anyone. quite frankly, its not tznius.
But I have a question for you. Which Gedolim use boxers and which use briefs according to your sources?
Dear lammed hey,
I am very sorry to admit that I am not privy to the personal lives of all the gedolim and their families. And if I did I would not share such intimate information with everyone and anyone. Quite frankly, its not tznius.
But I have a question for you. Which Gedolim use boxers and which use briefs according to your sources?
A place not frequented by people who are religous fanatics and yet so ignorant at the same time.
cantoresq- Thank you for that foreign language class. It inspires me to learn spanish or whatever language that was.
As to the real question here, of course they’re not tznius. They have holes all over them. And don’t give me any of that “it’s less than a tefach” junk. It doesn’t matter. The gedolim have to speak out against this new trend. assur gamur.
Dear Think BIG,
A 13 year old daughter of mine would never write this. I am very confident for a few reasons.
1)My daughter would have the midah of emes and I contend the the letter writer has been influenced to give up this midah that she had at birth- either by her role models or by mdlevine.
2)If you will add that I being the father would in the this case be guilty of such neglect as charged by this nice girl then she- my daughter- would never even consider writing such a letter for I would find out and beat her until her mother jumped in front of her and pleaded that enough is enough.
Its only because of chasah oivad avodah zarah, chasnos
ask a rabbi. Not a forum of ameratzim
Just because the concept exists that women should have good midos, you can’t go claiming that this is what a certain posuk is saying
Would you like a similar example of what you did to show its absurdity?
The posuk says that Noach had three sons. This does not tell me that a person has an obligation to keep shabbos- even though its true that a perso has to keep shabbos, you cannot say that it has anything to do with this posuk.
Because you THINK so?
jphone says:
This appears to be an “issue” (I hate using this word) unique to Lakewood. Why?
Because people from Lakewood like to complain. Do you have something better for them to complain about? You might find on top of the page entitled “YWN Coffee Room” a button with the words “Add New” on it. That should get you started. I can’t wait to see what they’ll come up with next.
Dear nameless, thank you for telling us what you “think” it can apply to. Just because you make something up, that don’t make it so.
Since when does the president have a din of a melech? You see pictures of the president with people who wear whatever they want. The president himself wears whatever he wants. My brother saw a picture of him wearing shorts. Does that make them “fit for a king”? Kal v’chomer for the common person. No rayahs from the president please. They are silly.
Pashuteh Yid
mishna berurah O”C 91 s”k 13.
First of all, there is no other mishna berurah except O”C.
More importantly, if one goes to a conservative or reform temple, are their values sufficient? Clearly not. Clearly the standards are set by the mekomei torah in the area. If you know of any makom torah where they daven without hats and jackets, keep it to yourself because I will simply contest your assertion that it really is a makom torah.
Baalsechel
It is true that people generally don’t date to do Chesed.
I think NASI wants to change that
the mdlevine post that i refer to in my genius essay appears here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tznius-a-womans-issue/page/2
I am guessing that you are standing up for her because the poor thing is thirteen. When it comes to emes and a clear void where kibbud av should be, I have NO mercy.
I do not think that discussing this on YWN makes her mature. Furthermore, her maturity has nothing to do with her love for her father which I never contested to begin with if you read the last part of my brilliance.
Since when do “the poskim” have a right to argue with the Chai Adam. Not me, the Chai Adam.
You make the assumption that i go somewhere else to talk. Is that a problem?
Furthermore, when I was younger I went to school…… To learn and to GET AN EDUCATION. So you see that you can go one place to do two completely separate things
Dear teenof13,
It is quite clear that you are not trying to be very disrispectful- only a little disrespectful. You did not bring up any good points and this was not a good post. I do not feel for you and my heart does not go out for you.
Your father has a lot of responsibilities. He has a family to run and a mortgage to worry about. I’ll bet most of his average day is spent dealing with getting the proper funds to put food on YOUR plate and pay for YOUR prust clothing. Perhaps he has other family members who require physical care. He has a job that he must professionally maintain and yet he must find time to learn. The list can go on and on depending on the man. All you do is sit at home and complain. Give the poor man a break. If you want to speak to him, you are going to have to make an appointment. I’m sure he won’t turn you down. He loves you very much; having children isn’t just for social status.
Judging by the fact that you don’t have proper respect for your father, it would similarly follow that you have little social tact. You should read “How to win friends and influence others” by Dale Carnegie. However, that doesn’t help for now so I will give you a boost by providing you with a sample of what you might want to say.
“Excuse me, Dad. Can I speak with you when you finish this conversation.”
“Do you think perhaps you will have time today to talk about what happened with my friend Chanie/ play a game of scrabble/ study for be’ur tefilla with me?”
“Oh. How about tomorrow night?”
“Well, how about Wednesday night?”
“What about next Sunday?”
And if something comes up and he is forced to reschedule for another time? Please don’t mention it. Your mind cannot comprehend how bad he feels about it.
Most importantly, however, is the point that you really don’t hate your father. I think that mdlevine should apologize to you for influencing you to write that letter.
mdlevine clearly had a chip on his shoulder and independent of anything you wrote on the tznius thread, wanted such a letter to be written. Mdlevine, grasping onto a slight mention of frustration that could have simply had to do with the mood you were in at the time, used you to do his bidding, exaggerated your point and influenced you to express yourself the way you did above. Once that was done, you felt the need to defend your position.
Although he most likely will not back down just as you didn’t back down, you should know that someone out there understands.