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nishtdayngesheftParticipant
“As long as they are basically respectful to me, I don’t care what they call their dog.”
I am not talking about how YOU are addressed. The person may have no idea who else you have adressed in the same manner.
My comments refer to what the greeting means to the person offereing the greeting.
It would seem to me that a if asomeone greets a person the same way he greets an animal, the greeting itself, by the person making it has not much value.
The way I look at it, offering a greeting to person is being respectful of them, it is a way of working on myself, to further proper respect of others. If all I am doing is offering a greeting that is appropriate for a dog, I am not raising my respect of others by offering such a meaningless greeting.
nishtdayngesheftParticipantAnd if you were familiar with the president, would you not say sir? Of course not. Even his closest aides are sure to add the honorific.
And you say Sir when saying hi to a stranger in pasing?
But, following your thought process, and your comments, you would say it is appropriate to address a person the same way you would address a dog.
nishtdayngesheftParticipantWolf,
I do not see where I assume that a greeting is strictly for a Tzelem Elokim. Reread what was written, it says nowhere near such a thing.
I was wondering about greeting an animal and a Tzelem Elokim in the same manner.
I doubt you would greet the President in the same manner that you greet a person in shul. You would not say hi in an offhanded manner to him. Intrinsic in a greeting is it being respectful and appropriate to who is being greeted.
Greeting your neighbor as you would a dog, appears not to be respectful. (except that you are a Wolf)
Is there not more to a greeting than just saying a few nice words by rote, with no real meaning behind what is being said?
nishtdayngesheftParticipantSo, if you believe midos are at least partially hereditary, this would mean that it would make sense to consider yichus.
nishtdayngesheftParticipantDoes greeting an animal cheapen the meaning of greeting a Tzelem Elokim when done in the same manner?
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