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Wolf,

Your shabbos must have an interesting tzurah if those are your minhagim.

(Keeping in mind the kedusha of minhag Yisroel)

Wolf,

the question was put out to the general public to answer as they understand the both terms. If you do not want to answer, or do not have an answer don’t.

Deflections like yours above do not add anything to the conversation.

SJS,

You are making assumptions that have no basis. You have absolutely no idea whether these parents can pay more or not. You know the old saying about assuming. I will not participate in your assumption. I will stay with the facts. There are numerous cases for whom it is not possible to get more funding. And Rabbi Shapiro’s departure does not seem to lay primarily with his own compensation.

SJSinNYC,

I do not understand what your two comments have to do with each other.

Do you think he should or should not receive chodesh l’shana?

BYBP is a community school and took that responsibility seriously, they would accept students even when there was no way of getting paid.

I would suspect that the overwhelming majority of those receiving scholarships cannot pay more and this is the school that accepted upon itself the responsibility to make sure that all children recieve a proper education.

I am not saying it was not first choice school for many, but the school also accepted those students that were not first choice for other schools for reasons including finances.

I dont get the feeling that R Shapiro’s issue was primarily his getting paid. Much more that he felt that there he could not remain and follow the directives of the Board.

Should someone who is not in kollel and is at or below the level to recieve food stamps, should they use them or not?

Would the Moderator or Editor care to identify which one is actually adding the bolded remarks so if a commenter wishes to address the bolded remarks, it can be directed to the correct individual.

No

“As long as they are basically respectful to me, I don’t care what they call their dog.”

I am not talking about how YOU are addressed. The person may have no idea who else you have adressed in the same manner.

My comments refer to what the greeting means to the person offereing the greeting.

It would seem to me that a if asomeone greets a person the same way he greets an animal, the greeting itself, by the person making it has not much value.

The way I look at it, offering a greeting to person is being respectful of them, it is a way of working on myself, to further proper respect of others. If all I am doing is offering a greeting that is appropriate for a dog, I am not raising my respect of others by offering such a meaningless greeting.

Wolf,

I do not see where I assume that a greeting is strictly for a Tzelem Elokim. Reread what was written, it says nowhere near such a thing.

I was wondering about greeting an animal and a Tzelem Elokim in the same manner.

I doubt you would greet the President in the same manner that you greet a person in shul. You would not say hi in an offhanded manner to him. Intrinsic in a greeting is it being respectful and appropriate to who is being greeted.

Greeting your neighbor as you would a dog, appears not to be respectful. (except that you are a Wolf)

Is there not more to a greeting than just saying a few nice words by rote, with no real meaning behind what is being said?

Does greeting an animal cheapen the meaning of greeting a Tzelem Elokim when done in the same manner?