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Yes. College is not Yeshiva. People would not pay hundreds of thousands just to study. You’re there for a degree, and you want a degree for jobs. Don’t listen to the idealists who say otherwise.
I didn’t say the other side is any less sharp. I was commenting on the assertion that YWN is not supposed to be for those with your opinions.
Can’t take the heat when people do the same to you, Avi? Let’s see if the mods jump to your aid on this post.
Does commenting on your tone or choice of words automatically translate as jumping to his aide?
If I am allowed to ask, would “not supposed to be for those with your opinions” mean that we should delete his posts? mock them? Make sarcasm emojis under them? Laughing at your claim is not a defense of Avi, it is just something brought on by years of reading what is posted here and who usually runs off crying/sickened.
Ironically, I’m part of a Chabad community, but I don’t use Chabad for the mentioned things. I used to use Chabad for Zmanim, but after they updated their site a few times it got annoying. Also, you can’t see Magein Avraham Zmanim on Chabad obviously.
To the nay sayers, Chabad is actually the most popular source for this information, so LB isn’t too far off in thinking most people would go to them for it. I think LB is referring to the extremists who deny the good Chabad has done. You can be non-Chabad and disagree 100% with their shita without being anti-Chabad.
Avi K can be rude to entire segments of the frum population, and make specific attacks (yes, specific now to ZD, who I think was on his side).
Yet, strikingly the mods only jump in when people criticize Avi K… The basic assumption that this site caters to the religious right time and time again is shown to have no basis. I’m not saying whether or not it should, but it’s definitely a misconception.
Besides that being a dramatic overstatement of fact, who defended Avi K.?
Additionally, I use a goral to decide which faction of klal yisroel I support on any given day so any patterns you notice are coincidental.
Catch, I second that post.
If people need evidence that the MO is doing more to promulgate closed-mindedness, just look at this very thread.
Also, when people read Litvish accounts of early Chassidim, or Chassidish accounts of the Gra and his talmidim, they must take it with a grain of salt. The Yom Kippur incident described in this thread likely never actually took place.
Sorry for the side-track, but I want to thank DaasYochid for showing me that if you put “beta.” in front of hebrewbooks.org, you can get more content than using the normal www. It’s great to know they have an actually legible Shulchan Aruch out there!
Brilliant. I get it now.
I made myself look like a moron earlier. I bow to your superior posting skills, sir.
If the media were treating animals and Palestinians similarly then the title of this thread should be “media bigoted towards ANIMALS.”
Also, I hope you’re trolling. Unless you’re only reading right-wing media, the main (leftist) media talks about terrorists like they’re angels.
LB, that was my question too. I only read the Rema, and it sounded like you only add 1 period, which it sounds like is how Syag holds, but others are definitely saying to keep adding.
The BT question is still legitimate. Even one a BT starts observing the mitzvos, it is still much more likely that they will forget to light candles than someone who has done it habitually. I don’t believe the custom to light a candle per child is observed alongside that to add for forgetting, I think people either hold one way or the other (I could be wrong).
“Its not anti-semetic to not want a 5 story yeshiva on your block”
It is if they would be totally fine with a 10 story university or 2 story mega church… Do you buy it when zoning commissions block Synagogues because of the “traffic” it would cause?
My original understanding was that you keep adding for every time you missed, i.e. if you miss 2 weeks in your life, you light 4 candles for the rest of your life (the original 2 plus the 2 “penalty” ones). But, after reading the page DY linked, it sounds like the Rema just mentioned lighting a third when you forget; is it just inferred that you light 4 is you forget twice and so on?
Syag, what’s an issue? Adding candles or the fact that people don’t?
Has anyone ever actually seen the [not] custom we’re talking about observed?
Lighting only 2 forever, I believe, is the Minhag Ashkenaz. Adding a candle per kid seems to be popular among eastern Europeans. I read there was a custom to add a candle for each Shabbos you missed candle lighting, but I’ve never actually seen that observed.
With most old school Ashkenaz customs, you won’t really get the super spiritual, mystical explanation you might be looking for (unless someone created one later down the road).
Golfer and moshe have done a perfect job to prove the OP right. Also, they are doing a good job in promoting many negative stereotypes about Litvaks…
The article with the video was perfectly respectful. YWN probably realized that such a video was going around, and Rabbi Hoffman wrote an article reminding everything that it’s a legitimate minhag.
I hadn’t heard of it, and I found it interesting and well-written. I like to believe that it was posted for people to view as interesting, not to view it hatefully.
Lightbrite: Where have you been?
Mmm my mistake… I read “Most THINKless Jobs.” I’ll be on my way.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe was really against adoption? Source?
I must agree with RY that it’s unlikely that the Chanukah cookies were developed independently of Christmas cookies.
That doesn’t necessarily make it Chukas haGoyim. The goyim don’t attach any ritualistic or superstitious significance to the cookies, they just do it for fun. It’s just an ironic way of celebrating the holiday that memorializes our resistance to assimilation.
And, again, why hasn’t anyone brought up gifts yet?
How has nobody mentioned giving gifts yet?
RY: What specific types of cookies? I’m not being argumentative, by the way, I’m just curious as to what you mean.
It was mostly sarcastic. But, I do object to you talking like more intermarriage between Sphards and Ashkenazim is a strong point. If people want unity of minhagim when they’re raising children, I see no problem. And, almost everyone agrees that it’s not a problem when Sphardim do it do preserve their customs; it’s only when Ashkenazim have the same opinion that people get up in arms. Double standard.
mw, the boarders have changed several times. The state shouldn’t be able to just bulldoze Jewish homes willy nilly any time they feel like making one of their frivolous peace attempts. Can you imagine what would happen if they bulldozed Arab homes?
If you hold like the Zionists, then please explain to me how a “Jewish state” can exclusively bulldoze Jewish homes, but not anyone else’s. If you don’t hold like the Zionists, then who cares about their boarders.
Winnie, sounds like you really love the chilonim, don’t you?
The early Zionists changed their names, changed their pronunciation, purposely killed Yiddish, and tried to establish Israel is an un-Western culture in a lot of ways; ever notice how most of the restaurants in Israel are serving Middle Eastern food when the country was founded by Europeans? The myth of Ashkenazi elitism among the early Zionists needs to stop. They didn’t just hate traditional Sphardi culture, they hated their own culture too. Just like all socialists, self loathers.
As to the OP’s question, America is like 95% Ashkenaz, so it’s not really a fair comparison.
I remember my life when Clinton was President, but I was too little to be thinking about stuff; so, the answer is probably Bush. Yeah, it’s a pretty narrow competition for me. How about you?
Chabad is a great resource to many, but lilmod is right that a lot of their standings are not mainstream. Breslevers are extremely strict regarding Zman hatefillah, while Chabadniks essentially ignore those hilchos altogether. I don’t say that as an insult, that’s just something you should be aware of.
You’ll have trouble finding a mainstream Breslev presence on the internet. You’ll get a lot of “Neo-Chassidishe” kind of Breslev on the internet and some of the Breslev velt that’s a little more chummy with Zionism. The “super observant Breslevers” (as the OP put it) are not going to have a big presence on the English internet, or the internet at all for that matter. But, you can make do; I wish you the best of luck.
You could look at breslevcenter’s blogspot; they have a lot of Breslever minhagim there.
A lot of the Breslev velt holds by the Magein Avraham times, and the Rebbe advocated learning Halachah from the Chayei Adam. Otherwise, most general halachahs are going to be the same.
The W in Bush Jr isn’t for Walker? I’m pretty sure as long as you have the same first and last name as your father, you’re a Junior.
Bush Jr. I know that may surprise people given who know how I lean. He destabilized the middle east and made the pro – “two state solution” the mainstream even in the Republican party.
Also, unless my memory fails me, he started the bailouts which were continued under Obama.
Also, bear in mind, “my lifetime” does not include as many presidents as most posters here.
Yeah, I’m realizing that too, Yehuda. It was probably incorrect, what I was told.
I don’t see any reason collecting would be assur, unless you’re just the type who looks for reasons to issur everything. Which, if you were, you probably wouldn’t be posting on an online forum.
A lot of mainstream cereals have just a K or KD on them. I was told it’s because they don’t want to display the same symbol on their boxes as on their competitors boxes so they use a “general” symbol. Also, to the OP, if you have an unopened Nintindo Cereal box from the 80’s, it could be worth a lot. Cereal box collecting is actually a thing. I happen to find it fascinating while I don’t actually do it myself.
Major Zmanim announcement: Now that Eastern Standard Time is here, all halachic Zmanim have been pushed back by an hour.
Did anyone else come here wondering what “Magein Avraham Counseling” means?
And you did defend their positions. You and I both know well that the Conservative “nusach” is not comparable to the changes made in Nusach Sephard. Getting rid of the sh’lo asani’s just to be more politically correct has no halachic basis.
As for the food, yes the authors of the Conservative Responsa books also cited old, traditional sources that brought up the points. We have a concept of majority opinion that keeps our religion together. You can’t just hold like Shammai or whoever you want whenever you like it. Multiple posters have shown that the halachah was NOT decided in favor of those leniencies, and please, just use common sense. Look where the halachic anarchism has gotten the Conservative movement: it’s dying off, baruch hashem.
Supposedly the founder of the Reconstructionist movement lived an Orthodox lifestyle. Nonetheless, he and Heschel alike, are considered non-Orthodox Rabbis. He himself was openly a part of the Conservative movement; if you like him and want to honor him, how about you identify him as he identified himself instead of trying to claim him as one of “our” own?
Oh, I just think it’s interesting to learn what other people do. I also davened nusach sephard even privately for years, and still daven in a nusach sephard shul.
I admit my general far religious right views have a bit of a boy who cried wolf effect; I’ll own up to that. However, I am sure I’m not alone when I say this: those of you defending Conservative rabbis and even Conservative positions tooth and nail are ruining any credibility you had in halachic matters. Also, if you think being against the Conservative movement makes you “extreme chareidi,” you’re posting in the wrong forum.
Froggie, you daven Sphard?
In other news, he was a Conservative Rabbi. Period. Why is this still a discussion?
And no, let’s put a stop to the myth that the Conservative movement was frum until they let people drive on Shabbos. They had already “mattir’d” swordfish, gelatin, treif cheese, altered the nusach, done away with mechitzas, done away with pretty much all hilchos tznius. Did I miss anything? They might have already said a Kohen can marry a convert by that point, but I’m unsure of that one. Point is, the Conservative movement was never OK. If you think it was, you’re either not informed or you simply aren’t Orthodox. Mr. Heschel, for example, was not.
His books aren’t kosher. I know they look tasty, but I think trying to swallow one would be dangerous.
Lilmod, they just wouldn’t eat from the dairy part of people’s homes. From what I’ve observed, I think Lubavitchers actually WILL eat chalav stam DE. But, I’ve heard an interpretation that, even if you do eat chalav stam DE, you shouldn’t do so with OU hechshered things because you can never truly know that it’s just DE as they don’t differentiate.
After that YWN article about how the Rav Moshe heter no longer applies and how the OU admits that we’re back to choosing between the Chasam Sofer and the Pri Chadash, I’m hard pressed to understand why more people don’t avoid chalav stam DE. If you hold it as a halachah, not just chumrah, that equipment is treif for you.
Motion to move this post to the “Democratic Underground” category.
“Not to be Taken Literally” is pretty much the slogan of Christianity. Whenever goyim hear a rule in the Tanach that they don’t want to follow (all of them) they just say “ehh it’s not meant to be taken literally.” So as to suggest that when the Tanach unambiguously forbids something, it’s all part of some greater, spiritual metaphor the meaning of which they’ll think of another time.
By the way, I realize I’m derailing this. Sorry.
Wow, we trolled someone without even trying…
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Wow, yeah. I honestly would have thought that was a typo looking at it in the Siddur and how things line up. I don’t believe it’s said this way in the Chabad Siddur, but I could be wrong. Chabad’s nusach is not as far from Ashkenaz in the Amidah as it could be.
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It’s true that that’s an Ashko-Sphard combo, but does it not make grammatical sense? Seems like it would just mean “because you hear the prayers from ever mouth of the nation of Israel with compassion.”
On 147’s point, I think he’s actually right about the reason for Ashkenazim never adopting it. Not sure where I could find a source, but I know I’ve read that, and I doubt it’s coincidence that he thought the same thing.
You’re really talking about desserts. I made almond milk country gravy and it came out OK, but I am a staunch opponent of parve desserts. FFB’s seem to be conditioned to love them, but it’s very difficult to train yourself as an adult to be able to palette parve desserts.
“But I don’t think anyone is going to change their nusach based on anyone’s arguments either way.”
This is exactly right. And, I’m glad you brought that up about the 12 nusachs. It’s taught that each corresponded to one of the 12 permutations of HaShem’s name (4!/2!) so that Klal Yisroal collectively covered every possible way of praying to Hashem.
Do you have an example of the case where the combining in Nusach Sphard causes absurd phrasing? I’m just curious.
Given that Hashem melech, the entirety of the Kabbalat Shabbat service, and several other pasuks are technically kabbalistic additions, those saying that Sphardi Nusach is pure and unaltered need to review. Supposedly the Ashkenazim actively avoided kabbalistic customs after the Shabbatei Tzvi debacle (although clearly some still made their way in). If you think the Sphardi Nusach is more accurate, that’s fully in your right, but that’s NOT actually what the academics say, contrary to popular belief.
MTA has a diversity of students ranging from fried out to Open Orthodox to Modern Orthodox!
My point is (assuming I get past moderation), assuming you’re like most BT’s who don’t have an interest in joining the far religious left, MTA probably is not a good idea.