nathan21

Amen Rosh Chabura. I wouldn’t be surprised if you really were a rosh chabura. Thank you for bringing up this issue. something has to be done for the sake of our young Yiddeshe kinder! i think the bouncer idea is a good one. i would volunteer for the job. also we should try to get rid of this candy machine in the lobby that rents videos. bed rocks i think its called. we must call an askan meeting immediately because the summer is almost upon us.

and by the way rabbi boruch levines music is jewish not like these other singers (some of whom are advertising on YWN right now)

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u could go sunday i guess but sun night is yom tov

jphone. in the case of yfr i know what went on firsthand and your story is not comparable at all. yfr’s mesiba was in the yeshivas dining room and yes people hung out outside but nobody was blaring music or any of the sort. the only people that may have been disturbed by the kids hanging outside were the houses mamash next to or across yeshiva. nobody down the block could have been dsturbed

“Maybe if the bochurim had kept their parties INDOORS where it was supposed to be, instead of running through the streets like behaimas or disturbing the peace int he middle of the night”

ninety five percent of the people at the party were inside, maybe 20 or 30 guys were outside and yes were making noise but a point that you have not addressed is one that this is one night a year. 365 days in a year and for one night there was a party where guys made noise. you are simply overrating it. i mean the people who live near wedding halls in brooklyn have a right to complain about the noise because it goes on probably a few times a week but for you and your neighbors to complain incessantly to the point where the yeshiva had to stop making a mesiba is ridiculous. another point i have is out of the maybe thirty guys hanging outside making noise 99 percent of them were on the hicksville side because that is where the entrance is to the basement where the party was held. out of 4 parties that i have been too in the yeshiva i have hung outside a little bit and it was always on hicksville. nobody went to frisco. and no one ran through the street like behaimas. you are seriously exaggerating what took place and overrating it and i feel like as an eyewitness for years at these parties i must refute the ridiculous claims u make.

man up? i am saying these things here cause this is a forum about drinking on purim and you were the one who first brought up the yeshiva that makes a ton of noise and i felt i had to point out that what you were saying is completely false because there wasnt a party in 3 years and if i should say my comments to your face then why do you say later the comments are not shayich to you? you are contradicting yourself

you have no makom telling me to grow up. i am very mature and your complaints are more immature than anything ive said so far.

i have never attempted to identify you. im not sure where you conjure these prepostorous things.

Were he actually present there for the duration of the entire mesiba, he would surely have recognized if strangers were invading his school and acting out. It should not take repeated complaints for several years to get the problem rectified, there or any other place.

the mashgiach was there for the entire party and would throw anyone out if they werent in yeshiva. i said that already. this party hasnt been going on for three years and you still complain about it?! mindboggling!! if there are kids who still make noise near yeshiva its probably not yfr kids anyways and the yeshiva has no achrayus for neighborhood kids making noise in front of your house

“And a drunken bum IS a disgrace to Torah, there is no heter whatsoever anywhere for any jewish child to ever cause a chillul Hashem by drunken, obnoxious behavior. The fact that “modern” orthodox kids on Central Avenue may act wild and cause a ruckus on Friday afternoon, in no way excuses the awful, rowdy behavior of kids who ought to know better (by that faulty logic), because they come from more yeshivish backgrounds. If anything, they are worse, because they purport to be b’nei Torah, so their behavior is under even greater scrutiny by Jew and non-Jew alike”

the kids are not bums. they may be drunk but their not bums. they may be causing a chillul Hashem but they are so much better than those haft kids. If I had a teenage son and had a choice between if hed be drunk and making noise in the streets on Purim or whether hed be on central wearing low slung jeans, a tee shirt, no tziztis, no yarlmaka, holding hands with his girlfriend, singing some goyish rap song, who most likely doesnt keep shabbos and is most likely not shomer id pick drunk on purim. and these kids from yeshivish homes who u claim to purport to be bnei tora? trust me oomis, they know their not bnei torah and no one else does except u and your modern friend because u think everyone who is not modern and not in south shore, halb or haftr is automaticaly yeshivish and bnei torah.

this argument is becoming pretty heated. oomis simply cant handle her liquor or her husband cant and maybe they had a bad experience with it so she takes it out on the rest of us normal people who ….gasp…drink on purim! or shes just sick and tired of all those “bums” who come from yeshivish homes in her neighborhood who walk around the street making a ruckus and chillel Hashem because kids from modern orthodox homes dont behave like that! i mean look at them behaving beautifully friday afternoon on central ave!

ben levi: Amen brother! beautifuly said!

aries: u choose what you choose to see. you see the glass half empty. you see ten guys outside the yeshiva or in the side rooms fighting and throwing up, but me and ben levi see the 100 people in the yeshiva experiencing true Purim Sameach. The amount of people who act in a leibidig kosher Purim spirit way far outnumber the idiots who act r”l like goyim. the problem is these idots are usually outside for the rabim to see which gives the majority a bad name. when you see the whole picture youl come to realize ben levi is right and you are misinformed to say the least

ok your right. sorry oomis for saying your unhealthily overprotective. i dont know u from a hole in the wall and i was wrong but i do believe if someone doesnt allow their teen to drink on purim even a little when supervised then i think thats too overprotective

just going through all the purim threads and i disagree with flatbush27. bochurim should use limos. kids need incentives these days and if this gets them to collect then thats what we have to do. ah u could say alot of money is going to the limo and not the tzedaka but these kids would not have collected any tzedaka money if not 4 the limo

dont feel like reading through the whole thread but my teenage daughter wants to know if she could dress up this purim. initially i said no because i felt it would not be tznius but what do people here think? should i just change my mind say yes?