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Dear Ready,
What do you think helped, the Doctor or the medicine?Remember this one?
We’re building a wall on the border in New Mexico and we’re building a wall in Colorado!”
Eating inside on SA is mentioned in the gemara.
Dear Mammele,
I came across a younger person who got sick (no taste or smell, 3 days fever, coughing, etc.) in May. It seems to be true that most of us are no longer contagious. But the chance that right now no one in Lakewood is contagious is about zero.
There is reason to suggest that kids do not get sick from other kids. That does not help the teacher. Camps have younger staff, so it may work.Dear Health,
“Not proven to commit a crime” and ” hasn’t had a trial” sound the same to me. These to candidates are not at all similar. Why compare them? Just say what you like. I am having difficulty following.Dear Syag,
The key word here is ‘normal’. Shuls could reopen in a creative way. To get back to pre-covid, will take solid science or zero cases geographically.Dear Bocher,
I apologize for my joke missing your point. Maybe your theory is true. Maybe. The situation is more serious than that. A lot has reopened in the Northeast. Yeshivos and shuls returning to normal seems like a bad idea. What guidelines should they use? Good question. Answer: One based on solid science, not a maybe.
(P. S. If someone dies through negligence Hashem will not be “understanding’.)Dear Common,
My point was that Hashem was looking out for your son. I apologize.Dear Joseph,
The opposite is sensible. I support the idea of a just society. There is no need for society to support the corporation. [I assume a corporation to be a legal fiction.]“Shocking how many frum (or I assume frum people here) support Biden and allow sheker to come out of their mouths regarding Trump. Maybe he is a goy, but once you allow sinas chinam to enter your bloodstream it doesn’t take much to use it on fellow Jews.”
Shocking how many frum……… to use it on fellow Jews.
Evidently.
Support Biden and allow sheker.
They really support Trump. The only problem is sheker.
Maybe he is a goy.
To avoid sheker say maybe.
Sinas chinam………
Do not hate , the new Republican rally cry.Dear 1,
The cowboys and the mexicans have been wearing wide brims for 2 centuries. The yeshivishe velt wore them for a 1/4 of a century. My grandfathers never had a wide brim hat.Dear Ubiquitin,
I looked up the first post. Perhaps it is asking about using hydroxychloroquine to treat malaria?Dear Joseph,
That is less factual. Look into where the money is actually going. The government is not.Biden’s son is about a tenth as crooked as Trump. It is weird to bring up dis-honorable points to discredit any presidential candidates. I am getting the feeling that a lot of Trump supporters do not have any reason to support him, other than that he is on the ticket. If that is how you feel, then say so. It is no worse than saying oh yeah well um the economy. Or, my life revolves around preventing abortion. Or, he will stop climate change. He is a true oheiv yisrael. A model citizen, or some other junk. Elections are elections not much else. One ticket will one. Picking one at random is fine. Lying about it is not okay.
Dear Common,
Not sure if the slur was intended, but I appreciate the pun. Other than that, I have not been victimized at any point.Dear CTL,
My fault. I bumped the post to see if it would get updated.Dear Common,
Were you relieved that he did not get in?Dear Takah,
A narrow beis medrash in the same building as Beis Shalom. By the main entrance on Ninth Street. It always had a senior crowd.Dear 1,
However they managed to vote for the last eighty years.This whole thread is not based on truth. As a community we are very different. We could reopen in a lot of ways, without violating the state guidelines. Especially, in Lakewood where there is an excellent relationship with the township, the police, public works, etc.
Dear Joseph,
I know of four. And I am not in Lakewood. (Big deal, there are dozens that are closed.) All kinds of rumors about minyan factories being open there as well. Very unclear if they have strict guidelines or not. Do not react to rumors.Dear Nachshon,
I think it is peer pressure. Personally speaking to people, they are more unsure of what they think, than what they practice. (Both ways.)Dear Bocher,
I went out into the street and met a coronavirus. (I always take my transmission electron microscope with me.) I asked are you frum? It responded very much so, and will only reside among like minded people. I left the street and met another one. Are you frum? No, I am of the derech.Just kidding. Viruses do not work that way.
Dear Common,
There is a sweetness to this one, but we discussed this about the ill fasting on Yom Kippur. What is different here, (I call someone that age daily.) is that when they were young, the world was in turmoil. (the Great Depression & WWII) Then, was 40 years of national uncertainty, with the fear of atomic war etc. The last three decades were ideal for retirees to enjoy what they worked at their entire life. Now, that there is global tragedy and national conflict again, they see it, as it is not their world anymore. [In a comforting way.]Dear Rava,
We just do not know. It sounds better to me to say that we received our oinesh and are doing teshuvah. Unverified medical opinions sound very silly to me after the last three months.
1)This is not the measles. After multiple waves there could still be a solid percentage that never gets it.
2)Herd immunity is far more effective on viruses that are out of the community. Corona has to leave for a bit, for it to be a real factor.
3)Covid-19 is not the direct work of the virus. The fact that people have antibodies will not mitigate the factors for those that do not. A weakened strain of coronavirus may just as lethal.Dear Ubiquitin,
Can I take hydroxychloroquine for malaria without zinc?Both opinions seem correct. People must move on, but be cautious at the same time. And think of others. Some need to distance more, and some need to distance less. (There may even be someone who needs cleaning help,pizza, and needs to stay out of shul.) It is much easier to social distance when we do it as a community. What happened? I have no idea. To paraphrase a philosopher ‘our community is dead and we killed it’. Let’s all do our part to make that line into an absolute lie.
Where is this bocher today?
Dear Bocher,
It is wrong to say virtually zero about people who were in the hospital. [They are people, not zeros.] It is fine about people who are at risk of being hospitalized. [Now it is numbers, not people.] You may be correct about reopening, but do not forget the orphans, mourners, the ill, and the unemployed. There is a lot to clean up. Instead of blaming the President/Governor, or starting a minyan vs. cleaning help debate, we should think about those who really got hit.How about Australia?
Dear 29.
Thank you for looking! I think I am not submiting some of my posts before I close the page. If you have anyway to check that for me……Last month: “If groceries could be open, than shuls can be open.”
This month: “Every store should start selling groceries.”Dear Joseph,
What mitzvah was the speech?I remember when I was in Lakewood, squankum avenue used to flood several times a year. Not anymore. The township put in new drains throughout town.
Dear Syag,
I agree with that. But there is no push to pass legislation to help small businesses. I wrote a longer piece, but it did not post. All the stimulus bills make it hard to look into the matter, anyway. We agree to support the locals.
I don’t see any deleted postsThe frum stores do not want to miss the Shavuos season.
Dear Forshayer,
I heard from a well known senior Rav, that a woman home alone should not answer the door for a meshuluch.Dear Joseph,
Great idea! You can go and help them reopen. No poor country has high numbers. But that is starting to change.Dear Syag,
If this helps you, then my pleasure. A bunch of yeshivos. A lot of connections with various Rabbeim. No steady crowd. An effort to talk to everybody. Especially those with nobody to talk to. Still learning. No formal setting.
I notice a big disconnect between teenagers and adults. [Wow what a shocker.] Yet, adults ask of the youth to cooperate (or sacrifice) for ideas that your average yeshiva bachur would be skeptical too. Well, adults are adults and they have the right. But they have to realize that there could be a disconnect. And, then the youth withdraw, or feel forced into something they do not relate too. Then, the bachur is blamed for slacking off or not caring, when he is just confused.
If one’s biggest concern is where to find a minyan, he should consider himself blessed. I question where is the impetus to help our fellow Jew. One father passing away gets a whole response. But dozens do not?Dear Joseph,
It is known that there were coronaviruses there. The question is if this one was one of them. The scientists claimed no knowledge of it.Dear Common,
In 2018 very few people talked about epidemics. Or recession.Dear Joseph,
There are other options besides vaccines. Zika left Miami without any vaccine. Nothing per se has to be shut, but we all have to cope.Does anyone think that if they will not get sick, but someone else gets very sick from it they can do it?
Dear Milhouse,
You made me laugh. I could not care less about who is on which ticket. I will spell my point out clearly. Anti-science is found among all groups of people equally. You seem to have been surprised about Republicans (besides Trump) being called anti-science. It is an oft repeated concept. [Which nobody cares about.] You insisted that it it is not true. (Other than climate change.) So I looked into it. It seems like Republicans are more likely to oppose popular sciences, and Democrats are likely to refute the social sciences and the humanities. However, the Republicans are much better at getting into public fights with science. [The humanities are not suitable for public fights. V’hameivin] Robert Broun (evolution AND just about every scientific doctrine attached to it) and James Inhofe (climate change and see above) are the best at it.Your point about Darwin is not taken.I think Einstein and Fermi are far more to where we are today. And, Darwin was not much for the interplay between science and the common people. Einstein again, and Schlick are well suited for that. Your points about policy should (more or less) be effected. But science should not be held to what is believed to be, science can explain what is and demonstrate the possible on it’s own.
Science is not rational. Reason is based on what we experience. When science finds something unexplainable (e. g. massive gas clouds) the answer is ‘mystical’ until a formula is calculated for it. Your point about the Democrats with refusing to implement policies that are backed by actual science is truthful.DISCLAIMER, It could be Inhofe and Broun have a point or two. I never took him seriously. Many scientists who are not involved in evolution or climate change will be affected by their proposed policies.
Dear Bachur,
“(virtually zero)” is a very wrong outlook. Those davening at home are not the ones with cleaning help or in pizza shops. Everyone is doing differently because of a lack of leadership.Dear Haimy,
Stop fooling people. The Governor does not mind if yidden daven or learn. Nothing needs to reopen for us to keep the Torah. You posted 3 weeks ago, that school as is, maybe too stressful for your kids. Why do people not take the opportunity to apply themselves to what is right in front of them?Dear Syag,
I think a few of my replies to you have not gotten through. Please be specific, so I could write one point at a time.Dear A Yid,
None of the minyan or bust crowd answers your question. They have many other talking points. Most of them are honest and fair. Nor do they answer why a minyan is their main concern. Oh, well.Dear Thetruth,
He did not say that it is known. Please do not require him to get to graphic. It is rare, but considered possible. Does this infer that you find the CDC reliable?Each community should have inter-collaboration. Rabbinical, medical, and lay-leaders. And, we conform to the state guidelines. It is not rocket science. [i. e. What motivation is there to deny this formula?]
American scientists who were involved with that lab, say that this particular coronavirus was unknown. Though they knew of about 50 others that may jump to humans.