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September 9, 2020 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm in reply to: IAEA: Iran Continues To Expand Stockpile Of Enriched Uranium #1900033n0mesorahParticipant
Dear Besalel,
Could be Israel and Saudi Arabia did not want the deal because of regional economics.
September 9, 2020 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm in reply to: IAEA: Iran Continues To Expand Stockpile Of Enriched Uranium #1900034n0mesorahParticipantDear Doctor,
Which proxy are you referring to?
You are also drinking the kool aid if you think the only funding for Iran was from the nuclear treaty. Iran has managed to keep the cash flowing. ISIS and other terrorists being subdued, has left the Iranian government as the largest receiver of radical dollars.
n0mesorahParticipantI think Smerel’s post is the reason that Umann has such a pull on older yeshiva guys. It is difficult to stay positive on Rosh Hashana. Especially if you do not have a crowd. They tell me that in Umann there is a good balance between serious and happy.
n0mesorahParticipantThanks Ben, I’ll have a look.
I am not sure what your issue is. How the media reported the story? Or, that this is the main story? Some other point?
n0mesorahParticipantA lot of pro lifers never think of what it would mean he Roe v. Wade were overturned.
I am just fine with being pro life in the status quo. Let’s avoid abortion because of the sanctity of life. Not out of fear of jail.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
That is one version. Possible. There is a reverse version. Also possible. Is the truth somewhere in the middle? Possible. Really weird situation. To me, this has a lot of echoes of Ferguson. The story brings up broader questions about the whole city.
The only criteria needed for resisting arrest, is that the officers had to attempt one. This was not immediately confirmed. And at this point, is conflicted. There will end up being to completely different versions. What is unique here, is that there is a survivor, multiple witnesses, and video evidence. We should get some truth eventually.
This all does not address why he was shot after the fact. If we are having a contest as to win can make the boss into heroes, I won that one long ago.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
In the video posted to Facebook there is some struggling going on by the passenger side of the car. He walks away from it. It is simple to see. His back is to the guns the whole time they were drawn. Which is clear and obvious from the whole first video.
We could discuss what was the beginning of the story. And come up with all sorts of stories why it is a shame that Blake is not dead. But how do you attempt to dispute a video that the whole nation has seen? Everyone is aghast at the video itself, and asking what is the story. But you find it self evident. You play it every night before bedtime. Or maybe you play the other video that you have hinted to. But never showed me where to find it. Or even discussed it’s contents. Because it does not exist.
PS It was his car. Eyewitnesses said he drove up in it. And told his son to get in. And the investigation referred to it as his car.
n0mesorahParticipantLo Samod Al Dam Rayecha
n0mesorahParticipantThe main reason why gun advocates are pro life is, they are running out of moving targets.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ed,
How many would there have been if it was not overturned?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Toi,
You could be summing up both today’s left and today’s right. Feelings run high in our times. Education runs low. Except for the costs. And the profits of the premier institutions.
n0mesorahParticipantIn May/June people guaranteed to me, that everyone would start wearing marks as soon as there was community spread again. We are heading toward sorrow in eight weeks.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
The police were called for a domestic incident. Their only duty is to settle the incident. There is no obligation on them to walk the beat on a call. None of those reasons automatically require the officers to remain on the scene.
None of the factors you listed are clear cut:
A: According to Raysean White, he was not even resisting. At the time he was shot, the tussle had ended.
B: To arrest him for the warrant, they would have had to identify him first. And then attempt to place him there arrest and read him his rights.
C: There is no solid corroboration that the knife was a factor. I doubt the police ever noticed it.
D: It was his kids in his car with his knife. Why is this a problem? Every father that takes his kids fishing does this.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
He was walking away from the altercation; whatever it was that took place. This does not mean there was no cause. It means that some clarification from the police should be forthcoming.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Hbs,
Name me an alternate heir to Rav Sinowitz’s z”l mantle.
Who voted you in as the one who gets to decide who is a gadol?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
Not this one. Medications are not his expertise. I do not even know that he spoke about HCQ other than an interview in the beginning of August.
Also, there are several treatments being used that are as effective as HCQ was ever thought to be. This was a big deal for about a week in March. Why does it keep coming up?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
The American political system works best when voters form blocs. We can blindly follow journalists who are busy doing their job. Or we can trust the members of our communities that give their time to advocate.
n0mesorahParticipantSo of course yeshivaleit are putting their marks back on and being more careful.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Mentsch,
How would Rav Miller gone about assessing Trump?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Hbs,
Did you miss my post?
It is Trump 1 Biden 1.
n0mesorahParticipantThere were a bunch of non partisan posts on this topic.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yerushalayim,
Maybe it is also corruption and lies. Or toaveh.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
Is there any reason not to check oxygen levels on a whim?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
The risk is minimal. If it would be definitively proven that it has a major impact on coronaviruses, nobody would be mentioning the side effects.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Resident,
Why is any of that relevant?
I am starting to get the sense of what the ‘hakoras hatov to Trump’ is all about.
Trump is a New Yorker through and through. He knows little about the U.S. besides the coasts. His idea of politics was who cares about policy let’s win the election and do what we want. When he decide He could not winged switched parties, and called the republicans racists and anti Semites. He was a Democrat but could’nt stand Obama. Now he is a Republican President with no alliance to it’s ideals.
A lot of posters here seem to be in the same ideological black hole. All anti Obama pro Trump talk, with zero commitment to policy. We must be thankful to our President for legitimizing their inability to be real Conservatives.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Curiosity,
I enjoyed your post!
Your observations give on explanation as to why the left would be so vast and self sustaining. The fact that the distinct left is numerically equal to the mainstream right, indicates that the majority of leftist people are calm or bland enough to mesh with society at large.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
I totally agree with your demands. They should only focus on catching the bad guys! All non criminal activities should be outsourced to other departments.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
Detroit has poor everything. And even the squirrels are black.Old news.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
You already agreed that medications alone would not solve the pandemic.
And, Dr. Fauci does not make the call on medications. The FDA does.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
It is considered a safe medication.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ben,
You say there are at least twelve people denying the story. Please list five.
The article alleges multiple incidents. One is being disputed. And another is being questioned. The one in France was not confirmed by FOX.
Would this story mean something to you? [You can believe it and say that it does not bother you. I am confused if you are calling out what parts of the story are not being reported. Or what the front story is.]
n0mesorahParticipantDear Resident,
Maybe you do not follow fox news. Jennifer Griffin is among tiger best investigative reporters. She is confirming that parts of the story is true. The President does talk like this. And he does not understand why anyone would serve or sacrifice. (I am not sure why this is a story. These were obvious perspectives of his for decades.) If he’s saying her sources are impeccable only amounts to that anonymous people are trashing Trump, you are inferring that fox news never does any real reporting. They just rely on people to ask People things, without caring what the real facts are. As much as I dislike fox for monopolizing viewpoints, it is a fact that they solidly back up their sources.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
The Atlantic is pro top notch journalism. And makes an effort for items that require careful research. That in of itself, is about as anti Trump as any coverage could be. It is not an intellectuals fault, that Trump despises intellectualism. One of the few places to find an intelligent opinion on why to continue to support Trump is The Atlantic.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Proud,
Almost every poster here would not align with those stats. I used to think that no orthodox Jews are more political than Jewish. The pandemic has affected my viewpoint on this notion. If anyone here has solitary as their religion, it is the Trump can do on wrong crowd.
PS We can talk about Mr. Shapiro. If had a lot of promise. He seems to have run out of enlightening thoughts.
He is wrong about the older Orthodox Jewish Democrats. The republicans were less anti Semitic than the Democrats in the middle of the last century. (At this point in his career, he is wrong about most things. It is all about how many viewers feel the need to feed off his echo chamber.)
n0mesorahParticipantDear Kollelman,
Millions of people have been infected. This seems contagious enough to be worth slowing it’s spread.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Anonymous,
Thanks for your input. To be clear (again), what Blake did was reckless.
This thread has never been about it’s title – Jacob Blake. It is about the silence from the Kenosha Police Department on the matter. [Interesting note, the chief of police has some weird things to say on a lot of other police topics.] If it is about a restraining order and resisting arrest, why did they not say that from the beginning? Why allow all this speculation?
The reason why I did not assume your version, is because it was reported as three minutes from the time of arrival to the shooting. That seems like too short to just resist arrest. At this point, I am doubtful of most of the reporting anyways. So Maybe the incident was significantly longer.
Also, what escalated the violence? The videos do not show why he had to be shot in the back. Whatever happened, Blake was walking away.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
You mentioned a lot of possible reasons. But it would help to conform to one clear narrative. Why couldn’t the officers just leave?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
The union is clearly pushing a narrative here. They have openly commented with assertions that are conflicted and unproven.
Now you are switching from bad faced lies to bold faced lies. I do not like it.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Resident,
What is ‘now’? These were known positions of the left when Joe Lieberman was on the ticket.
n0mesorahParticipantDid I get that right? You had to defend wearing a mask? Why would that be?
The only answer is the only answer. Some people always think backwards.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yerushalayim,
My only mossy in a thunderstorm is, if the power would go out how would I connect to zoom Torah.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Zsk,
How about going to shul for half an hour at a time?
n0mesorahParticipantMaybe Trump could gain a lot of support by facing up to tough questions. If his supporters would then follow his example, that would be a major impact across the nation. Enough to swing even a lopsided election.
n0mesorahParticipantDear interjection,
I have read your post over multiple times. A comprehensive response eludes me. There are multiple issues here, and very few people seem to be polarized across all the topics. Different people put the emphasis on different aspects of the same issues. This could lead to more chaos them calm. Let me answer one part at a time.
You asked me about what are the goals of the rioters. I think we understand that rioting is not open dialogue. It is hard to say that if their demands are met, then the riots would cease.
Though some of the goals in these riots are self evident. In Minneapolis, there was a real sense that the DA would not press charges unless he was compelled to. The shots really seemed to be about holding police accountable.
My take has been that the majority of violence across the nation, was due to the shutdown of society. The lower classes are not going to sit in front of a television to watch an endless news cycle about the global health crisis. The fact that so many Americans had nowhere to go, and cities were empty of street traffic, opened up the possibility of a takeover of public property. I think most Americans joined in as something to do. Similar to the crowds that went to see the navy hospital boat enter New York Harbor.
Once we are dealing with a national boredom event, all dialogue and goals are largely irrelevant. Professional looters plied their craft. Anti American actors vented their feelings. Anarchists enjoyed the free ride. Overall, the context does not help political activism because they have to take ownership of all the side shows.
When the mainstream media started hyping the Aubrey case, it alarmed me because it seemed pointless. The murder happened in February. The outrage over the video was enough to bring about several arrests, and a state investigation. There was on need to hype the story, as there was no other headlines available. It just set up a super sensitive background for whatever would happen next. And then George Floyd happened.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Oiker,
Reciprocation is not in any part halachah .
But in any case, what are thankful for about Trump?
And why does everyone think that Trump’s merit’s are unanimous?
PS If it turns out that we have more to be thankful for to Joe Biden, would you be endorsing him?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Shady,
In reality, losing a tax exempt status is more significant than the yeshiva vote in a national election.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
Real conservative republicans do not support Trump, because he is not a conservative. And Biden is closer to the not to recent Republican platforms.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
Exactly!* ** *** ****
*Except there has been as pandemic.
** And stay at home orders, with a major economic shutdown.
***Plus, racial tensions are being inflated to all time highs.
****And there has been on sports or theater, which is a major part of the city’s identity.
But yeah, it is all about the mayor. When it comes to blame, NYC has a total population of one.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health and Reb Eliezer,
My religious values have no basis in the presidency. Even more, they are not relatable to what The Supreme Court rules. The only value my religion describes to the courts, is that it should have a sustainable system of justice. [Nou sure he you know what that is..] I expect the President to uphold his office, whomever that may be. If your religion is dependant on handicapping political history, why not just worship politics itself?
n0mesorahParticipantI would have thought that by now the religious right, would own the possibility that they were one of the drivers behind the movement to redefine marriage.
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