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Whoever has strong political interests and votes in NYC, should be voting in the Democratic primaries. No matter what those interests are.

What is so hard to understand?

Dear Mesivta,

We need the Rants section back! You are overestimating the amount of brains that in into political support. People support what the politician stands for, even when there is no reason to think he will ever take that stand.

Case in point, the Yeshivaleit in NJ supported Christie over Corzine. This was despite Corzine being friendly with the community, and putting forth legislation to our benefit. Christie was supported because of his support of religion and social morality. When Thor immoral bills reached his desk, he eagerly signed them. Yet, nobody recanted their support of him over it.

People are more invested in what the politicians stand for, than the politicians themselves.

Dear Two,

Which part is questioned. What he was? No, I never heard anybody question his record it is public knowledge. Unless you mean the he is too far left, that has been regular campaign stuff.
What he is? Again, no. Unless you mean the whole he is senile garbage. He always seemed this way. People like the way he is an everyday Joe.

Dear Gadol,

They would teach QuickBooks, Microsoft Office, etc.

Dear Resident,

Trump is the most unique president in the modern day. If you like the way he works and what he is capable of, then ignore the risks and vote for him, because there may not a similar candidate again. That is the single advantage that Trump has. He is the only one who can do the things he does. The problem is, he got off the path and picked fights with journalism at large. Including a bunch of other pointless sideshows.

Biden is a low risk candidate. He knows what he is doing. The whole country knows his moderate track record. And he has been trusted by presidents from both parties. The Biden is worse argument, is utter silliness. Trump has little regard for doing things the right way. And dismantles whatever stands in his way. Presidents have done this before to the benefit of the country. We could vote for that. But to vote for him because we cannot stand the other guy (or girl) makes no sense.

I am not going to defend Obama. But going by your list of ten items, they are of the same cloth. They diverge greatly on immigration. Obama’s reforms are halted by Trump. But this is only temporary. And the court’s have already ordered some of them to proceed. Also, Obama redid healthcare. And Trump did tax cuts. Both got awful budgets out of this and little else. Nothing enduring has yet come out of the last 12 years of fiscal policy. Both extended the powers of the executive branch. Both have a solid base to talk to, but could not reach the nation at large. Both will have left over monumental massive wastes of tax dollars, that void whatever prudence they effected. Obama with the ACA. That is not modern or agile enough, to keep up with the most advanced medical treatments in the world. That is even if it was fiscally sustainable to begin with. And the useless wall on our southern border may remain for centuries. Mocking us for eating a leader that did not bother to go with any expert advice on his signature achievement.

Dear One,

My point is that you are wrong about Biden. He has been a more than capable senator for years and years. He ran for the oval office before the first Afghan war. He was the front runner until he did something stupid. Which was because of his speech deficits. He is the same vigorous yet modest leader, that he was then.

Dear Jack,

Start your own thread. Just try not to go over the top. It ruins the conversation.

Dear Two,

It is so easy to understand, that it does not have to be continually stated. Trump hates the KKK. But his critics claim he does not in far enough to condemn the group. The only reason Trump is accursed of supporting far right groups, is because he sounds like them. Once his position is known, it is stupid to keep asking him to condemn them. In short, condemning violence to clarify policy is pointless.

You made a different point. That the current trend is so abnormal, that it must be condemned. First, we would have to check the record of who condemned it. Once is enough. Those that harp on it are doing it for political gain. (Which is perfectly legitimate.)

At this point, the protests and riots, have lost their momentum. The agenda-driven activists, have returned to their regular activities. It is clear that the violence is more about a lack of faith in law and order, or truth and justice. The solution is to confront the violence and shut it down. At this time, words ring hollow.

Dear Resident,

The way Biden talks now, is the way he talked over thirty years ago.

Dear Two,

A politician does not have to condemn every act of violence. It is generally understood that the leaders of the state are for stability.
Occasionally, a condemnation is necessary.

1. When it happens on their watch.
Like, the mayor on citywide violence.

2. When it comes from their demographic.
A black councilman would condemn black violence as a way of moving the dialogue away from race.

3. If the violence came from what they started.
A political rally that turned violent.

4. Where there is a combined goal between the politician and those who are committing the violence.
The politician believes the goal is attainable without getting violent.

5. Where the violence empowers the politician.
The politician will reaffirm his faith in democratic processes.

Now, why does every political group have to come out and condemn all the violent unrest? Solving today’s conflicts, is a long and complex process. Why make it harder with endless condemnations that do not solve anything?

Dear Charlie,

I would opine that obesity and malnutrition are more preventable.

If the point is about the choice of the victim, than the answer has to be suicide.

1. We could have a discussion about the Mid East.

2. Trump does not believe in policies.

3.America is immoral because religious leadership has gone AWOL.

4. Maybe Trump could balance the budget like he promised. At the end of the day, he will be worse off than Obama. Nothing will hide a useless billion dollar wall sitting on our border.

5. Trump is as disorderly as there is. He could be in tail next year. If you mean on the streets, he has no clue how to deal with street violence.

6. There are too many anti Semites in the world. Do not confuse your enemies and your advocates.

7. Education?! Are you kidding?

8. The economy does not do better because the stock market has a cheerleader with a toupee.

9. Less was is true. But more genocide.

10. Immigration is more American than free markets. Maybe we should send the statue of liberty to Russia or China.

Dear Resident,

So why does George Bush support Joe Biden?

Dear Ben,

Who is to say that this behavior is specific to yeshiva? Do working boys not smoke and drink? Do yeshiva boys not smoke and drink at home?

Dear Hakatan,

1. The Avnei Nezer does not mention the oaths. It is an extremely broad response. This equals to an out an out statement that the oaths are a non-factor. The origin of applying the oaths, is a direct counter to the A”NZ. From it’s inception, invoking the oaths has been a radical view. You could skew the state any way you want. The fact is, almost nobody was talking about the oaths from Hertzl until the state was declared.

2. The Satmar Rav never defined what constitutes a State. To analyze it as halacha is laughable. Although he provides myriads of sources, very few of them are actual evidence. Most of the writing is responses to basic counterarguments.

Why does an online poster have to condemn anyone? Who is listening?

Dear One,

There is nothing communal about antifa. Personal autonomy is their thing.

For the most part, Antifa is not associated with the current unrest. Why is this so hard to admit? Do you have no grasp of left wing extremism? You could only say antifa, antifa, as If you have a point?

Dear Bk,

“apply their ideology to the world”

The world does not work that way. This is not reality. If anti State sentiment’s bother you, try to figure out what they think. We may as well be discussing a Martian invasion.

These people are dangerous. Currently, they are not a real threat. Protests and riots are not part of their tactics. There is more to the topic. You may have a point. Keep it on point. If you want to talk about revolutionaries in general, than keep it general.

One more point. If the major topic of the day is street violence, than we have to realize all the participants. Singling out one type will do nothing to solve the problem. When you want to stop violence, effective counter measures are called for. Political or partisan rhetoric is useless.

Dear Hbs,

A theoretical question holds a theory. It is not meant to hold water. Yet you are drowning in it. If you have a compelling reason to vote for Trump, than share it? What is the endorsement game for? More members of Bush’s cabinet spoke by the DNC than the Trump NC.

Dear Daas,

The ones quoted in the book, would never admit that they were trying to undermine Traditional Judaism.

The author blatantly attacks upstanding Jews in his book.

The difference is in that the author himself would proudly say he did so.

Dear Syag,

Whether it bother me or not, was neither the question or the answer. I was just offering some pieces for your puzzle.

While we are on the topic, in our day these things are computerized. An algorithm predicts the topics that will be most viewed.

Dear Two,

What can I do for you?

Dear Hakatan,

I posted this before. The Satmar Rav Z”tl did not prove anything. He endeavored to demonstrate why he held the way he did. His points require counter points. Not refutations.

Here is the question to all ardent anti Zionists. If the three oaths are halacha, why was it omitted before Herzl? Why did none of the oilem who considered establishing a Jewish state in the 19 century, even bring it up?

In sum, this book has to rewrite the Jewish discourse in all different arenas of thought. Then he says If you are a Zionist you have to completely rewrite Judaism. Well, it did not stop him. So what is the problem?

The hakofos (First with the Four Species and then with The Writ.) Is symbolic of our unity surrounding the Torah. And reaching a pinnacle with us carrying the Torah into our orbit.

After the events of this year, I will be staying by my seat. Do you have enough integrity to join or stop me?