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The biggest similarity to me, is that they both work quickly to move along their agenda. And they are very good at avoiding making enemies. If the Republicans stay focused on the past election, it will soon be much too late to stop Biden.
On social issues, Reagan was not very conservative for his day. Compared to what the cultural scene is now, Biden is about the same moderate that Reagan was empty years ago. We could look up that happened in the eighties and see if Senator Biden and President Reagan disagreed on social issues.
Reagan has a mixed record on Jews and Israel.
CTL is spot on. Pick any pundit from right to left who gripes about America’s finances. Then track when that shift started and what caused it. You’ll see that almost all of them encourage from Reagan.
I think that 1980 was a much closer election than people remember.
Speed limits are not put into effect because of clear and present danger. There is arbitrary element to them. In fact, there are places with no maximum speed limit. It’s just the way it is. When rules are made, the creators care of some ideas and arbitrate the rest. Going 57 mph is on different the 55.
Coronavirus, flu, Ebola, HIV, are not the reasons for mandatory health measures. Wide spread disease is. The word is ‘epidemic’.
Gerbils are good at escaping. Get a acid that you can control. That is hard to leave almost locked. And easy to open when you are holding the gerbil.
What is going on? I thought all Jewish boys that are born this year are being named Donald?
Dear Avram,
I meant any halachic discussion to clarify a new doubt. Especially among the great poskim. Think of one of the classical debates. Or one of the recent halachah headlines. There is an undeniable element of controversy to them.
I liked the quote from Rav Solovietchik. It means that halachah as both a process and a system leaves no room for strong political or fundamentalist thinking to play a role. Halachah has to rise above whatever we want the outcome to be. If this topic is not halachah per se, it still has a lot to impart on what we think of the halachah.
Dear Always,
You have a reasonable way of making yourself unreasonable.
Dear Avi,
The Declaration of Independence is a letter to King George 3 justifying the Colonies right and obligation to break off of The British Empire. It has no legal implications. It has the same weight as this post.
The Bill of Rights, are ten out of the first twelve proposed amendments to The Constitution Of The United States. The Constitution deals with the separation of powers. All the iOS and outs of government and bureaucracy. In short, that today we call The Swamp. Some paranoid people thought that having a balanced government meant that they would personal autonomy. [Go figure. They had Fake News then also.] To pacify them, John Madison schemed up twelve restrictions of government that the States could ratify. Of which ten were immediately ratified. The paranoid people wanted them in worked into the constitution. Madison merely added them to The Constitution. Thus they became amendments.
They are obviously not God given rights, because then why would the States have to ratify them? And what about the first proposed amendment which is still not ratified? Read through the Bill of Rights. It is hard to even call some of them rights. Definitely not self evident or God given.
How do I know what I do not know, is the ultimate starting point for all human endeavors. And we move forward by doing what yo do. If you have this problem now, then you have always had it. You chose to ignore it, because you do what you do.
Dear Common,
Who is to say that being less welcoming would keep missionaries out? It would definitely keep out real Jews too. And that would make it even easier for the missionaries…..
Dear Avi,
The freedoms of which you speak, are only because they are declared basic rights. Were they to be declared privileges, they would be restrained to certain conditions. Even though it follows it logically follows that they should be the way they are, they still need to be declared as law. This by itself is not comparable to Torah Laws which were declared before they could be followed join a legal system.
As in “naseh v’nishma”.
Agreed. I was being ridiculous. Still, there is nothing for you to get excited about.
Everything I posted boils down to two points. You are way off on both, yet you managed to connect them in your quest to cancel the very site you use.
1. The AP has reporters on the ground in Gaza. After that it is conjecture. Except for the parts that are false.
2. Your petition could achieve nothing. Nobody would care every step of the way.
Dear Health,
Yeah, logic. But who really knows?
Well, I think responsibility dictates the reverse. But we do not need to disagree over it, the Republicans can do both. Right now, they are focused on ‘none of the above’.
“….to make a stand against anti-Semitism…”
22. Making a statement to a frum site is standing against anti-Semitism?
23. There were many stands against anti-Semitism. This one, you think?
24. And your title was, Why are we complicit go violence against Jews? All that is going on. And you are bothered by where the site gets it’s news from. But I guess if not for the street violence, the AP is all that you wish for in a news service.
Dear Always,
These are all known to occur throughout nature. And whey are known to occur simultaneously as well. All these specifics have been observed and studied at length. Except for the last one. Which has – until recently, only been appreciated with HIV. The world has increased it’s knowledge of viruses, maybe a hundred fold in the last year.
Dear HaKatan,
I have never met anyone who is as serious about hashkafah as you just posted, who did not have gaping holes in his outlook. Relax! It is perfectly okay for people to think differently than the way that you prefer. There is no basis to the idea that the average yeshiva person can formulate a yeshiva hashkafah. Or that the yeshiva tradition is more accurate than any other. Or that there is not a serious lapse of truth in the yeshiva version of history. All groups are in the same boat on this. You can not monopolize deep thought processes. Somebody has to actually think then through.
Real spiritual growth and damage is dependant on actions. Yidden did not swarm to Reb Moshe and Reb Aaron because of their hashkafah. Most of those who went to them, knew little of what these two luminaries really thought. They were drawn to them by the sincerity of their noble actions. Observing them for a day is worth more than all the wisdom we can come up with.
Dear Ubiquitin,
I always understand these rights as more basic than just physical actions or state of being. Life means not just that I cannot be killed without having committed. But that the way I perceive it to be mine is not contingent on you or everyone’s agreement to it being my life. Therefore, Liberty means the expression of my life is only required to fit my definition of Life. (We call this today Purpose. But then they had a much larger concept of Destiny than we do.) Slavery and Suffrage fit neatly into this juggling act, that although the individual can define his Liberty as personal autonomy, he is still bound by whatever rules [Even rules that are not enforced or written anywhere. Like basic manners.] society uses in his situation. So his window of personal autonomy is narrowed. But he can still achieve his own Liberty = Purpose through personal autonomy.
Dear Ben,
Hi! It’s been a while. This discussion has a lot of pieces. Birth control has not been discussed much. But there is a lot more to Reb Moshe’s opinion than the little you wrote. Even what you posted does not say much about how women should or could approach high birth rates.
What are the three separate: wrong, against the Torah, and disapproved? What you posted only shows one. Probably the third.
And I have been wondering why the science of infertility is going ignored. Maybe you can help me on that one.
Dear Torahvaluesoverparty,
My whole point is about moving on. Since it has been half a year and we can not even think of specific names, we might as well focus on the here and now. Which is giving clear responses to what the republican idea of government is. Whatever happens in the future, will not depend on reliving the 2020 elections. It is the wrong way forward. And it will lose more elections.
Dear Health,
Is there any evidence that the Democrats were involved. Maybe it was the Republicans. Why do you keep saying It is a Democrat lie?
Dear Avram,
Please clarify. I will clear my end. The major halachic debates, center around a new dilemma or a new doubt. Neither one is possible to have real doubt unless there is some novel circumstances to debate over. Now what are the exact circumstances? They cannot be obvious to all, because then what would be in doubt? Since the scenario is wellknown, how would there not be a precedent?
Once we are debating unknown circumstances, we must get to bottom of what is real and what is clouding our understanding of it. Either we successfully weed out all the pointless information, or the novelty remains confusing and the outcome is founded on a distortion. Now, what were you saying?
One of the main reasons I blog is to be shown when my opinions completely miss the debate. It is a way to grow that is not available [to me, at least] in real life.
Dear BaalHabooze,
Not really. It just looks good in a glass shaker.
“….from using”
17. How do you think this works? Because the AP loses one site, they pull all their reporters out of Gaza. After they worked on establishing a network for over fifteen years, they just dismantle it. And forfeit a million dollar enterprise.
18. Or do you mean that their biases change over potentially losing one site? The AP would lose a hundred customers before ever admitting to any organizational bias on their part.
19. The sites that use the AP have no influence over the AP.
“….and promoting the AP……”
20. How does that happen? The major aggregators look at frum sites for moral direction?
21. In all the news sites I ever looked at, I never say one promoting the content distributor.
“…continues to use the AP”
13. Why should frum sites go all woke over something that almost nobody has any clout over?
14. Nobody attacking Jews heard of such a news site.
15. I assume all the major content distributors have reporters in Hamas. And Iran. And Somalia. And Mars.
16. Do you think the reverse happens? That Arab or Moslem news sites drop their provides over having reporters in Israel?
“…increase of violence against the Jews in Israel…”
7. There was a larger increase the month before.
8. The catalyst for the increase was the onset of Ramadan. And the platform was the Tiktok app.
“……incited and emboldened by the biased media.”
9. Emboldened by the media? Remote possibility. Incited Really?!? It would be way out of line to publish incitement. Can you point me to where I could find any of that?
10. Who is the biased media? You advocated with luckshen that the AP “may be biased” but you do not reveal who was the obviously biased media that helped bring about violence.
11. These thugs at this point needed the media to feel free to act? Is this even trying to make sense? The world has plenty of evil in it that says no heed to what is or is not said about the pain they inflict.
12. In the real world sense! Why are you looking at the media as perpetrators? I feel strongly about shooting rockets at civilians. Yet, I’m not attacking anyone.
Dear Ubiquiin,
I am not a lawyer. And I think you are a lot more level headed than myself. But allow me to clear this up a bit.
Your initial point is so on the mark, That I assumed the OP was only referring to the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution. Not the bill of rights. Those sights are transient and cand never really get the legitimacy of natural law.
The Declaration of Independence lists ‘life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness’ as unalienable rights. Those can never be taken away and are only in God’s hands. And His Natural Law supersedes all other law systems.
Dear Made Aliyah,
That some or all Rabbis say something makes it no more and no less halachah the what some or all Doctors saying something ismakes it a medical necessity.
But I already told you the legal workings behind a mark mandate.
-Deep breath-
Dear Yserbius,
I do not recall saying anything against wearing marks during a pandemic.
All Health Departments were for it. There is still a large degree personal autonomy.
I suspect that you have no position on how to go about wearing masks. You only question others who try to advance some sense into the discussion. I looked through a lot of posts, and I found nothing from your end.
“..that the AP may be biased…”
4. Those reporters are there to report on what life is like inside of Gaza. They are biased to what they see. It is the job of the editor to compare the reporting from both sides.
5. There is a real story of an AP reporter being fired over her past social media posts. Why did you have to make a luckshen connection?
“It has recently come to the public’s attention that the AP’s reporters have been operating in Gaza under the mercy of Hamas, and likely even in a building that was being used by the terror group.”
1. It has long been known that the AP has been reporting live from Gaza.
2. Anyone with a brain knew that those reporters were at the mercy of Hamas. Same as reporters in France being at the mercy of the French. Just the reporters in Gaza are closer to needing to call on their hosts mercy.
3. Every building in Gaza is likely being used by terrorists.
Okay, okay, I’ll respond at length. Although, I do not see any way of talking you down from the ledge, the other side of the cliff is never an option.
I think that Trump is history. If he makes it back to Washington it will be with a new way and a new agenda.
From what I know, no individual has been named in stealing the election. So who are the radicals that you keep talking about?
I am saying that going back and finding out as much as possible is of no help to anyone.
There is still too much noise about the election and Trump in Congress, to say that it is back to normal.
Dear Ujm,
Gershom Scholem is an excellent source. While his conclusions are controversial, and some complain about his writing style, he is totally honest. Maybe too honest. Even his critics admit that he was a big factor in ending the fabrication of sources in Judaic Studies.
Acceptable. If unacceptable, a sovereign country can make their own definitions. And the people of that country have to live with it. Once It becomes deadly to significant portion of it’s inhabitants, the ruling class has endangered their own rule.
Salt. Any brand.
Dear Health,
The Republicans do not want Lindel either. He was just thrown out of the Republican governor’s conference. And both States in this discussion are majority Republican. With Republican governors. Kemp and Ducey.
You really run an impressive zig zag. And your conclusion is utterly ridiculous. The AP would not even take notice if a frum site switched to Reuters.
Well, blogs and chats are not suitable for Bnei Torah either.
Now this thread has gotten too serious. I sense a red herring…..
Dear Avi,
Poverty was only a part of it. Gershom Scholem whites about how local hostilities against Jews, surged toward the end of the first world war. His parent believed it would blow over, even though Germany had been hostile to Jews most of their lives. My point is, That the holocaust and the inquisition were only a surprise to those that were ignoring what was going on in front of their eyes.
Dear Ujm,
Maybe some places. Like maybe one or two. Probably more like zero. First, it meant getting married around fifteen. Second it meant both spouses living another twenty years or so. Also, the marriage rate would be much lower. As one who was not ready to be a mother, was not considered marriageable.
Even in the places where a higher marriage and birth rate was maintained, it does not back your point. Women then did not really have a choice. For a variety of social and physical factors.
Overall, you are still ignoring that infertility as a personal condition, is way more common today.
The people who make one off clicks care. Such a headline is worth the effort. For all ‘the media has an agenda’ types, this is it. These mundane reports are what skewers the direction of the mainstream news cycle.
Dear Torahvaluesoverparty,
What you posted is definitely the narrative. I’m just pointing out a few things.
1. It still is not the most likely scenario.
2. It was weird that he said it. It had already been reported by both China groups. What is there to gain by publicising that the U. S. has confidential reports on it.
3. This last bit that just became public, may have been what Trump read in the report a year ago. It does not mean he was onto something.
4. Trump would have had a lot more success had he ignored the media a little, once he made it into office. Almost every politician manages to do that.
5. He was not beat up that much about it. The issue was why could he not focus on the job in front of him. It was very weird.
6. That this virus was ever in the lab, is still far from proven.
7. We may never know. Or it could take a hundred years.
Yes!
The capability was clear decades ago. And by the way, natural spillover is still the most sensible theory. It happens every couple of months. Nature can overtake civilization at any time.
Dear Participant,
The civil rights bill prevents businesses from discriminating. Free commerce was more or less exclusive to the Reagan Presidency. The two do not really make for a binary concept.
What changed in the discourse is that White America feels discriminated against. This allows a style of presentation that was foreign to the Conservatives of yesteryear. But I think you meant that in recent decades the Republicans have been up front about repealing regulation. Though they still believed in the rule of law. Some regulation is always needed. And now thirty years too late, Congress is getting around to doing their job.