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December 29, 2021 1:02 am at 1:02 am in reply to: Protecting the innocent and false accusations #2045931n0mesorahParticipant
There is no foolproof system. It is very complex. The most important factor is for it to be clear who is the one who makes the call. And that they liberate so much, that there is no possibility that they change their word after they close someone down.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Bored,
Let me explain. There is violent crime in this country all the time. Some get completely ignored. Some are covered endlessly. The majority are news for as little as an hour, up to a few days. What makes one story stick around, is the narrative around the story. If it fits with the daily news narrative, it gets more attention. That depends on timing more than anything else. There have been cars panning into crowds in this country dozens of times. The only one that was a major national story, was a famous person whose life had fallen apart. I think it happened around when I was born.
A little tip. If you want to understand how bias figures into what makes the news cycle, look at advertising trends. Not political rhetoric. On that note, whatever the topic is you’ll understand it better if you ignore the partisan yammering.
n0mesorahParticipantI think the biggest difficulty with teaching is, that they have to be open to a lot of criticism. A teacher must answer to the students, the parents, the parent body, the principal, their peers, the community, and frum online forums. There is zero reason anybody should mind teachers getting paid more.
n0mesorahParticipantIn the recent incident and others, there were rumors for decades. I thought that was the discussion on the other thread. How could we react to heresy? How could we do nothing?
n0mesorahParticipantNope. There never was an exact wording. It was a verbal recital for centuries before there was any widespread textual manuscripts.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Thelittle,
In today’s day, there is not a necessity to work full time as soon as a new couple starts their home. For the majority, kollel is like a bridge from yeshiva to settling into a neighborhood and managing parnassah with a Torah lifestyle. According to the tzedakah organizations, there is not a higher percentage of needy kollel families than working families. Statistically this should change with second and third generation kollel families. But kollel is not hereditary.
The idea of boys staying in kollel only for the image, is a myth. Those are the ones that are too insecure to forge their own path. And they start floating through the system at a very young age. He you are advocating on sending them out to the world at fifteen, I totally agree. At twenty five, it is a case of a married man-child. It is a real problem. And staying in a kollel is the easiest way to manage their lack of confidence.
n0mesorahParticipantYour insect about the racial bias part. Our country is apathetic to violent crime regardless of race. The media sells whatever they can. Nobody forces you to accept it.
n0mesorahParticipantIt took the mods precisely a year to let it through.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Thelittle,
Two things about kollel wives supporting their families. It is generally only a serious burden after five or six years of marriage. A large amount of men are leaving or already have left kollel by then.
And, you post about making kollel more exclusive. I guess the reality is that there are more willing potential kollel wives, than future kollel members.
n0mesorahParticipantI do not see the difference between male therapists or doctors, players, rabbis, etc.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Philosopher,
Not every case of abuse is black and white.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Philosopher,
You ask about judging favorably. For us random posters, there is no reason to judge at all. Just gently absorb the purported information.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Theshadchansays,
You have to experiment. Try applesauce. Pickles. Mustard. Horseradish. Citrus. Etc.
Crush your teeth often. And avoid alcohol and alcohol based mouthwash.
Refuah shelaima!
n0mesorahParticipant😎
n0mesorahParticipantDear UJM,
“….. inability to enforce taxation…..”
More like absolutely no desire to have a community wide initiative to support the community.
I agree with your point, but your expectations are over the moon. There is not enough taking care of our own. To a stupid degree.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avirah,
In EY it may be hard to distinguish kollel from typical Judaism. But the USA models are about klei kodesh or Torah Lishma. It’s mildly insulting to insist that kollel is intended to fill a mere knowledge gap.
December 28, 2021 6:00 am at 6:00 am in reply to: Protecting the innocent and false accusations #2045566n0mesorahParticipantBeing able to fully understand the topic enough to get straight to the point, would help the public conversation immensely.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
That idea of not learning alone, is referring to a much higher caliber student than this discussion.
n0mesorahParticipantI thought the conundrum goes like this.
A good techer is generally one that can teach year after year. Meaning, that the school is set in that Mrs. X teaches fifth grade and we do not need to even think of who would replace her. As well as her teaching methods are not stuck in a certain time period.
Therefore, teachers pay starts of small. Because they do not want to incentive teaching as a year by year career. It is better if there is growth by staying in one school.
Also, unqualified teachers will not be able to try it just for the money.
Schools have the ability to not raise the teachers after a certain point, because they would have to start over in different school at a lower pay. Though I have been told that this is an exception.
But this is old hoc.
I hear that the problem now is just a shortage of interested teachers. Every business is short on good candidates, and education is no different.
n0mesorahParticipantDear UJM,
You, of course! I’m going to dye all my clothes right now…… Well, first let me figure out what color maroon is.
Let’s play this one out. You come to Mincha one day dressed like that. Your every day close friends will ask and you will say that is your style. What choice do they have? Are they going to throw you out? Same with your family and everyone else? If your comfortable, what reaction can you get? Besides if your comfortable they have to be comfortable. I can’t be outraged that you are wearing what you think is appropriate.
There will be some who will yell at you and claim to know the exact reason why you dress this way. They will insist you were caused and are lashing out. But these people are the most insecure in our community. I know. I work with them. Nobody else wants to. And they have zero cultural impact. So, when the crowd becomes dulled to your get up, those that were outraged will come up with some reason why your choice of dress is within the typical boundaries.
December 27, 2021 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm in reply to: Zoom Solution to the shidduch crisis (not dating) #2045210n0mesorahParticipantDear UJM,
When I last posted, I remembered my pledge and found that thread. Your recollections are far superior to mine. I see that I was really in middle of the sugya then, I would have to get back there. In the meantime, I apologize.
n0mesorahParticipantThere was never an intention to have perfect unity of minor textual differences throughout the Jewish communities. At least not until very recently. The further back you go, the larger the discrepancies in the various manuscripts. This is well known.
n0mesorahParticipantThis was an excellent read! Though it is quite the contrast from then to now.
n0mesorahParticipantWhen someone dresses differently (differently – not provocative or rebellious) the majority acclimates to the new levush almost instantly.
December 27, 2021 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm in reply to: Zoom Solution to the shidduch crisis (not dating) #2045221n0mesorahParticipantDear UJM,
There are entire groups of older working boys that barely even date. The point is that they need to date younger because they do not age nearly as well as learning boys.
n0mesorahParticipantDear UJM,
While you are looking up that Rambam, maybe you can look up this one as well.
n0mesorahParticipantLet’s first see how Desantis survives this election cycle.
Sad, but Scott Walker is not coming back to politics.
Unless……
And either way no Gomel from me.
n0mesorahParticipantWe could all rant and rave about a hundred things that our youth should or should not be doing. But if they do not ignore us and return to their books, there would not be any youths to yell about.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yabia,
I’m not sure what you mean. The litvishe kashrus organizations are not at all extreme. In fact, Charlop is the prime example of a hashgacha falling out of favor for not being extreme enough.
n0mesorahParticipantIsn’t it something that none of the other posters set aside any time in the last month to dig up this post? Surely, this is an issue that must be resolved immediately!
The Mishnayos are listing matters that take precedence over others. The Bull Offering of the Kohen Gadol comes before the Bull Offering of the Community. Next Mishna. Man precedes woman to sustain life. (What does that mean?) To my scant knowledge, not codified anywhere by the RAMBAM Matters of shame the women comes first. But if both are facing indignities the man comes first. Codified by RAMBAM M”A 8:15 Last mishna. Kohwn before Levi et cetera ….. This when they are equal. ….. talmid chacham precedes kohen gadol am haaretz.
Nowhere does the Mishna discuss life and death. At most it can be stretched to preserving a life. But nowhere is there even a shred of thinking that people should die just to prove a point about hierarchy. In almost all scenarios triage exists to create the highest possible efficacy of saving as many lives as possible. How many cases are there that insisting on a hierarchy will not hinder in saving lives?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
They tell me I need to get beaten up a bit before I get married…..
n0mesorahParticipantDear Bob,
Way to go! Never manage your anger, lusts, fears, or sloth. Do not overcome your limitations or emphasize your strengths. And if nothing gets better, that is exactly the way Hashem intended it to be.
n0mesorahParticipantFor all those who may be slightly interested.
Remdesiver is a new drug. Therefore, it had a big edge in being approved against covid. There is no risk of people who depend on the drug having to overpay for a medicine they need. Additionally, Remdesiver was the only drug to get real results out of it’s first large trial. Though after that it was more of a mixed bag. The FDA approval did not really amount to much more than another relatively safe option. Without the approval, Remdesiver would not have been available. To my limited knowledge, this is all due to complications of insurance in the health system. Both billing the patient’s insurance and what is allowed by the malpractice insurance on the caregiver’s end.
But in the end, there is still no magic bullets when it comes to viruses. Plenty of fluids, rest, and constant monitoring of symptoms, is what we have. Supportive care.
n0mesorahParticipantDear 1a2b3c,
Talk about Judaism in reverse! If it is okay whatever permitted the practice in the first place, (Rabbi, Sefer, Theory, Online post) than that ipso facto is an allowance for whatever feelings one has. On an issue about feelings, one goes to a professional therapist. A sefer cannot help you with what your feelings are.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avirah,
For all you and I know, all the yeraim and shelaimem have been getting these procedures for decades. They just have the decency not to talk about it. Now you can go make a whole ruckus about it, and the very people who you are holding up as examples will join your cause, because they do not see themselves as perfect role models. (They will think that their role models must have told you that.) and it will be one more detail of the yeshiva world that gets changed by your ignorance.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yid,
Of course there is a good in town shidduch for you! But if you want a specific kind of good, than you’ll have to be lucky or look harder for it.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Lostspark,
A true talmid chacham, benefits much more from a learned layman. Some earners that do not learn, give very little to supporting Torah. Because they have no idea what to expect their donation to achieve.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
What makes you think the Rambam is talking about a working person? From the preceding halachah, it seems to be talking about someone who is learned, and wants to continue to study as much Torah as he can.
n0mesorahParticipantThere used to be a very interesting group of war survivors. They were known as The Holy Jews Of Tel Aviv.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
What would make us think that you are not getting kickbacks from these two drugs that you have been yapping about?
Dozens of drugs have been repurposed in the battle against covid. You and Didier Raoult are the only two epidemiologists in the world who claim that medications – can turn the tide against a pandemic. Whoops! Raoult is a microbiologist. That leaves just you. A little bit suspicious, if you ask me. If we join your crusade, will you share the wealth with us?
December 8, 2021 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm in reply to: Zoom Solution to the shidduch crisis (not dating) #2039529n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
There are four options for young boys in our community that are no longer learning. They marry early, fake it in yeshiva, become unmarriageable, or leave the fold. Those that thread the needle, are pretty much invisible. So yeah, they do not appear in any case.
December 7, 2021 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm in reply to: Zoom Solution to the shidduch crisis (not dating) #2039126n0mesorahParticipantOh woops! That would mean a solution for the shidduch crises that does not involve stopping yeshiva bochurim from learning. What was I thinking? The mods better take that one down before we are all excommunicated.
December 7, 2021 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm in reply to: Zoom Solution to the shidduch crisis (not dating) #2039123n0mesorahParticipantBetter solution. Stop ignoring younger non learning boys. They are available by the dozens.
n0mesorahParticipantDear DBS,
I think that there was more or less an agreement that bachurim should learn all of nach. Yeshivos do not mandate it, because they believe that the bachurim can decide how to manage their side limudim on their own. Much like they do not mandate learning halachah. Why more talmidim complete Mishna Berurah than Navi is a fair question.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
So one that never learns Torah, should omit how many blessings?
n0mesorahParticipantHere is the flip side. Those who learn their seforim, do so with more objectivity. Because they are trying to really understand the authors as opposed to just putting them in line with all else that they have already learned. Some of the most revered seforim would benefit from controversy so that we would take a fresh look at the authors intentions.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Akuprma,
Did Huju read what you wrote correctly? Please explain.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Smerel,
Compared to then, there are not really that many Jewish causes. It’s not complicated.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Bored,
You got it right! To paraphrase from Rashi, Doug Emhoff is not your friend. He is your brother.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
From what I know, the MO community is very into dress. Was he tucked in? His brim was too big. How could he wear the same shirt twice? Why does it have to be a black hat? Next year everyone will be dressing like this. In the old days we wore..
Dress matters less out of town.
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