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n0mesorahParticipant
You seem to think that the insurrection took place long ago😜.
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n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
I never heard me a therapist that has a waiting room.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
Your little story is gobbledygook. Get the name. It could easily have been said by someone who is very pro the constitution.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
No political party is consistent for 75 years. And sadly, the Republicans seem to find no reason to legislate when they have had the chance.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
I understood the OP as discussing the most common debated topics. There is a whole set of topics, that are based on never attempt to uncover what is real and what is just talk. The point was not that one side of the debate is wrong or lying. The point was about believing things that are just complete stupidity.
People quote unbelievable things that they read online to me. Whew insist it is true, they even saved the source on their phone. I ask to read it. And it becomes clear that they only read the article. They never bothered to check how the writer misunderstood the sources.
To tweak the OP a bit. It is sad how many Yidden are believing of ideas, that are actually the ramblings of someone much less intelligent. For example, Mike Lindell is clearly not able to digest even a small fraction of the information he shares. Yet, there are some highly educated and successful people that believe in knows what he is talking about.
n0mesorahParticipantDear User,
The BLM mindset was heavily probed by some really bright people. There was no solid take on what it is, before history ran it’s course and it became it’s own sustainied movement. So please tell us, what is the BLM mindset? And do you even try to make sense with it being a threat to democracy?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
It has been on my mind all year. I would guess that it was the most mentioned and googled date of the past twenty years.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Jack,
You had a good point. But you mangled the history. It is only one year later. You forget that besides for social media banning the President, almost his entire party abandoned him until after he left office.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
That is an empirical thought. It follows that it does not take much to prove the exception. I know of men that da’atan kalos is an understatement.
n0mesorahParticipantDear The Wolf,
See above. Really. The point was that the patient needs to really get into themself. The setting must be private and with a sense of security.
Just to be clear, a therapist can not lock the door or use an out of the way office with a patient of the other gender.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
I think that you know my posts to be generally non-partisan when it comes to other people’s opinions. I do not share your take here.
You are correct that people who take on these claims that are based on the utility of the claim itself – as opposed to the factors that are at the root of the claim, do indeed think it through. But they are only thinking of how useful the claim is. Like how it could be proven, or how it could be used in an argument.
However, there seems to be very little thinking of it is actually true. In many pleasant conversations with all kinds of card carrying conspiracy theorists, it is a matter of course that they did not bother to look up the sources and proofs. Which in today’s day, is no more difficult than clicking on the link. The little information that it takes to sound knowledgeable today, is astounding.
In sum, while people from all sides of the national conversation are insisting that they have looked into and thought about what is actually a wagon load of falsehoods, it simply does not cross their minds to check if it ever even happened.
In short, just because they are using their minds it does not mean that have any way of discerning what truth is.
Thank you for listening.
n0mesorahParticipantThe lengthy statement givin above if nothing else, is at least consistent. The originator, seems to have a narrow view of all the issues discussed. Obviously, when it comes to dealing with the larger issues that effect Jews across different countries, there is very little sound advice. But the concern being addressed is how one Yid staying in his corner should or should not / must or must not react to these recent events.
My reason for sharing on this, is that people think that our clergy intentionally prevents this and other issues from being dealt with. This statement demonstrates, that the originator never considered it for more than the occurrence that it was. The same approach is being utilized to the internet and media in general.
There are many people who prefer to avoid this topic. An equal amount will do almost anything to properly address this issue. This message is being directed to the former group.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Correct. It is more stringent for a therapist, then an MD. It is similar to a rabbi.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avirah,
I have laughed at more shticklach Torah from men it the past year, than you have read from women in your whole life.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yehudis,
In your case, since there is a threat to everyone, each person is entitled and possibly obligated to put their own safety first. And once someone gets ahold of the life saver, it would be forbidden to take it away from them.
n0mesorahParticipantAdditionally, that opinion of the Mishna Berurah is not relevant to this discussion.
n0mesorahParticipantThe Mishna Berurah is in 547:12, not 22.
n0mesorahParticipantDear The Wolf,
If it does not make the patient think twice [There is nobody to look through the window.] It does not change anything. If it does, than it will hinder the therapy. See above.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Daas,
It does not solve either problem. See above.
n0mesorahParticipant“This is one of the least discussed topics and yet perhaps the one that needs the most attention”
Modesty is the opposite of needing attention. Calling our attentions to immodesty, does not promote tznius. This is why most good Jews just stay on the sidelines. Those that are loudly promoting tznius, seem to think the same as those who are immodest.
I’m sorry if your really bothered by modern trends, but encouraging public discussion of such trends is counter-productive.
n0mesorahParticipantThis sentiment comes up in society, and then slowly shrivels away. The reality is a lot that we do, we have no reason for. When the questions start building up, the questioners get shifted into the least intelligent parts of our society. Shidduchim. the real course of action, is to just not conform to the stupidity. And you will see that almost nobody really cares.
n0mesorahParticipantThe trick is what to do with yourself on a day the yetzer harah is getting to you. Either get to your gemara first. Or your physics book. What ever fills your brain. Or, humble yourself big time.
n0mesorahParticipantIt’s not a big deal. Just keep your mind on what your doing.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
It sounds like the studying of Torah is superfluous.
n0mesorahParticipantAsk him. The mesivtos in Lakewood claimed that he insisted.
n0mesorahParticipantDefinitely possible. Father and brother too. What they would be doing out here, is anybody’s guess.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
I apologize if I’m reading your posts wrong. But there is not that much of a gap between kollel and working families, when it comes to government programs.
I think it is safe to assume that Lakewood has the largest amount of kollel families. And a large amount of young working families as well. Which families use which programs depends on personal choices besides kollel.
A decision about HUD is usually made around marriage. Those that take it, are limiting their choices of where to rent as well as not being able to buy if the opportunity arises. Since a large amount of Lakewood families look to buy before they leave kollel, this program is more stage based than saying something about kollel.
Jersey Care has a very high threshold, especially for large families. If you have private insurance, you probably are paying full tuition. There are those that squeezed by their employers and the schools, which is totally wrong. But that has nothing to do with kollel.
WIC is time consuming. Both the initial WIC appointments, and the WIC approved shopping. It is mostly used by younger families that have one parent available to make a trip out of it. And it also has a high threshold. Serious kollel men, drop WIC when it starts taking up too much time.
SNAP is probably the most associated with kollel life in Lakewood. Still, at some point most families will either not be eligible, or they really are short on money for food.
There are some other programs that have very low thresholds, and are only used by those who are actually poor. Which is not exclusive to kollel.
There is school lunches and meals on wheels for seniors. As well as making your house tax-free or special ed. Which all are not specifically relevant to kollel any more than the working family.
I have to stop here. I’m forgetting what the point of this was. I cede the floor.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
I was not referring to the Mir. No-one I know goes there.
n0mesorahParticipantDriving on rural roads, NYPD horse patrols are far from my mind. It is the same for woman’s body parts. Are you sure you are a admitted Jew? What is on your mind when you drive?
I can not describe to you any of the horses or people I passed while I was driving today.
n0mesorahParticipantOkay. It does not explain anything, but I understand.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
I have no idea about the Mir. I can’t even say if they have any boys left.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Why does it bother you if non-Jews live in E”Y?
n0mesorahParticipantWhen I cross the street, I attempt to keep my mind on crossing the street. If I see skin, I have better things to think about them the gender. For sure I have no way of knowing if her knee is showing.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Random example of the top of my Should the emphasis be on purely an obviously moral dresscode or should there be mindfulness not to be too obviously different….. Etc… I really do not care………
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Yes. Sadly for even more petty infractions.
n0mesorahParticipantReb Elya Brudny insisted on using Zoom for the mesivtos that are under his tutelage.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
Okay. I just object to telling people they are not invited to a shul.
n0mesorahParticipant😄😃😀
Witnesses have clout before they enter the court. There are many Talmudic discussions about this.
And your assuming that what the din me a witness should have bearing on the facts. Then I’m surprised that you did not point out that they are female, and not valid in court.
But obviously, the fact that you can not testify on your own behalf, does not make you un-believed. The laws that pertain to what one is allowed/must believe, can be found in hilchos loshon horah. Not choshen mishpat.
n0mesorahParticipantIf we squint while shaking our heads, wow legitimizes NK.
n0mesorahParticipantI’m confused. The Older Roshei Yeshiva encouraged Zoom for yeshivos in lockdown.
n0mesorahParticipantAnd just to be honest, the world has changed so much in the last two centuries, that it is really difficult to extrapolate what would be the preferred way to dress today. I’m not advocating for any leniency or stringency. Just humility.
n0mesorahParticipantHow would a Jewish man know if a Jewish woman is covering her knees or not? I mean an observant Jew.
n0mesorahParticipantYou can force people to realize that they are not entitled to a shul being set up for them. They can bankroll the entire budget, and it still makes no difference. Our shuls are built on shared community. If the community has to present you with your desired shul experience, do Hashem a favor and stay home. Do not make Him feel disinvited from the one place on Earth He still desires to go.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
From your posts on this thread, I would think that you find that rationale to be misguided. If there are no drawbacks to only same gender therapist, then it should be advocated regardless of the recent story. There is no reason to think that this would have stopped anyone. The most likely reaction will be fear mongering about therapy.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Participant,
That is an assumption. And truthfully, it is an incorrect one.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Now that is a minority opinion! Do you waste your life trying to get every program you can?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
You simply never bothered to check out who these programs were crated for, or the criteria needed to qualify. Nor do you have any idea which programs are popular among kollel members and their families. There is no reason to stop now. There are starving children in Zimbabwe. Probably because of kollel.
n0mesorahParticipantNo financial support, or on emotional support?
n0mesorahParticipantPerhaps the people who run the place want it this way.
If you have some clout in this shul, than here is what I would advise.
Before Maariv at the end of Shabbos, take all the Seforim that are around – especially siddurim – that were not put back and stack them all in an out of the way corner. It will be frustrating for them, and an easier clean up for you.
Keep it up for a month, if nothing changes switch to before Mincha and stack the Bimah to the ceiling.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Yes we can thread that needle, and promote same gender as a better option for all kinds of private counsel. But it should not be confused with a conversation of preventing abuse. Even though it may have a positive effect.
Does anybody know how common it is for therapists to have a same gender only clientele? And, are there any disadvantages? Are there scenarios where opposite gender is preferable?
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