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Suspension or cable stayed?
So who used your screenname to post about drinking the fourth cup after the first alos? Is there another GotAGoodPoint? Or is some sort of misunderstanding like a second alos?
Come outback and see what real traffic delays are.
Dear Ready,
1) If the cult in question contains no idols than that prohibition cannot apply at all.
2) One can study a cult to see if it contains idol worship.
3) Even with idols, there are exceptions to this prohibition.
4) How would anyone know that a cult contains idols, if they could not study it?
5) I still do not see any reason why you insist cults are forbidden.
6) How do true beliefs exclude cults?
7) How do we know that a cults beliefs are not true?
8) How does the true belief reach us more that it reaches a cult.
“Judaism is the one true belief.”
How do you know that. And how can it be explained as such.
Dear Hakatan,
Thanks for the response. Assets and politics is not a State. It is impossible to tell me that a Jewish State is against the Torah, without knowing what a State is.
I am less of a Zionist then you and all the other horsemen of the empty wagon. There is no need for a few Yidden from Poland and Ukraine to remake history for me. Most yidden know that Judaism thrived before, during, and after Eastern Europe. If you would have retained some objectivity, you would realize that you and your ilk have co-opted all the talking points of Herzl and Weizmann and whatever. Too much time fighting Zionism, and too little thinking.
Say whatever you want about the here and the now. You have no right to deny all the Jewish blood that was constantly spilled in unthinkable numbers and unimaginable ways. I know enough to know that you have turned your back on as many of our ancestors, as any anti-religious Zionist. There is more to Hashem’s world than Pro-and-Anti-whatever-Jewish-identification-is-fashionable syndrome.
Dear Avira,
If your litvishe roshei yeshivos stayed, why would he be the one to leave? Are you insinuating that mashiach can be enticed by mixed parties?!?
Dear Chaylev,
In other words; we have as much connection to the Byzantine Empire, as the Davidic Dynasty has to Modern Zionism.
Or you can threaten your multiple personalities that you will take away their multiple profiles.
Try to stay out of it.
I suspect your selling because all the volume is one way and coming back. Please confirm that there is high volume both ways.
I have wondered if there is any people that do it in a good way.
Rav Elchonon HY”D was not alive during any Zionist State. Not the Davidic, Hasmonean, Herodian, Agrippian, Kochbian, or even The Modern State.
Dear Hakatan,
You came. You lied. Now run away before we post the truth.
YWN is interested in owning the naming rights.
Dear Syag,
“proselytizing”
Good Point.
“proselytizing frum people”
It’s newbies who are clueless. Or old hands who are clueless. None of the staff in any of the T”T that I went too, cared about my observance etc.
“representing Judaism to a lot of people in very public ways”
This irks me too. Now what is there to say or fix?
“I disagree”
I’m not asking what makes them care. My question is, what makes them think that it is something to do with if they are heretics or not. As if some haskafa battle will reform Chabad.
““public” walk away thinking”
These things are beyond human control. I’m not all-powerful. You may be, but at least you will not admit to anything like that on these pages.
The title says yisreal instead of yisrael. Very, very, important.
Dear Avira,
I did not mean theology exactly. I meant proper hashkafa.
They do not apply God-like existence to the Rebbe. They say their Rebbe does the same ‘activities’ as God. Every Jewish group says that about their leaders, as they well should. The difference is Chabad teaches what it means to say such things.
I can’t imagine what kind of parade you would troll Brooklyn with.
Dear Syag,
[There is so much money here, that I do not see how who is President will impact it. As much money as can be thrown away, will. Who does the throwing is insignificant.]
Yes. It is mandatory lip service by every politician. Biden also mentions it. I think it was somewhere in the State of the Union address.
Bridge owner.
Can you keep it open to the public during the marathon?
Dear Smerel,
I have been in Chabad shuls and yeshivos all along the East Coast. That includes many all nighters. We’ve had many great conversations, because so little is out of bounds for Chabad. They start off guarded, because they do not like getting attacked. The group that really likes theological arguments, are yeshivaleit. The fact of the matter is that they have the same perception of Hashem as everyone else. Which should be obvious. Because even the most exacting thinker can’t understand God better than you me. The human brain can only fathom an awareness of Him. Nothing more. Creator, Designator, Law giver, Judge, Manager,Owner, etc, these are terms that discuss what He inacts and impacts. Not what the Essence of God is.
What Chabad does excell in, is teaching how Hashem’s world works. They are much clearer and better prepared to discuss these ideas. What they lack, is how these very teachings apply to everyone and everything beyond those who are studying them. Basically, Chabad’s scholastic approach, only focuses on what matters to them. According to what they think is their life’s mission. They do not think much of what everyone else should be doing. But everyone else seems to have a lot to say about what Chabad should or should not be doing.
Dear Syag,
I’m not sure what you mean. If your saying that Pfizer has a higher political will than profits, I disagree. If your saying that Pfizer stood to gain by the political outcome, I agree with the premise. But I have no imagination of what the benefits could possibly be. If you mean that there is some politicians than can sway Pfizer, I think that that is totally untrue. I also know that my opinions on this are not well founded. It is nothing but my own assumptions.
I doubt any political personality has enough clout to force Pfizer to do or not do something.
Dear Ready,
What we are permitted to study or not, still does not define a cult. Most cults never heard of the Torah. True beliefs and cults are not mutually exclusive. And true belief and Judaism are not the same thing.
Dear Coffee,
Exactly that. I read through the chabad thread. Also, I left before I answered this query.
Thanks, Ujm!
Don’t you agree that that is much better?
I think the Court intentionally leaked it.
Dear Ready,
There was no idol worship allowed among the Esennes. [I think I have the right cult name.] Changing the Torah is not the same as denying Hashem. And neither has anything to do with the definition of a cult.
Dear Always,
Both your posts are historically accurate. I’m not pro Trotsky or anything. It just bothers me when an absolute murderer like Stalin is downplayed as just an effect of Communism. Trotsky was not outlawing his comrades. Then having them exiled and assassinated. He also did not commit major purges or starve the peasantry.
Absolutely no comparison.
Sorry, almost no publication would have turned this down.
Dear Cs,
What do you mean by “your identity”? If I see that it is all Hashem working through me, what them is my identity? I’m just seeing Hashem’s activity. Where would I see myself? I can’t see myself where I see Hashem.
Dear Common,
I think a thread offering to sell a bridge will get many responses.
Dear Avira,
Stalin did not care for communism. There is no indication he understood any of it’s doctrines. Of course none of Marx’s predictions came to pass in his day – or even in our days, the tensions that he examined and uncovered are still present. The question is if the ideas of the classical State and classical Government have solutions for them. If not, revolution is humanities best hope…….
P. S. I’m not giving an ultimatum for humanity. That was Marx’s teachings. And one hundred fifty years later, we have not yet refuted them.
Dear Always,
It is not hard to measure. Stalin used bullets on his political opponents. Including those that were on his side. For Trotsky; it was words. If those words gave you a nightmare of more bloodshed than Stalin, you have a wild imagination. So wild, that you imagined your being reasonable.
Dear Yserbius,
Stalin has nothing in common with Marx. Absolutely zero. Marx and Abraham Lincoln can be compared to each other more than Stalin to either one of them. Stalin wasn’t communism at all. Murder doesn’t require an ism.
Dear Ujm,
“must do her husband’s will” Please quote correctly.
Dear Mdd,
Okay, I get what your saying. But for the purpose of this thread, it could actually be something else. Of course Christianity is not one bit acceptable for us. Though maybe it’s more meenus or prikas ohl than a”z.
What’s Orthodox? I’m a Torah Jew. My actions are my focus. Not my views. Unless I’m teaching Torah. Then correct views/understanding receives priority over actions.
Dear Avira,
I read it. Thanks! (By worse, I took it as by denying more of the essence of truth more of the true form is being distorted.) I have no dispute with how you posted it.
Dear Avira,
Are you canceling Mr. Lindell?
Milhouse is correct in how he quotes Rav Moshe’s opinion. The real purpose of cholev yisroel/ cholov stam is to seperate those that do basic research from those that do not.
Would you say the majority in 2011 were Goyim?
Why did it get moved from the issues forum, to decaffeinated?
How is Trotsky – or just about anybody, worse than Stalin?
Followers, supporters? This is not sports.
My hunch is that the court realizes that making a ruckus about it this way, will defer the riot over the court’s decision. From what I read of it, this is not a full victory for the anti abortion camp. It is along the trajectory of the last twenty five years.
In short, this is an issue out of a tissue.
Dear Gadol,
I was not awawre of Lindel always wearing a tzelem. That would definitely deter The Chafetz Chaim from being aware of him, even prophetically. Respectful Apikorsim are always allowed their opinions. Especially if they sign their posts with such a disclaimer.
Dear Bored,
Not what you think. What Marx thought. Unless you mean the Boredteenism branch of communism.
Dear Avram,
“Devarim 13” Nothing there.
I appreciated your long post. I read before Shabbos and will have to read it again before I respond.
Dear Avira,
“They learn for themselves… benefits the world” Very true. Additionally, in our purview, nothing can be understood – or even demonstrated – without having studied the Torah.
Dear Avira,
I do not recall such a Rambam. Please can you tell me where I can read it myself?