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n0mesorahParticipant
Dear Avira,
This is all fuzzy research. Asking uncles who hock too much and aunts who think they have a better memory.
Some points. Fallsberg claims to a Bais Hatalmud creation. And Sav Elya Ber does not call himself a talmid of Rav Aaron.
Stamford moved to Monsey or near it. I’m not sure if it’s similar to what it was. I do not know who the money was, but it definitely was not Rav Meir. And I’m not sure he would know much about who Rav Aaron honored or didn’t.
Obviously, Rav Chaim Epstein’s yeshiva is a good a source as there is for Rav Aaron’s opinions. But I’m still guessing off of what I gathered from hearsay. I have no source that this is intentional to any of them.
When I started asking, I thought I would get more chessed organizations. But it was too conflicting. Like people who were born into not frum families that stayed close to the Jewish communities. Or the wealthy that used their wealth on others, but were not otherwise noteworthy role models.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
1. Minhag Yerushalayim has been contentious throughout history. It does not do anything besides pushing off change a few years. It couldn’t even prevent Shabbtai Tzvi from enacting whatever he fancied.
2. I’m not promoting Zionism. And I’m for sure not advising anyone to go up on the temple mount. But that beyond all the personal views, there is a bona fide halachic dispute on the matter. I know this second hand from someone trustworthy.
3. Politics based on Torah sounds like an oxymoron. And I hope you know that nobody is practicing it. A very small amount of askanim claim to be doing it. But nobody asks their opinion in any other area of Torah. And this includes those that have a small following.
n0mesorahParticipantAnd what if nobody wants to hire them?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
How would a job fill whatever their lacking?
June 27, 2022 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm in reply to: Chaveirim, Yidden, and Lomdei Toirah, be malveh me your Oznayim #2100812n0mesorahParticipantDear Yabia,
Brisk does not idolize the Rambam.
I did not know that Hebrew was the Rambam’s first language.
Your critiques of the yeshiva are more sensible than some of the other posters here. Still, you assume that the Yeshiva is on the inside what it is to those outside of it.
June 27, 2022 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm in reply to: Peer pressure is not just about people feeling pressured. #2100797n0mesorahParticipantDear Coffee,
I gather that you didn’t feel like commenting.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Young,
1. Hishtadlus. Not needed here. Let the general public try all the social experiments they want. It has no meaning to me. Why would any yid with a strong foundation even follow this nonsense?
2. Policies. If Washington had not been non-functional for the majority of my life, this may be worth discussing. But the fact is that our elected representatives to the collective bodies of government can’t govern. Nor can they be collective. They can’t even represent anymore. Now they are moving to the point where they can’t even be fairly elected. In this climate, policies are just fuel for bigoted cultural discord. The sensible person would take on whatever position is less inflammatory. Even if that means ‘supporting’ something that we personally find abominable.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gefilte,
I’m trying to say that there is a lot more nuance to a statement from chazal than just it’s conclusions. That chazal used the science of their day, as well as a great Chacham can be on the wrong side of the evidence, is not a question to me. It would take a lot more than that, to negate a single statement of any two-bit-talmid chacham. When a statement is preserved for centuries, it is worth putting in the effort to uncover what ever insight can be gleaned, even when the reality of it is in conflict with known phenomena.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Rav Hirsch was using a scientific position which is now known to contradict thousands of known phenomena. This not a questionable matter, as Rav Hirsch himself says that we would discard our theories when they are not in conformation with even one known instance. You should follow the truth that Rav Hirsch was not stating that this is an eternal truth. He was understanding the science based on what he knew from the Torah.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
Modern means or telepathic ones. Who cares? It’s not a question of how to separate who is really shteiging from who is just sitting. People know the difference. The issue is what do you say to someone who is just sitting and not learning?
This requires a real and intelligent response.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gefilte,
The problem with Rav Leff’s pshat is that then the Rambam in Shemita is discussing his ideal. But what is he in practice? If it’s the same reality with a different ideal, how can one be ‘holy of holies’ and the other an embarrassment to religion?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
Kollel is not the modern day front lines. Leaving your family most of the day to go teach Torah somewhere is. As well as moving out to be a rabbi in middle of nowhere.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
I did a lot of research. The rumor is that Rav Aaron had such a standard for his yeshiva, but held that it did not apply to other types of mosdos. I’m not sure. Take it or leave it. This seems to hold up somewhat with the honorees of the BMG dinner. Though I was told that Rav Aaron himself made an exception once. Some Lakewood Yeshivos put a good face on the effort. Some don’t.
Here are three that seem to be genuine about it. Bais Binyamin of Stanford. Maybe that’s why they had no money. Yeshiva Zichron Moshe of South Fallsberg is said to have such ideas. They don’t have a regular dinner as far as I can tell. Zichron Meilich has a dinner every year, with such an idea.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
And your problem with that thinking is that you believe it is one and the same. By your way of thinking, mitzvos are just Torah based political thoughts.
June 24, 2022 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm in reply to: Supreme Court Rules – States Can Ban Abortion #2100086n0mesorahParticipantThere will be more abortions next year than any year in the last thirty years. Which fits well the neo-conservatives idea of morality.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Young, and?
If we really value The Torah Way, how do you feel threatened by a political figure cheering on some unintelligible social celebration? Even if he is the President.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Big,
The discussion in those sources is about teaching Torah to women. That means that the students are female. Not what gender the teachers are. I would discuss either with you if you try to get anything straight.
I’m not ranting. The fact is that Sefaria got their translation from Steinsaltz. In your view, what is the difference between lying and research?
The problem with Haupttman is not that she is a woman. She, and nobody like her, had any impact on their translation of the Talmud.
There are no mefarshim on that page. Only links. Can you answer if you played her song, and why you decided to click on the embedded video?
I looked up those pages from your first mention of them. I’ve been calling your bluff the whole time. Here’s a tip. Before you make outrageous statements online, think what would happen if just one person with a different view takes the time to check it up.
n0mesorahParticipantBecause you refuse to recognize the hostility of the world to morality in general and Jews in particular, every aspect of Torah, Mankind, and History, is subject to change and up for debate.
How sad.
June 24, 2022 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm in reply to: Chaveirim, Yidden, and Lomdei Toirah, be malveh me your Oznayim #2100033n0mesorahParticipantI think it’s the opposite. Our yeshivishe shprach lends itself to a lot of ambiguities. It covers up for when we don’t know what we are saying. Being that for most in yeshiva today English is our first language, our brains would have a clearer understanding of what we can put into clear English.
I’ve heard people ramble endlessly trying to make a point in some yeshivisha sefer that could be succinctly put into one sentence. The general grasp of subject matter in the yeshiva world today is terrible. We talk about ‘ameilus’ and ‘iyun’ and ‘lomdus’. How about ‘havanah’?
n0mesorahParticipantBe a Yid on your own. Don’t expect the goyim to do it for you. We would have ceased to exist long ago, if we had subscribed to Judeo-Christian values as the basis of we are.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
Beware of your own advice! It may apply to you as well.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
Those that go onthe temple mount also have their own Rav.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
“You can’t pull a “different strokes for different folks” in Judaism when halachah is not being followed.”
I can.
Lakewood Yeshivos eat before tekiyas shofar.
Briskers don’t fast on the regular fast days.
Chasidish men shave their heads.
Stolin davens the whole pisukei dizimrah out loud.
Many people daven Shacharis late in the morning. And Mincha after sundown.
Some light the menorah inside, others light outside.
It is common to dance on Shabbos. Just about everybody dances on Simchas Torah.
There is a widespread minhag to eat inside on Shemini Atzeres.
Sometimes, different Jews do things differently.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Rav Moshe did not tell his sons that they were doing things that he held to prohibited. He never thought of himself as God’s policeman. Maybe he left that for you.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
It is much more expensive to clean sand oil. Guinea has only high sulfur diesel. They have zero refineries. It is all imported from Europe and the USA.
Any way you want to have it, the sole purpose of the Keystone Pipeline is to send Canadian oil to Europe. The parts that service our oil infrastructure is all built. Almost none of the locals want that last phase. Especially after they saw what happened in Texas and other States.
n0mesorahParticipantRabbi Tendler is on par with the average ‘talmid’ of a great goan. Because Rav Moshe’s main talmidim all kept a low and humble profile, he stood out. Unfortunately, it is the norm for the next generation to extend – and in rare cases even distort – the positions of their Master.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Nice guess. But Rav Moshe at times didn’t dissuade his sons from not doing things he held were prohibited. Proving what Rav Moshe’s opinion was from his silence is a fool’s errand. Rav Moshe did not assume he was Hashem’s enforcer on Earth.
June 21, 2022 1:50 am at 1:50 am in reply to: is Yeshiva system making talmiday chachamim? or stifling them? #2098789n0mesorahParticipantDear The little,
In a nutshell, understanding and in some horror stories – even cariñitos about kids, is not a prerequisite in Chinuch. To be fair, it is hard to see in a potential teacher, how good they are at understanding. For some reason, in today’s day it is not so simple to fire a Rebbe.
June 21, 2022 1:50 am at 1:50 am in reply to: is Yeshiva system making talmiday chachamim? or stifling them? #2098788n0mesorahParticipantDear Shimili,
Back in the day there were a number of posters that really knew their stuff. What percentage of boys that enter the yeshiva know how to really learn a sugya? Is it even a quarter of them?!? And how many of those did it despite the yeshiva, and never conformed to the ruach hayeshiva?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
Biden’s dread is to make oil companies responsible for their own solvency. So that they do not end up like the coal industry that is reliant on internet subsidies to turn a profit. That way when the time comes to go one hundred percent electric, all the oil and coal could end. Right now the government could work on the margins of gas prices. But who will it make happy when has hits seven dollars a gallon at the pump instead of nine? And, Saudi Arabia will laugh at us and drop the price through the floor. Like they did at the end of the Bush years.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
The oil from Canada is too dirty. That makes it unfit for domestic consumption. The Keystones pipeline is to send this oil through the USA and on to international markets with lower fuel standards. More fuel there, does not correlate to cheaper fuel here.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Amom,
I’ll make it even simpler. It’s more profitable for companies to sit back and say they will produce, than actually producing a product and selling it. It sounds ridiculous for the oil industry to say that it is hard for them to sell their oil, so they blame government regulations. Which is true. But after fifty years, it’s about time that they come up with a business model that is profitable off of it’s own realities.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
Most of the Keystone that we have, was built under Obama. Now, if only it would be used at capacity, or if that oil would be usable on American markets…..
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
What proverbial sands are you referring to?
The government spent two billion in the 2010s and was posed to “lend” over five billion last year. I don’t know what happened to that money now that Biden canceled the cross-border permit.
n0mesorahParticipantFracking is no longer a partisan issue. It’s all tied up in the Courts. The oil industry knew it was a legal gamble to not apply long standing legal norms to new methods of drilling. Now they have a bunch of useless infrastructure. But their happy. The public already paid for it twice.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
Keystones is both a pipedream and a punchline. The government should spend trillions building a infrastructure to freight oil across the country from a place it may or may not be extracted to a place that it may or may not be refined. Also, the infrastructure should than be privatized, and those private companies should not be obligated to use it.
If you like the idea of massive government projects with no accountability, than in keystone. Otherwise, just lower taxes on gasoline.
n0mesorahParticipantWhat’s happening is the Fed needs inflation to offset all the crazy borrowing of the last twenty and eighty years. There is no stick happy ending to this one.
n0mesorahParticipantIt is only arrogance when you are sure that you can never be wrong. Unless you think your a god, there is always that probably.
n0mesorahParticipantHi, Cs!
Avodah Zarah 9a. Tana dvei Eliyahu as well.
n0mesorahParticipantMaybe that would be a way for your posts to lose capital.
June 20, 2022 8:33 am at 8:33 am in reply to: is Yeshiva system making talmiday chachamim? or stifling them? #2098453n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
A start would be if parents would make an effort to collaborate with the teachers to know what is going on in school that they don’t see at home. As well as to share what they see at home.
June 18, 2022 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm in reply to: is Yeshiva system making talmiday chachamim? or stifling them? #2098141n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
We have very little investment in terms of the parents taking note and displaying interest in how their kids spend the day or what they value.
We have even less investment in parents showing their kid’s educators that they value the effort being put in. And that their kid’s growth is of utmost meaning to them as parents.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
I have. You haven’t????????
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
We should follow the truth. What is so hard to understand about that?
And the truth is that is not what the passuk tells about doctors. In your realm, you just gave faith to doctors as opposed to trust.
June 17, 2022 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm in reply to: is Yeshiva system making talmiday chachamim? or stifling them? #2097978n0mesorahParticipantDear Yabia,
The modern day yeshiva was a Lithuanian creation. It’s brand was it’s superior products. It never had any marketing until now.
June 17, 2022 4:24 pm at 4:24 pm in reply to: is Yeshiva system making talmiday chachamim? or stifling them? #2097973n0mesorahParticipantDear Always,
The entirety of our chinuch system needs a lot more investment – and not just financial – to produce the results we expect.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gefilte,
I hear you. But using the national guard on the riots was a last report. It makes it worse. The best method, is good policing right away. But policing was the problem to begin with. Mayors were caught in a bind without a solution.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Hmmmm. I hear you. But I’m not convinced.
Anyways, the Rambam is intrinsic to disagreeing or denying the Torah of the Chachamim. It’s not saying that you lose your olam haba because you had a raiya that they were mistaken.
n0mesorahParticipantArmed insurrection – the Metropolitan Police made two arrests for bringing guns into the Capitol. One rioter attacked the police with a metal flag pole. Fifteen of the rioters charged with violent crime had weapons. Not to mention the many that were there and never detained.
n0mesorahParticipantThere have not been reports of arms – this is paraphrasing the FBI that they did not recover any guns in the Capitol.
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