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Dear Kuvult,
That is a fine approach for people like me or you. But the OP is asking about an organization that is dedicated to this topic. It’s not really the same thing.
I’m re-reading your last sentence and not understanding it.I just checked out the ADL website. They have a bunch of statements against Tlaib and Co. Somehow you missed all of them. Or perhaps you forgot. In that case we should be most concerned about memory-biases.
Trump doesn’t read YWN. YWN is a niche media outlet, not a political tool.
Your case lacks standing.
You may now be seated.
And you retain your right to silence.Dear Ubiquitin,
I was trying to understand your post. The letter seems to be intentionally inexplicable.
Convince yourself first. There is always time to not examine the issue later.
“You’d be hard pressed to find someone in Lakewood that speaks Hebrew.”
Completely false statement.
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“Shelo Assani Moderni”
I assume they would be referring to yeshivaleit that need to constantly justify their outlook to the world as well.
Chazal did not see the truth as a threat. They were fine with being made aware of more information.
Haskamos as a must? In the times of the Ramban?!? Preposterous!
Dear Ubiquitin,
I’m not getting your differentiation.
Rashi’s intention does not seem to have been pshat. At least in contrast to Ibn Ezra, Rashbam, Ramban, etc.
Also, bringing other perushim keneged Rashi is commonplace. Maybe even more so than bringing Rashi as pshat.
My deepest apologies to all the age-gap proponents, but your time is up. You have had two decades to prove your point. You claimed to have all the data to back it up. Yet, you couldn’t ever confirm that a proper survey was transformed to an actual study. The founding ‘fact’ has never been demonstrated to be the driving factor of the ‘crisis’. Graphs with no real mathematics, was not enough to convince the masses. And of course, how your ‘solution’ is not at odds with the age-gap ‘fact’ of the ‘crisis’ has never been addressed. Enjoy a nice break, while some other crowd tries to educate the public without trying to be educational. You could use the time to catch your breath before yelling at the sky again.
with much sympathy,
All Yidden That Can Manage Their Own Lives.PS If you are anxious that yeshiva bochurim may continue to learn in the interim, there are many other groups dedicated to stopping them. You can join them for moral support. They will be glad to take you in because they are in desperate need of your faux-sincere facade.
What kind of menuval wants a chareidi news site to report such stories??
[Or even post it here. Is this what you talk about in shul? Your shabbos table?]
The layout of the sefer seems to be designed to encourage the study of Chumash with Rashi.
“….. identifies itself as Jewish…..”
Are you insinuating that being Jewish can be achieved by mere self-identification? If not, what’s the problem?
“During the times of the Bais Hamidash ….. there was (a) halachic rule over the land…”
Possible. I would be very thankful if someone can provide a real source either way.
“Yes you can force people to become frum.”
Most liberal statement of all time.
A strong country is one that unites to a common goal. An enforced standard makes a country appear. If anything, it makes it more vulnerable.
Dear Coffee,
Even if fresh fruit was checked, nobody knows what is inside it until it is opened. If there is a worm in your apple, a hashgacha won’t help.
There have been kashrus alerts about unusual infestations; so somebody must be checking.
Most people I know, look at their food before they eat it.
The fruits that are hard to check, are figs and dates.
Oranges are easy to spot. Some might not know that it’s insects.
I don’t think I’m saying a chiddush.
Butit still needs to be clarified where it came from. There are also handling issues that are better with official oversight. Especially when it comes to Pesach.
Cashews, dates, and figs, and other fresh fruit, should always be inspected. Many leafy vegetables need to be checked. And anything packaged requires the packaging to be intact. This includes dry goods.
Dear Nisht,
I never shared my views on mesorah. The reasons are generic, and the examples are unclear. I happened to have been in the room when one of the rabbonim was being briefed on this sefer. The OP asked if anybody knew about it. So I posted what I know.
They are affirming that there is not an invisible issue. (Terumah, Arloh, etc.) Insects can be seen by the consumer. Anyways the consumer has to inspect for infestation that occurs in after it was released to the market.
Dear Coffee,
Does the hashgacha intend to certify that there are no bugs?
It’s on par with most of what gets published today. There isn’t a reason to single this sefer out. The press that is geared to the yeshivaliet today, has very little safeguards. All seforim are self-moderated by the authors and publishers. This cherem is not about content. It’s a spinoff of another chareidi schism.
“who knew and trusted”
Let me correct that to read ‘Who knew the Torah’s requirements of what is reliable’.
Let’s try the reverse. Can The Moral Police be an effective kashrus agency?
Dear Syag,
It wasn’t definitions. It was saying how the same words have different meaning according to certain narratives.
I want to check out all the missing years in history.
How many posters have been active for ten+ years?
Dear Avira,
I asked you what is the parameters of Torah. What type of statement is absolute truth and cannot be debated?
Dear Smerel,
The Jan 6 committee wants some cooperation from the Justice Department. Neither is hiding anything specific. It’s the correct way to build a case.
Dear Always,
It is called overthrowing the government. Same as what happens go the Far East, Africa, and Latin America.
Three differences from a classic coup are: 1. Some of the conspirators, including key figures, asked for pardons or planned a judicial defense in advance of the attempt. 2. Nobody thought of what to do if Pence etc. wouldn’t go along with their plans. 3. There was no safeguards to prevent things from going me the rails. A successful coup needs some discipline.
What does it show? That even when it comes to holding on to power, people without personal virtue will not think enough of themselves to do what actually works. Always looking for it to be handed to them.
Dear Young,
If Liz Cheney, is not a real Republican, than who is? Maybe Karl Rove And that’s it.
You could twist the world upside down. It doesn’t change what the Republican Party was for forty years.
There were many great Republicans who served and yet considered ‘owning the libs’ beneath them.
Today’s hearing posits that Trump thought he was running an actual coup. There is no more missing pieces.
Could it be that one of your personalities thinks he’s a cat?!??
Oh please say I’m wrong on this!
Dear Yabia,
I’m sorry. I ruined a good line.
Dear Yabia,
Oh, I get it. Brisk does not follow the Rambam in such a manner.
Dear Avira,
I’m not parroting anything at all. I see that we agree on what is a higher truth. I’m just not willing that every word of chazal should be considered Torah M’Sinai. And I don’t see the sages of yore thinking differently. I believe that you think your position is Kovod HaTorah. My disagreement is based on that the Torah’s honor becomes dependent on you – the understanding student – being correct at least in the majority of instances.
There is no way for me to know if my argument is getting through to you and ignored. Or if you missed it. Or if you think you answered it. Let’s take this somewhere else. In your last post, you made a claim that the Rishonim do not disagree with Chazal’s conclusion. You also threw in a disclaimer. In your approximation, what statement would a bona fide talmid chacham not proclaim? I’ll respond to that if I agree or know of a universal rishon that makes such a statement.
Dear Common,
That’s new to me. Do you know details?
Dear Rocky, are you satisfied with my response?
Dear Gadol,
Oh no! The first option will fill this world with mindless trash-sorting zombies and the second will send all the pollution to the world to come. The only way to be maleh all the nitzotzos in our waste is to wash it out well to the point that it is reusable. Than pile it up in a pyramid. Douse with gasoline. And sent it up to the heavens.
Dear Common,
What did you clarify?
Does Fallsberg make a dinner or not?
Dear Common,
A real value is about what you value. Not about making any statements. What value is making a statement?
I’m really bewildered.
Dear Always,
It’s a much deeper issue than that.
Dear Avira,
I purposely avoided the whole evolutionary dialogue. If you aware of how the science of the Genesis shifted in Rav Hirsch’s day, and even more so a hundred years ago, you would know how ideas formed in the old thought system would age into today’s science. Even the atheists don’t think that evolution is anymore a problem for literalists. But still, I carefully avoided it. You seem to be stuck on Rav Hirsch’s scientific knowledge, not just his conclusion.
Now this is just a retort from you, but it is my main point. You can only operate the way you claim to be correct, by controlling the entire narrative. It won’t work for you to accept something you understand to be incorrect to get clarity on a different part of the dialogue. You have to be right everywhere, or else risk being disproven on some point. In sum, you don’t have a concept of truth as a guide. You work on the assumption that the conclusions that we are aware of are the Truth. And that defines the guiding concept by force of it being true.
So this is my problem. The idea that chazal’s conclusions are absolute truth, would require us to accept them as unknowable but true. Or to arrange our knowledge around these accepted truths. The problem is that the Rishonim did not use either method. Rather they had two fountains of flowing into one river of Truth. Knowledge – the five senses, logical deduction, known observation, etc. And the Torah. As in revelation, prophecy, and tradition. When it was unclear to them, they state their dogmas. There many instances of questioning and doubting chazal. None of them insisting that chazal’s conclusions define the truth.
Dear Avira,
Rav Elya Ber says he is a talmid of Rav Meir Mintz, if I recall the name correctly. He may choose to follow Rav Aaron’s ideas of fundraising. But I would guess that Brisk has an even more stringent opinion of who a yeshiva may honor. In any case, as far as I know Fallsberg doesn’t have a dinner.
I’m not sure Stamford ever had much of a dinner. But I would guess that approving the honorees would be the extent of it. And even that much may have been left to Rav Simcha.
Dear Mods,
Can this be moved over to decaffeinated?
Dear Sam,
I was feeling pressured to have to buy things that are cheaper than I can afford because others weren’t buying them. I’m off now to get my corvette. Maybe I’ll sell you my mustang cheap. Thanks!
Dear Always,
What if he has enough to eat? What if he is worth double the net value of the average person with a PhD?
Dear Avira,
My argument with you on this topic is that this is not that kind of statement. And if you think it is such a statement, than you should really look into it, and then say “I don’t care about all this evidence. Call me a fool everyday.”
It’s more that just saying such a species is no longer known. It’s tracking almost every one else a species and knowing their entire habitat. This could be parsed a lot. Is the American Jaguar the same species as the Mexican Jaguar? (I’m not sure if I got the right cat. I’m almost sure it has a different name for north and South.) What about when a new species is brought about temporarily? Like a certain type of dog or monkey that is engineered for lab experiments. A few dozen are developed, and are not replaced.
It also has to do with finding fossilized creatures that are no longer known to exist. When we study the historicity of extinction, it is debatable if even species that are common today, can be considered coming from an extinct ancestor. The cows we know today, are in no way similar to the taurus described by the ancients.
The science Rav Hirsch was using, assumed that since a dog did not come from a horse or vice versa there is nothing similar about them. Their brains, nerves, organs, are all different. The only similarity is that they are both animals and can be classified differently than the owl, turtle, or otter. This has been mostly selected. It is now known that there are many similarities in species that have no connection to each other. Some of these are found in a bunch of random creatures and are not found in any of the species that are extremely similar to them. This completely changes the implications of extinction from that it was in Rav Hirsch’s day. It’s not just a lo ra’inu.
As I write this, I realize that maybe I’m stepping on some toes here. Was this one of the Slifkin ‘debates’? I’m to young to know the majority of them. And I find his blog condescending and without much of a point. Most of his questions that he calls obvious proofs are satisfactorily answered with a shrug.
I would tell you what the scientific consensus on this topic is. I’m just unaware of any. Nobody could prove either way if a species is ever really extinct. Wherever the dodo bird came from originally, it could theoretically come from again.