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Dear Ujm,
I think Jack is incorrect. But your statement is not any better.
Dear Avira,
So your admitting where it’s a matter of universal (not just the temporal fashion) etiquette, than it’s not a problem. All humans benefit from each others health and happiness. So that just about cleans up the original comment. (Which I still haven’t bothered to find.)
One question. Would be a problem to daven for my client/employee ‘s health? If they are ill I would lose from it.
Dear Always,
I don’t know how to read your last sentence.
Attempt one; at twenty people don’t go OTD. False statement.
Attempt two; the current education gives young adults their passion for Torah. Huh?
Attempt three; all this schooling is just to keep the students in the fold. That is a low bar.
Attempt four; it’s just a way to ensure our communities continuity. The more schooling the better community.
Attempt five; the schools aren’t trying to produce the next Chofetz Chaim or Chazon Ish. Neither of these two luminaries were produced by the equivalent to the schools of their day.I really have no idea what your trying to say. Kollel is about the individual dedicating his time to learning as opposed to his own spiritual growth. That B’nai Torah that are shteiging should spend as much time as they can to conquer all areas of Torah, was universally recognized for the past two millennia. The creation of the kollel centers around a different idea.
Dear Common,
As far as people would place their trust in it.
The whole idea of Chabad is not to view people (who act different) differently.
Four years later, and I still don’t understand.
“It’s best to travel the world and witness the reality of this world”
So how much did you travel?
Dear Dofi,
I missed your response to me. So I apologize for that last post. You are telling me to get real, and I can assure you that I am as real as it gets. Chabad – even activist Chabad, has gotten better about conforming to the halachic standard of others, For this reason, they are called on by Rabbonim across the spectrum of Orthodoxy to intervene in these critical matters so as not to leave a vacuum to the activist – and sometimes militant non orthodox. The fact is that many more Jews trust Chabad Organizations today. The majority of the YV had nothing but disdain for them, but relations have thawed and ideals have mellowed. The open eyed among the yeshivishe elite, have an eye to deciphering what Chabad did right.
You can stay in your cocoon and wait for some Chabadtzker to get caught in your AHA! trap. But the fact is, that they have successfully moved on, while we remain confused. As weird as it sounds, every (shteiging) Chabad Bachur that I met, is much more in touch with the real world than any of their counterparts. Their only youthful passion is the Rebbe and Toras Habaal Shem. Mir, Brisk, BMG, YU, et cetera, all wish their youth would have that passion.
Bump
(I did not get a response to my resume.)
Dear Dofi,
For the record, I insist that Mashiach must be a Cowboys fan with a taste for sushi. Now start a petition thread to get me banned. If that doesn’t work, as a last resort you have my permission to post something intelligent.
Dear Zaphod,
I submitted on the wrong page. Can I get a rant on how college is a kugel?
PS I confused ‘sophistry’ with ‘sorcery’.
Dear Bot,
Who is Benjamen? And why do we not discuss Beeblerox Inc? It seems to me that Zaphod is the best hope for humanity.
Nah. The best chance is to go to an online site, and call out to random people that they should call out to hashem. How could anybody not see that???????/!@#$%^&?
The debate I alluded to was about including a specific non-Jew in one’s thoughts during the Amidah.
Dear Avirah,
I didn’t read the post. Causes of the Holocaust are for the small minded.
Dear Avirah,
Davening for non-Jews was one of the early Hassidic debates. I don’t know how much of the liturgy you discarded over this one. By now I know that it is not worth bringing proofs to you from what Yidden actually did throughout history.
Dear Avirah,
The metzius of a yid, doesn’t make the vegetation or animals not a creation of Hashem’s handiwork. How can a human not be seen as such too?
Dear Avirah,
In context ‘a Jew in the house, a German in the street’ meant the opposite.
Dear Coffee,
I assume that normal etiquette isn’t a problem. Yaakov blessing the Pharaoh isn’t any different than saying good morning/good night on the commute.
Dear Avira,
I didn’t realize it was a poster and not the article. Okay. Forget the hashkafa for a minute. Do you think it would help the situation in the article? If it is a naive approach anyways, why bother with the hashkafic ramifications?
Dear Avira,
The Reformers wanted to gain social acceptance and financial prominence. They weren’t being altruistic about improving the situation for their fellow Jews.
Dear Gadol,
There are thousands of frum couples and thousands of life stories. It’s a series of binary choices. The real open-ended question is what is sufficient funds.
I disagree with your assumption. Kollel is mostly a life stage and not a life-long plan. Almost everyone in kollel [I am not discussing Israel. Totally different.] now, will have left to join the workforce, when their kids are in kollel.
And the kollel wives all have some form of employment at some point. I have never heard of any kollel wife that never worked in the modern day [Again, not counting Israel].
What a strawman!
Dear Dofi,
Considering how you go on beating your dead-beat drum, I don’t see why Chabad should not continue with their mantra.
The people who keep raising the issues with Chabad have done absolutely nothing for klal yisroel for the last thirty years.
Meanwhile, Chabad’s utility, keeps expanding. All parts of Orthodoxy, are increasing their reliance on Chabad for matters of Geirus, Kashrus, and communal organization.
I know one frum family that is heavily anti-Chabad. They are natural leaders. All they do for the community is regular secular stuff. What a waste.
Dear Avirah,
Today there can be found many mentions of connecting and beseeching a dead tzaddik.
Dear Ujm,
I don’t get the point of your list. It doesn’t have to be a known figurehead.
When and where did he speak the truth?? [How was it true before he spoke of it?]
Dear Yserbius,
I didn’t move the goalposts once. I did not say any cause or solution to this problem. It was you that kept lying. I was just pointing that out.
And I was doing that for a reason.
The Educated Modern Orthodox wonder why Lakewood as a whole does not appreciate their advice on matters which they specialize in. This post is the answer. This is a very difficult situation, and those caught in the middle are asking anyone and everyone for ideas. People who have been living in Lakewood for the longest time, do not need advice on how to deal with Lakewood. Yet, you and some other posters went on and on about Lakewood in general which has no relevance to the current dilemma. I know a little about what is going on from second hand sources. You seem to know way less.
If someone who is better educated on the topic doesn’t seem to care for the facts on the ground, than nobody will care for that better education. I sincerely hope this clarifies for you why there is such a barrier on ideas, between the MO and the yeshiva world. Personally, I hold no animosity over it. And I suspect that the YV does the same in a reverse scenario to the MO.
Dear Always,
It’s not a lack of awareness. It’s a lack of interest. It would take a major influx of resources that almost everyone agrees are better suited elsewhere.
Also, try to separate the two topics.
1) Following in the ways of Dovid Hamelech.
2) What does it mean to say that tzaddikim die?
Obviously for this one instance the two are intertwined. But that will be easily solved if we ever come to a consensus on each one separately.
Hey, I’m not rich!
Dear Ze,
Just because he let himself believe there were people out to get him that did not actually get him, it doesn’t mean I have to believe he did anything worth honoring him.
Dear Fellow Posters,
We can have a fun shmooze so long as we don‘t take this topic too seriously. The Rambam clearly says we don‘t know how the events will play out. And it‘s not even considered Limud Hatorah to discuss how it may happen. The main criteria is ‘a descendant of Dovid Hamelech who goes in his ways‘. If you think that any specific Jew is disqualified because of the latter phrase, please keep it off this site. It‘s a very high bar, which can be analyzed in an general manner. Let‘s not carry on pulling apart all the great Jewish Leaders to see how much they worried, cared, and acted on behalf of all Jews. And if you are not aware how Dovid Hamelch himself was a fulfillment of said phrase, kindly excuse yourself from this topic. If you are unaware of the initiator, than don‘t attempt to describe the culmination.Dear Cs,
I am very impressed by your ability to be so candid on this topic. I have the utmost (virtual) respect for anyone who can post like you do. Thanks for coming back!
Dear Bot,
Please elaborate.
Your conflating completely different ideas.
אל אחד בראם is not an endorsement for assimilation.
Your theory of German Jewish History is not accurate.
I don’t know where to find the article. What exactly (not a general feeling) did the author suggest that is in your opinion forbidden?
Just to be clear, I do not endorse assimilation in any form.
Dear Always,
You seem very lost on the topic of kollel. The responsibility to the kollel is not the same as the responsibility to learning. Some very basic halachic differences.
I think you have the blank space and are looking for the solid part. The dead have no connection to their own graves. It is for the living. So, it’s possible to achieve the save sentiment by any other ritual.
1. Yes 2. Not supposed to but sometimes yes 3. No you change the mode 4. Not that I know of
You can also have it go into Shabbos mode manually and not automatically.
To avoid any heartbreak at all, the only solution would be to check DY before the shadchan thinks of setting them up.
Dear Bot,
You are completely useless here. We already have Beeblerox Inc.
Dear Always,
The fellow had been driving behind you for miles while you pointed out all sorts of things to your children. When you suddenly braked and veered toward the median to point out a sleeping skunk, he was fed up and went around you. You got flustered, and confused his dash-cam for a black hat.
On Deism as an Approval of Free Will.
I have posted on this before, and it is not what I intended to get into on this thread.
To deny both the intervening power and divine consequence, would obliterate this cornerstone. (I have – on other threads, opened the possibility that there is another, unique cornerstone to Judaism that does not involve theistic dogmas.) But what if one goes with an either or approach? It seems impossible, and may very well be the death knell of rational thought on the matter. However, the whole exercise strains our philosophical capabilities to the max. I understand this to be the intention of the Raavad.
My point in bringing up Rav Chisdai was to demonstrate how much the goalposts move. There is a bunch of gibberish (that is difficult to refute) that claims that the great Jewish Philosophers were against orthodoxy. Just because the modern philosopher works against antiquated ideas, it does not mean that he disrespects antiquity.
On religious literature.
I agree that it’s sacredness is because of it’s immutability. I don’t agree that that forces it to be read a certain way. Just the opposite. Because it is enduring, it can be read many ways. I don’t know what this implies for a treatise, that was out of circulation for centuries or that was secret manual that is now publicly available. The Zohar can serve as a loose example of either scenario.
But anyways, just a mere insistence that it can be – or even should be read as literature, is not a denial of it’s metaphysical truths. It is just an obvious reference that Herder was likely not initiated in those same truths.
On misunderstanding.
Well that makes two of us. My point on this thread, is that the anti-Semitism that is found among many communists, is not directly linked to Marx himself. (Or even Marxism for that matter.) Ditto for every philosopher and movement mentioned in this thread. [Though Nietzsche may be an exception to my dictum. Did we mention him?] Please read my posts with some background as getting back to this paragraph. I did not start with any other concrete position. Also, none of this is recent reading on my part. I’m just going off what I know. So I could be completely mixing things up.
And I agree with Maskil. You are very impressive for this site. Which is of the most impressive open forums on the internet.
1) Some guns are a necessity for some areas of the country.
2) And a frivolity for certain neighborhoods.
3) Certain guns have no use outside of a combat zone.
The abolishment or containment of guns should center around the third sentence.
But what use is good sense when it comes to talking policy for our diverse melting pot of a free-thinking media-parroting partisan/independent gentleman’s shouting match?Commas were edited out as a form of evidence. -1776
Dear Avirah,
My apologies for bringing this unpleasant topic back. I was offline since before Yom Tov. If you want to move my point away from the general conversation, you can concede that he made a request of Rav Chiya which is not the same as davening to him. I don’t know if it is a good enough answer for the topic and I don’t care. But I am very sure that if you would have an actual recording of the Hienteger that when he dies it’s time to let go and realize that we are mere mortals, that it would have zero impact on any Meshechist.
Now to the gemara. The thrones moving on their own can’t have any relation to the Malachim Omdim of Kedusha. That would a more flagrant kefirah than we have here. I think you were just inferring, but I don’t have any reason to agree with you. Yeshiva shel maalah is past the decorum stage of honorable existence. I made that last sentence up. Please give me a sevara to the opposite effect.
With that admission. I don’t see anything in the gemara about chutzpa. It seems like his human eyes could not stand up to the eternal light of Rav Chiya’s Torah. A mashal would be to stare into the sun for a long time would burn our eyes beyond repair.
Oh, it’s obviously Menetrier Disease.
If I recall, the Yated does not use the title Gaon at all.