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May 1, 2023 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2185901n0mesorahParticipant
Dear Ze,
it is a big world. People die all the time. Even those that are young and perfectly healthy. I know it’s scary. Your mommy can explain it to you.
PS There is a statistical model to show any increase in deaths. There. Don’t you feel better already?
May 1, 2023 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2185900n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
I contacted the Beis Din. This conference was not them. And they never issued such a psak.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
Online reviews?!? That is what you call research?!?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yechiel,
Bad comparison. Age doesn’t make people less self-centered.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Zaphod,
The Tyler Durden reference.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Menachem,
The section of Kisvei HaAri that the letter quotes is the same section that has the erroneous passage discussed in the letter to Rav Zevin. Why the Rebbe chose to keep this myth somewhat intact, is a mystery. But his intent is clear. He is associating the day with Penmius HaTorah, as opposed to just the day Rebi Shimon died. Why there is a day for Penimius HaTorah is beyond my understandind. And I wonder if he really believed it to be. What the Rebbe is really asking for, is that we all commit to understanding chassidus and bringing it into reality.
n0mesorahParticipantThe reason why these kollelem are not in high demand, is because the participant lose out the close affiliation of their respective chassidus and it’s network.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avirah,
פן יש בכם….. is referring to Bittul Torah. Or rejecting the Torah.
This is basics. The problem is Yidden that reject everything and don’t keep any of the Torah.
No matter what their approach is to understanding the world around them.
No matter if their culture of art, dress, food, .. mimics the world around them
That is two separate sentences because they are completely different. And either goes just as well with the opposite of the other. You have been making one mix out of all this. Maybe because your opinions don’t stand on their own merits. So you use them to prop each other up. The only result is that I end up attacking your well meaning ideas more than I want to. You are not doing any favors to yeshivishe hashkafah by drawing such heavy lines and then trying to knot them in a bunch.
The fact of Tanach is that, the Yidden completely rejected all of the Torah. It’s study, obligations, meaning, and purpose. And in our day this is still an ongoing fact.
Stop making it about ideals and culture.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
I’m still waiting on your historical evidence.
I suspect your taking someone else’s perspective as history.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Qualifier: All the atheists I know, think of themselves as less empowered. If anything, they are calling us idol worshippers when we believe that so many different things are benefitting (us) on our behalf.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
In light of the Chazzon Ish, what are your feelings when you daven?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
The Rishonim explain what the prohibition of a”z is. The Rambam, and the Rishonim on TaNaCh.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
I don’t know why you brought up atheism. It is a bittul aseh. (Or two.) No malkos. No kores. Have you lost your mind?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
But the tochacha continues… and then goes on… and on… Besides for all this verse bending [Which is not at all how chazal understood it.] if it’s just ideology, than how is there all this descent? Either we understand it and think it, or we don’t think it. How can we understand it and not think it?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
אמר נבל…
I very much agree.
A vain person is convinced that there is no power that holds us accountable.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Then why is there such a thing as a murderer? Hashem created murder and endorsed it for some scenarios and forbade it in other instances. So the murder is just the act of a sinner. Really?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Menlo,
I was pointing out the reverse.
April 28, 2023 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm in reply to: The official ASK Chat GPT ANYTHING thread!!! #2185178n0mesorahParticipantDear Zaphod,
Thanks for choosing our support group!
But for some reason it doesn’t seem to bother you that I am a fraud.
These inter galactic stuff don’t work in normal ways.
n0mesorahParticipantAnother point. That you could cause a major letdown for a very ill person.
n0mesorahParticipantBeing that my pet thread is getting perverted by rants about college, I have decided to bump this while I wait for my mail to be picked up.
While I’m here, I must point out that while college may be a kugel it can never be considered heimesh by anyone with real standards.
n0mesorahParticipantSalt.
April 28, 2023 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2185156n0mesorahParticipantDear Yserbius,
I thought it was so. But one tiny correction. The official Beis Din didn’t directly put out the statement. The B”D of Crown Heights is of the opinion that they only address medical questions with the advice of doctors. So instead of officially announcing it, one member of the B”D put out his own statement.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Cs,
The letter discusses how it is from a mistaken edition of the Eitz Chaim. This has been noted by many, including the Chida. As to which day he did indeed die, it is entirely an unknown.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
I checked their site. No idea what your talking about. What was the title of the research?
n0mesorahParticipantI really have no interest in going over the whole thread to show how I never change my mind or moved the goalposts. I was careful what I posted because I predicted this whole thread. If the title would have been Teen Violence, the thread would be very different. Even though it is an issue in many communities. If anyone would bother reading through the first three pages, the biases would be clear enough. But to be extra clear, anybody with even a slight knowledge of what is actually going on, would be incredulous at the notion that this has any relation to the Lakewood stereotype.
Everybody please rise.
And now to my coup de grace.
Teen Violence in Lakewood
OP: Are we going to pretend it doesn’t exist and hope it goes away or do something proactive?
My immediate response: Neither. We are going to pretend it was someone else’s fault and wait for them to take responsibility.
Don’t bother looking it up. That would be out of character. Pontificate as you will.
Law enforcement was discussed. But it is not going to really do anything. [Being a jerk does not send someone to jail. Even if it can be called assault on the books. Get on the street a bit before you try responding to this.] security is an expense and it will not address the specifics. [..] Nobody bothered to think about the problem.
And this is the root to all these communal problems.
By it’s very existence a community will always be more varied than it’s ideal. This leads to the fact that some would aspire to something not common to larger group. If everyone would be allowed to grow into whatever version they please, then there would not be any community/communities. (And that may be fine. I don’t know.) But to disallow aspirations to outside the norms, just cuts the ability to grow and with it – the most novel chances for positive transformation.
None of us, showed any interest in these teens or the adults that are dealing with this. We just looked for confirmation to our own worldview. Who do we think we are to subject random kids that we never met to be nothing but mere justification for us to spew our values in public?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Amil,
Everyone involved is interested in keeping it quiet. It is a very delicate and complex issue. The details are not widely known. Even your one sentence description contains inaccuracies.
April 28, 2023 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2185129n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
There was no State of Emergency to bypass all laws. That would be Martial Law. That didn’t happen. I know. I was alive then and remember it well.
In your opinion, what is the definition of the word ‘vaccine’?
Can you post where I can find out about this conference? I never heard anyone mention it.
I don’t understand why you consider this an experimental treatment. The companies conducted one of the largest trials ever before they received Emergency FDA approval.
Several different vaccines became available about the same time. Is that what you mean by everyone was injected with different stuff? Or did you mean the change in dosing? Or the delivery agent?
How does getting a covid vaccine violate the right to live?
The fundamental rule you reffered to, is: cause no harm. Not abstain from care.
I don’t understand why you mentioned masks.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Cs,
A letter to Rav Sh”Y Zevin
From chabad org
I Will Write It In Their Hearts vol 4
An explanation of the death of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai on Lag BaOmer
Letter No. 485:n0mesorahParticipantDear Cs,
Citations doesn’t take it out of the realm of theory until those sources can tell us why it is so. And these sources are all after the fact of lag baomer, so they don’t signify that this was the purpose. It’s just the way of explaining what is already custom. That is theory. I didn’t celebrate it growing up, and I still don’t.
The Rebbe was adamant that lag baomer was not the day rashbi died. it’s a misspelling. It reads, the day he rejoiced. And there is no mention of it in the Zohar.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Jack,
I am not giving him a chance. But he is way more talented than the narcist who beat Hilliary, so no guarentees.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
You and that law maker should plan some more stops while traveling the world to experience modern terrorism.
Congo
Ecuador
Somalia
Yemen
Iran
China
Belarus
Honduras
El SalvadorOr you could wander around Mexico and advertise that the cities in the USA are ridden with crime and gangs.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Jack,
This fellow is not a nobody. He had (before his deep dive) more of a background in politics than the last president, and a large chunk of the current House.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
I don’t know why you say that this was a unique period of assimilation. The whole of the last three hundred years is one long slide that is still sliding.
n0mesorahParticipantThe consequences laid out in the Torah are in response to actual sins of the nations. Not ideology.
n0mesorahParticipantSo then we arrive at the fallacy that the purest person is the one who only doesn’t kill and only does kill because of God’s revealed will alone.
n0mesorahParticipantAn atheist is not an idol worshipper.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avram,
Possible. But look at the comments on the main site.
It’s familiar. I can’t place the old username.
April 26, 2023 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm in reply to: Seditious Ted Cruz and the rest of the coup plotting Republicans #2184423n0mesorahParticipantThere never was an election. Putin made a deal with some aliens to reinstall Jimmy Carter back in the Whitehouse. Joe Biden is just a front.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
When I daven for your employee, am I allowed to feel compassion for him being ill?
April 26, 2023 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2184393n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
Completely different topic. That thread does not suggest the Illuminati’s involvement.
April 26, 2023 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2184375n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
Your all confused. The point of a state of emergency is to bypass the bureaucracy. I’m sorry that The State keeps failing you. Maybe stop trusting them to run your life.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Cs,
It’s a theory that lag baomer is associated with pnemius hatorah. I know you didn’t create it and it has multiple citations. But it’s still only a theory.
So we should have a celebrated day, because a theory about theories gained universal traction?!?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avira,
Can I daven for your employee’s health?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Cs,
That’s a theory. It seems silly to celebrate a day based on something that is totally unsubstantiated.
April 26, 2023 10:05 am at 10:05 am in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2184266n0mesorahParticipantA Sample Of Ongoing Experiments Being forced On The People.
Autopilot Cars.
Over 3000 ingredients in food.
Wireless technology.
Hundreds of untested vitamins.
Qanon.
Finance manipulations.
Drones and bots.
April 26, 2023 10:04 am at 10:04 am in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2184257n0mesorahParticipant“The bureaucracy has failed us repeatedly.”
Dear Ze,
Do you know what that means? It is a clear admission of there being no conspiracy. Just incompetence. That is not a good thing. So don’t emulate it.
April 26, 2023 10:02 am at 10:02 am in reply to: I refused to be injected with an experimental product #2184254n0mesorahParticipantDear Ali,
I was careful about names then, but your post on this thread is really tempting me.
April 26, 2023 10:01 am at 10:01 am in reply to: Seditious Ted Cruz and the rest of the coup plotting Republicans #2184250n0mesorahParticipantDear Jack,
Would have or did? Please make sense.
I don’t get your point. Cruz muddied his reputation with his ’16 presidential run. It hasn’t gotten better for him. So he started appealing to a different crowd.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Mb,
Studying Torah (in a Beis Medrash) is the obligation of all Male Jews. I thought the thread shifted into what is the place of kollel. What is the difference between a job bein hasedarim, and a full time job with a seder before and after work?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
Can I assume that you are less traveled then I am?
Your right it wasn’t just one paratrooper. It was over ten thousand drops.
It is really hard to stay relevant to a subject that never happened.
In your oddball opinions, what are the basic human rights?
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