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I think that might have been the general view years ago but nowdays it’s easy to see that it’s possible for a working man to be worse off than those not working
Oomis i like that thanx! I’m not holding by kids yet but I”yh I’ll try to remember it!
Brooklyn, I definately do that’s why I’m would like to know a way to educate them without over exposing ya know what I mean?
I’m with brooklyn on this, I also went to a very frum school, and had a great name, then convinced my parents to get me a phone in 10th grade when it was still rare for kids to have phones (I was the third girl to have a phone in a grade of 200), and I can honestly say that because of the TEXTING a lot of thing happened that I would never want my kids to go through. My parents did look at my bills every month but I don’t think that really helps so much being that they often didn’t question the numbers that kept appearing in the bills or I would just say it was one of my girl friends.
Based on my experiences, I’m very pro kosher phones because I think it’s very important for kids to be able to contact someone in case of an emergency. But on the flip side, kids will be kids and that’s all part of growing up and maturing, and they will be able to get around whatever you want usually.
Illini, it sounds like you are coming from a more modern perspective than brooklyn and I for that matter, but I agree with your points. I had a lot of friends that came from more open minded homes while I came from a slightly more sheltered home yet being that they were exposed to more, they felt less of a pull towards it. Each situation is different though.
lol the YWN office has dial up? oy that’s why it takes a while to be updated! but otherwise great job luv the site! 🙂
“how their Tzeddoka is better then others because of all the stories about them”
They are not trying to say that their tzedaka is better than others, perhaps they just publicize it more than others.
But whatever works if someone gives tzeddaka to ANY organization, as long as they have the right machsava that in the zchus of tzeddaka they should be helped, hopefully they will get their yeshua
I agree that we have to educate our children to prevent them from all this but personally I really don’t want my kids knowing about crack and pot if it’s not necessary. so how to we created a middle way where we can educate our kids but not have them too exposed?
Thank you! let us concentrate on the achdus and the beauty of klal yisroel instead of hurting more people!
Sjs:
“Now, not everything has an answer but if you instill in your children a love of Torah, then the few laws you cannot explain are will be ok with them because they will believe and understand the premise.”
Exactly, hopefully that will keep them connected but even if a child has a very strong solid background, often they will just try some of the garbage out there and get hooked.
I don’t think there is a clear cut answer, it depends on the kid and Hashem should send all their parents koach to continue
I agree oomis, it happens all the time I say g’shbs and the person looks at me like do I know you.
I was wondering though, in part of the niceness of far rkwy was that Everyone said good shabbos including the men. Is that the norm?
Thanks Ashreinu, well said and yes people definately do knock frumness to an extent like saying so and so is “far-frumt.” It has to do with the fact that everyone thinks that they are ‘normal’ and anyone frummer than them is farfrumt and anyone less frum is modern. People need to change their attitude and be aware that there is always room for growth
brooklyn, a gemora guy that’s gona go to college?!
Yea same here whenever there’s a slow day I’m on all day this site cracks me up
Thanx that’s what I thought
I was just in Far Rockaway for shbs and was so impressed!!!! Everyone was so nice and welcoming they all said good shbs (something I never see in my hometown)!!!
Thanx so much all u far rkwy ppl for being such gracious hosts!!! can’t wait till next time!!
What is Shor yashuv in Far Rockaway like?
000646
Why do you have to mention it all together? Omitting the fact that there are other opinions and other “sides” is not lying
000646, children don’t always need sources to be able to take information in. Usually hearing a powerful story or being taught the beauty of pure Yiddeshkeit is enough to positivly influence them.
But true that if a child have certain questions, the parents should bring mekoros to support his answer. Many times there is no reason to show kids the other side.
SJS, yes a person should always follow their own Rav, yet the Rav should be a competent Halachic authority. The list at the beginning of the post is probably based on the fundamental parts of tznius that every bais yakov girl is taught throughout school. For those that will go by that list kol hakovod! You might want to show the list to ur Rav to ask his opinion for exact halachic ruling
Thank you tb. It bothers me tremendously when kids and parents will always find a person to blame when a child goes off the D. In some specific cases kids will go off because of a rebbe or parent that was very restricting but what about the kid him/her self!!! Most kids have a very strong yetzer towards gashmius thats out there n then they find someone to place the blame on. As I myself am b’h out of the teenage years i am able to look back and see that it wasn’t my parents or teachers that made me do what I did (I did not go off jus strayed from the norms) but I know now I have only myself to blame. and I see the same story with all my friends that went off. It’s the child’s own yetzer hara and for all the kids out there that keep blaming everyone for the way they are, stop it. And for all the parents of teenagers out there keep up the good work and gluk!
lol so now we gota find moderator/poster brooklyn 19 a shidduch even tho shes not “waiting to get married”
I visited yad vashem in israel this summer and never cried so much in my life. The childrens room is awesome and frightening. Hashem Yikom damam
Ask your own Rav, my parent were going to move after 9/11 but our Rav said not to because there were young teenagers at home, among other reasons
I’m pretty sure it’s muttar, but like feivel says there are a lot of complicated halachos involved which is why most people try to avoid it
There’s a big difference if kids look up to the athletes and idolize them or if they just follow the game
Its very normal for boys to be into sports just depends on your hashkafa on how you want to allow it.
Don’t judge other people’s psak. A women in a professional business such as a lawyer or that sort, that often needs to shake hands with men or else they will appear rude can probably get a heter. A doctor, nurse, dentist and any other medical person falls under a different catogory of halacha which is mutar.
I was once a bus going to Williamsburg and was paying while the bus was driving and I had men behind me that were stamping and muttering nu! because they didn’t want a woman standing in front of them. Then when I had to walk back to the of the bus to the women’s section I almost fell on the men because I couldn’t hold on to the seats because there were men there. I learnt that a woman is not supposed to walk between two men so how is it ok the way the bus is set up? Correct me on the halacha if im wrong
in regard to the tznuius thread, read the book “oz vhadar levusha.” Its a little machmir but you’ll get a clearer picture of why certain clothes should not be worn. I wear most types of clothes out there but as far as slits go, I see on my friends’ skirts when they wear slits on short skirts, guys get extremely attracted to it, probably when their upper leg keeps flashing through, and girls really need to be aware of what they are causing when they wear these skirts.
with cap sleeves, they are halachically tznius and thats mostly what you’ll find in department stores. I think it’s beautiful when you can instantly recognize a jewish girl when she makes sure to wear a long sleeved shell under something that is otherwise not tznuis
zimby and dont have internet, go online n search through all the malls, everyone has a pdf that you can download with all the store hrs and savings. I looked at a few and the best are woodbury and jackson outlets. gluk!
lol i heard of eisenhower!!! we learnt bout him in elementary! 19!!!!!
lol omg thanks zimby for the guy’s side!!!! I’m cracking up I still sympathize with us girls though!!!