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Even the Litvishe Gedolim have mentioned that the BY movement has often overstepped their bounds in the emphasis on Meforshim, sometimes crossing the line into things that may not be learned. Rav Shach ZT’L writes in one of his letters that teaching girls Meforshim in depth would be assur because of this, (the problem is quantifying “in depth”, which makes it easy to rationalize) and when a couple of seminary girls came to him to ask him to explain a Ramban or something to them, he replied that they should better spend their time delving into domestic arts. Just as there are things that need to be improved in the Yeshiva system (such as their learning too slow, as Rav Shach, Rav Gifter, and others have often lamented to no avail), there are things that ought to be changed in the BY system. It is not the Gedolei Yisroel that created the curriculum that they use today.
myfriendMemberWow! SJS calls Shulchan Aruch “false” and “shaky”. I have nothing else to say to her.
myfriendMemberBaruch Hashem. We should continue as strong.
November 9, 2010 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708313myfriendMemberFeif Un:
1. Rav Dovid does not eat CS.
2. Even if Rav Dovid did, you might have a kasha for R. Dovid. It does not change the fact that Rav Moshe wrote in his teshuva that a baal nefesh does not eat CS.
myfriendMemberLomed Mkol Adam:
The conclusion is that there are four areas within this law:
1. Women may not learn the Oral Torah
2. Women may learn the simple meaning of the Written Torah
3. Women may not learn the Written Torah in depth
4. Women must learn the laws that apply to them
myfriendMemberWIY:
Instead of reading the summary by whoever wrote that, crack open the sources like the Igros Moshe cited. It is not geneiva.
November 9, 2010 5:57 am at 5:57 am in reply to: IRA…Traditional or Roth?? Stock trade or mutual funds? #707754myfriendMember2 b thankful:
Fidelity.
November 9, 2010 5:22 am at 5:22 am in reply to: Parental Resposibility for Damage by Minor Child #708075myfriendMemberWrong aries2756. Dina Dmalchusa does not override Torah law, when halacha specifies how it is done.
November 9, 2010 3:42 am at 3:42 am in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708310myfriendMemberGolden Flow, by far, remains the freshest CY milk (imho).
myfriendMemberWIY:
Check the sources you cited from Halachically Speaking.
The issue is Hasagas Ge’vul (and perhaps Ze nehene ve’ze chaser), but NOT geneiva. Again, check the sources in the footnotes of what you yourself cited.
myfriendMemberNo mainstream rabbi allows abortion for a fetus with a medical condition. (With the very daas yochid exception of Rav Eliezer Waldenberg zt’l who allowed 1st trimester on tay sachs.)
myfriendMembergrada – nice in theory. But in practice these girls get stuck when it comes to shidduchim.
charlie – girls are halachicly prohibited from learning gemorah. Only YU and non-Orthodox types engage in that.
November 9, 2010 1:42 am at 1:42 am in reply to: Parental Resposibility for Damage by Minor Child #708073myfriendMemberoomis1105:
A minor, under halacha, is someone under Bar/Bas Mitzvah. So anyone 13 or older is an adult. Therefore that person IS responsible. (Although his parents are not.)
myfriendMemberWIY:
It is not stealing under halacha. (There may be other halachic concerns, however.)
myfriendMemberThe guy should be, at max, 10 years older than her.
myfriendMemberpashca:
You need a few lessons to help you brush up on your dan lkaf zchus skills.
Stop believing all the sheker out there.
myfriendMemberpascha:
Stop believing the sheker in the media about frumme Yidden. It is 99.9+% false. 99.999% of what frumme yidden do are kidushei Hashem.
myfriendMemberWe frumme Yidden make far far more Kiddushei Hashem’s than Chillul Hashem’s.
And it does matter, a great deal in fact, whether one of our brothers were involved in a tragedy.
myfriendMemberYM: Was the situation as simply as you put it, or was there more to it?
myfriendMemberAPY: Before hurling false accusations a) brush up on your Hebrew or Aramaic reading comprehension and b) note I didn’t quote Rashi.
myfriendMemberWolf – you didn’t respond to my earlier comment.
A few additional points:
Nothing the OP said indicates any potential copying (and it should be noted he said he never yet has copied) is not of “free source” music.
Additionally, under U.S. copyright law, copying copyrighted material for personal non-commercial usage falls under the “fair use” doctrine and is legal. Even if it is one friend copying for another, without any mass distribution involved.
myfriendMemberWolf:
It possibly may not pass the yashrus test and is wrong, but if it is not stealing don’t call it stealing.
myfriendMemberIf he is leading you astray, you should break off communications with him ASAP.
myfriendMemberAPY: If you doubt the veracity of the quote of Rashi, see the Rashi on the Mishna in Sotah 20a and the Gemorah in Kiddushin 80b.
As far as your question of do most modern seminaries subscribe to the opinion of Rashi as is it is quoted here? Even the Litvishe Gedolim have mentioned that the BY movement has often overstepped their bounds in the emphasis on Meforshim, sometimes crossing the line into things that may not be learned. Rav Shach ZT’L writes in one of his letters that teaching girls Meforshim in depth would be assur because of this, (the problem is quantifying “in depth”, which makes it easy to rationalize) and when a couple of seminary girls came to him to ask him to explain a Ramban or something to them, he replied that they should better spend their time delving into domestic arts. Just as there are things that need to be improved in the Yeshiva system (such as their learning too slow, as Rav Shach, Rav Gifter, and others have often lamented to no avail), there are things that ought to be changed in the BY system. It is not the Gedolei Yisroel that created the curriculum that they use today.
November 8, 2010 4:56 am at 4:56 am in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708269myfriendMemberThat’s the first time I heard a Wolf being lactose intolerant.
November 8, 2010 3:41 am at 3:41 am in reply to: Molesters: Why Do Some In Our Community Cover For Them? #711845myfriendMemberThen you don’t know the inyan of going to the mikva. By Bar Mitzva — at latest — boys go to the mikva at least every Erev Shabbos, if not daily.
myfriendMemberStatistics show that guys who get married at eighteen have more years of a happy marriage on average.
myfriendMember1. Muttar, but not obligatory. Recommended though.
2. He must never have had an impermissible relationship, in order to be allowed to inflict the punishment. And it must be done on the spot, when he witnessed the act. (No prior warning is necessary in such an instance.)
myfriendMemberChasidishe bochorim get married at 17 or 18 and are doing very well, thank you. Perhaps a lesson or two can be picked up from their very successful mehalech.
myfriendMembermyfriendMemberI strongly suggest to all those who insist on boys waiting, make sure your sons do not get married prior to Age 40, to insure their maturity level.
November 7, 2010 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm in reply to: 20 yr old boy vs 23 what's the difference? #712803myfriendMemberTo anyone incorrectly thinking older = maturity = better: Perhaps you should wait till the guy is 40. That ought to be the most ideal in your opinion.
The Torah says younger to marry is better; and real life experiance bears out the Torah’s viewpoint of when to get married.
November 7, 2010 11:52 am at 11:52 am in reply to: 20 yr old boy vs 23 what's the difference? #712802myfriendMembertunabeigel123 is correct.
Additionally, the 20 year old is closer to the ideal age of marriage of the Torah of 18.
And, as you said, the are not anymore taught about finances, etc. whether they are 23 or or 20. These things come naturally for a guy.
myfriendMembertwisted: Are you so afraid of the truth that a factual refutation of Eim Habanim gets you all upended? You had a chance to protest with a response indicating what you felt was mistaken. The fact that you and others did not, clearly indicated you have no response to the factual assertions, other than crying not nice.
(Thank you mods for removing the drivel a second time, by the same poster, from this thread.)
November 7, 2010 1:15 am at 1:15 am in reply to: IRA…Traditional or Roth?? Stock trade or mutual funds? #707751myfriendMemberRoth and Traditional both grow at the same rate, and you end up with the same amount at the end. (Assuming similar starting.)
November 7, 2010 1:12 am at 1:12 am in reply to: Yated, Hamodia, Jewish Press? What Is Your Choice? #707643myfriendMemberGedolei Yisroel, whom these frum papers take general direction from, insisted on no female pictures. That is why they instated that policy. If you don’t like it, take it up with Gedolei Yisroel shlita, not their messengers.
November 5, 2010 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm in reply to: Shidduchim, What do boys look for in a girl? #712722myfriendMemberWIY:
Real farhers. The girls father will test the bochor on a random Gemorah inside. The bochor better know his stuff well.
November 5, 2010 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm in reply to: Shidduchim, What do boys look for in a girl? #712718myfriendMemberI dont think farhering really goes on anymore.
Huh? Fahering very much goes on. Don’t know what circles you’re drifting in, but girls fathers very much faher the boys before they can go out with their daughter.
myfriendMemberLMA – The wording of the mi sheberach does give legitimacy to the zionist institutions. Hence it cannot be recited. Your point about the zionist entity existing regardless whether we recite it or not is meaningless. Would you therefore recite a misheberach for the Cuban Communists since you feel whether reciting it or not is without effect?
The State has caused a lack of security by inciting the Arabs to violence against us. And the State does not provide as much financial assistance to us, as we (Torah Jewry) provide financial assistance to the State in the form of taxes, fees, and all sorts of regulatory stuff.
And reciting the mi sheberach will do nothing towards feelings of the frei. The religious zionists already say it; the Shiuni-types hate us nonetheless. They will not be appeased “only” until the last Neteurei Karta Yid says the mi sheberach.
myfriendMemberStateSen: Huh? Are you in the middle of a conversation with someone?
Who is this Miller?
Top 5 WHAT?
“abroad”?
November 4, 2010 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm in reply to: Yated, Hamodia, Jewish Press? What Is Your Choice? #707634myfriendMemberDoes anyone know the reason the Eretz Yisroel and American Yated’s split? Who controls the European edition?
myfriendMemberAnd it isn’t limited to those in law. That was an example. And the issues they suffer isn’t limited to marrying late or never marrying. That too was an example.
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Squeak, I always thought you were a young girl.
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Hmm. I’m pretty sure squeak’s an old lady.
November 4, 2010 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm in reply to: Molesters: Why Do Some In Our Community Cover For Them? #711821myfriendMemberaries: Helpful is correct. Check out the psak. Rav Elyashev never said their a rodef.
myfriendMemberSometimes I think I may know who you are actually, but I’m not sure…
That sounds like a wish…
November 3, 2010 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm in reply to: Rav Moshe Feinstein: Sitting next to women on buses #706424myfriendMemberI think the issue with translating is discussed in
Igros Moshe Y”D vol. III s.91
Igros Moshe Y”D vol. IV s.38(1)
November 3, 2010 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm in reply to: Rav Moshe Feinstein: Sitting next to women on buses #706412myfriendMemberdd,
Rav Moshe specifically conditioned his kula on, quote, “when there is no other place available”. And that is for anyone, even if he thinks he has no improper motives.
Additionally, he did not characterize, as you did, that a man having lustful thoughts is a “psychological problem”. If that were the case most men in the world would be needing constant psychotherapy. That is a normal male thing, not a “psychological problem”. Rav Moshe, in he aforementioned teshuva tells how to deal with it.
myfriendMemberYTVYTTCBBRKLYN –
Why did you go to 3 different Yeshivos?
myfriendMemberyechezkel89, I refuted points in that sefer point-by-point, including page number citations. It is not based on halacha but rather on emotion. See my earlier detailed comment. Read Sefer Vayoel Moshe for a fuller picture.
simcha613, abortion and toeiva is also here. That doesn’t mean we must accept that and not protest.
Akiva, are you making a taaina against Rav Ahron Kotler, Rav Moshe, etc. etc. etc.?
myfriendMemberAinOhdMilvado:
The Sefer Aim HaBanim Semecha doesn’t contain anything new. It’s a collection of all the old Zionist arguments that have long been disproven. The truth is, his position stood no chance to begin with, because even though Rav Teichtel was a Talmid Chacham, he was opposing the collective Torah knowledge of the greatest Torah giants, including but not limited to Rav Chaim Brisker, Rav Samson Raphael Hirsh, The Chofetz Chaim, the Rogachover Gaon, The Lubavitcher Rebbe (Rashab), the Belzer Rebbe (R. Yisachar Dov), the Chazon Ish, the Brisker Rav, Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzensky, all who were opposed to Zionism and the creation of a State. So he was really quite outgunned from the start. The most extensive work on this topic is of course the Satmar Rav’s Vayoel Moshe, which disproves just about every Zionist “proof” ever conceived.
Example: On page 147 he addresses a powerful statement in Ahavas Yonason by R. Yonason Eyebuschitz ZT”L that it is absolutely prohibited for Jews to take over Eretz Yisroel before Moshiach, even if all the nations want them to, which is kind of a problem for a religious Zionist like Rabbi Teichtel. This is his response: “You should understand that the words of Rav Yonason only apply when there is no sign from heaven that we should all abandon the lands of Chutz Laaretz, meaning, when Jews can live peacefully outside of Eretz Yisroel … but not nowadays, when the words of the prophet came true, [that Jews will be hunted down by goyim]. So when the nations give us permission to return to our land, can there be any doubt that it is the will of Hashem that we return to Eretz Yisroel? I am certain, that if Rav Yonason Eyebushitz was living with us today and saw the terrible golus that we endure, he himself would say to us: ‘Brother Jews! The time has come for you to go to Eretz Yisroel, for this is the will of Hashem, for it is not coincidence what has happened to us in Golus, but rather it is the finger of G-d pointing to us to rise from golus…”
And it gets much, much, worse. This attitude that “everyone has to interpret the world the way I do” often passes the line into the realm of the absurd. On page 98 he deals with the Minchas Elozor, who was a vehement opponent of Zionism. He was vehemently critical in general, actually, when it came to protecting the Torah. And nobody was beyond his scrutiny. Here are some quotes:
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