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myfriendMember
80, I wouldn’t buy German either. Especially a large ticket item like a car. I agree with her father’s reaction fully. I was just curious how she thinks he would’ve reacted after the fact on a large ticket item. (Although, my grandfather, who survived the holocaust, once gave me a hobby book that was made in Germany.)
i misunderstood, sorry
myfriendMemberYou are a longtime member in good standing.
myfriendMemberHe once bought a nail clipper and a few weeks later saw that on the bottom of it said MADE IN GERMANY, he tossed it right out.
They already made their money by that time, tossed out or not. I guess he didn’t want to use it though.
What if he opened the hood to his car and saw the engine said Made in Germany? Toss it out?
myfriendMemberWIY:
I’m not sure if that’s what you mean… but if you click the time (in minutes or hours) under FRESHNESS on the main CR page, it will take you to the last post on the thread.
myfriendMemberThat’s what all the patients are claiming.
myfriendMemberchesedname,
What is your source for your assertion?
November 12, 2010 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm in reply to: Dealing with difficult or annoying people: My theory #713728myfriendMemberWIY: This shouldn’t be in the “Rants” section (you have a bad habit of putting most of your threads there!) It belongs in the Inspiration/Mussar section. Mods?
November 12, 2010 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709267myfriendMemberWho said anything about “you must stay away from your own daughter”? That is “interpreting it [the comment] extremely”. The point was about a man dancing with a daughter or sister in middle of a sea of (dressed to kill!) women.
myfriendMemberMike:
How is commenting that it is wrong for a brother to dance with a bride in middle of the women’s section “judging”?
It is not. Nor is it referring to anyone specifically, hence no “judgement” involved. It is relating aspects of Jewish law.
November 12, 2010 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709263myfriendMemberWhat if he/she doesn’t want to be hit upon?
myfriendMemberSJS: What are you doing in the asylum?
myfriendMemberSimilar discussion:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/buying-german-products
myfriendMemberWho says anything about complaining?
Let’s see…
Any of that sound familiar?
myfriendMemberMike –
So why are you complaining on this forum?
Go on with your life.
myfriendMemberROB: So you *do* favor (and believe halachicly appropriate) for girls to don white dresses, and go to single events and dance in front of the single guys, so each guy can pick a wife.
Right? Otherwise what does Tu B’Av mean?
And what about on Yom Kippur? The Mishna says they do this on Yom Kippur too, so you do support the girls dance on Yom Kippur, with the guys in attendance?
November 12, 2010 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709257myfriendMemberEven putting aside the issurim discussed, how does a father dancing with the kallah, surrounded by many women, fit into the Shulchan Aruch’s dictum of “????? ?? ????? ????” (stay very far away from women)?
myfriendMemberSeriously, where do you people dream this stuff up?
Good question. The answer is these people don’t like Kollel, so they attack Kollel yungerleit as the easiest scapegoat.
myfriendMemberGmail and YouTube are both Google owned websites. They share the same login/password.
November 12, 2010 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm in reply to: Do You Put Out A Flag On American Holidays? #1023065myfriendMemberI keep a small American flag inside my window all year.
myfriendMemberchesedname:
The Rambam says you can do Teshuvah on anything.
November 12, 2010 11:35 am at 11:35 am in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709252myfriendMemberyechezkel: Read the thread. Someone already cited the halacha that it is assur for a brother (or anyone other than the father or chosson).
And if the women are dancing when the father is there, that is assur for everyone. And various posters have indicated that in the vast majority of cases, the entire women’s section does NOT suddenly stop dancing if the father, brothers, uncles, etc. suddenly come into the women’s side of the mechitza to dance with the bride.
myfriendMemberThe same way one does teshuva for avodah zora or mishkav zochor.
myfriendMemberMr. 80’s comment on this, from the other thread:
Moderator-80
Mr. 80
the Minhag was mvatel by the Chochomin when the generations were no longer fit for it.
POSTED 5 HOURS AGO #
November 11, 2010 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709235myfriendMemberKapusta: Are you equally offended when someone posts on the forum that it is okay to do something that is forbidden? And when a poster gets upset that they are told something they like to do is forbidden?
November 11, 2010 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm in reply to: Dose of reality: Kids kicked out of school #709045myfriendMembermsseeker: Do not be bowed in stating the truth, that others take offense at. Chazak V’amatz!
November 11, 2010 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709222myfriendMemberLooking at a girl is ossur? Everything in moderation man… It is a geder. Maybe we should pluck our eyes out so we don’t look at each other.
Vlo Sasuru Acharei Lvavchem Veacharei Eineichem. It’s a pasuk in the Torah, not a geder.
myfriendMemberStating a Torah position that prohibits certain activities is not a judgement of those engaging in those prohibited activities.
It is is enumerating the Torah’s position on those prohibited activities.
myfriendMemberIf someone justifies an anti-Torah position, it is incumbent to strongly protest.
November 11, 2010 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709216myfriendMemberWIY: Keep strong in your position. Taking a Torah position is often unpopular.
myfriendMembermikehall12382 –
You’ve just “judged” the posters of this forum, in violation of your own words.
myfriendMemberAha! In that case of what relevance at all is Tu B’Av to today’s shidduchim or to mixed seating? You’ve just discounted its usage to today’s life. So why did you bring it up in the other thread?
November 11, 2010 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm in reply to: Amnesty: Prosecute Bush If He Authorized Waterboarding #713791myfriendMemberAOM: As you can see, I did put a hyphen — right above the “a”.
myfriendMemberAnd LOL at the misuse of Tu B’Av.
So you (as representitive of the MO) _do_ favor (and believe it halachicly appropriate) for girls to don white dresses, and go to single events and dance in front of the single guys, so they can pick a wife.
Right? Otherwise what does Tu B’Av mean?
November 11, 2010 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm in reply to: Amnesty: Prosecute Bush If He Authorized Waterboarding #713788myfriendMemberAll?hu Akbar
myfriendMemberNovember 11, 2010 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709199myfriendMemberdunno, WIY said: Vlo Sasuru Acharei Lvavchem Veacharei Eineichem
myfriendMemberso why are you two kids always flirting with each other?
myfriendMemberICOT: Some of the towns you said disappeared, are still around and kicking… http://www.townofneversink.org/
November 11, 2010 10:58 am at 10:58 am in reply to: Fathers and brothers dancing with the Kallah #709158myfriendMemberThis is public lewdness and immorality. What if the father had a terrible taaiva to eat chazir and it was really emotional for him, and if he had the waiter bring him a shtick chazir in middle of the wedding? It is an aveira b’rabim, that and this.
myfriendMemberRav Ahron Kotler was also considered the laughingstock in America, when it was popularly predicted Chareidim will disappear completely. They all laughed at him, yet he had the last laugh.
The same Rav Ahron that said (and is written in his Mishnas Rabi Ahron, vol. 3, in his Hesped for the Brisker Rov) that the essence of Modern Orthodoxy is the same as the Reform and Conservative.
November 11, 2010 1:26 am at 1:26 am in reply to: Dose of reality: Kids kicked out of school #709021myfriendMemberAs many experienced kids at risk counselors have told me and Rabbonim have said on numerous occasions, having a TV in the home is one of the largest causes of teens at risk and OTD.
myfriendMembermyfriendMemberUngarish isn’t an accent. That is the proper accent and pronunciation.
myfriendMemberLMA:
I’m not sure what your taking issue with, but modern orthodoxy is about compromising halacha. Rav Aharon Kotler ZTV’L, in Mishnas Rabi Aharon (vol. 3, Hesped on the Brisker Rav) states that the essence of Modern Orthodoxy is the same as the Reform and Conservative.
myfriendMemberFirst they will tell you that learning secular subjects is necessary for being a ben-torah; that it actually enhances your ability to remain frum, and it completes your Judaic profile. Then they will tell you that girls have to learn Gemora to counteract its poisonous effects.
Hello???
The fact is that any knowledge that would shake your faith or make you weaker is prohibited to learn. And the fact also is that if you wanted to counteract secular influences, Gemora is not at all the subject matter you should be learning. You will not find anywhere in all the halachic discussion in all of Shas a discussion about why Hashem created the world, why He cares if you are religious, or anything along those lines. If you must learn Gemora for that reason, learn Ain Yaakov. But the halachic disputes about 2 people grabbing a talis of how we know how a woman is married if you give her money does not address the issues.
Until someone from the Modern Orthodox world comes up with some acceptable reason why they have a right to disregard a clear and unanimous halachah in Gemora and poskim – and so far, despite countless books and articles on the subject by Modern Orthodox and non-modern orthodox writers, not a single source has been found – we are fully obligated to hold that these institutions are not only in violation of the Halachah, but worse yet. They have officially institutionalized their halachic violation, and made it “their lifestyle”. And they are obligated not to allow it.
It is not a mere sin, it is a communal-wide agreement to commit a sin.
myfriendMemberThe prohibition of women learning Gemora is not my belief, but that of Chazal and the Shulchan Aruch.
Despite claims of many authorities stating that women are allowed to learn Gemora nowadays, there are none. None that have any authority to argue with a unanimous halachah in Chazal, Rishonim and Shulchan Aruch – yes, unanimous.
They taught a lie. Simple as that. You will find me zero – not a single opinion that women may be taught in a classroom setting Torah shebal peh. Oh, I know that contemporary Modern Orthodox rabbis have said so, but they themselves are the ones that need to find the authorities that permit, and not a single one of them had.
Rav Moshe Feinstein wrote a teshuva in response to Rav Elya Svei, writing that this as a very simple matter that women are prohibited from learning Mishna or Gemorah.
Rashi says on the spot that the reason we may not teach girls Torah shebal peh is because they will misuse it. There is no mention of any dispensation for “shakleh vetaryeh” as opposed to “svara”. This is a Modern Orthodox idea, created ex nihilo without any source whatsoever. And it makes no sense, since much of shakla vetaryah is svara anyway. It would be impossible to seperate the two, nor, for the record, do the girls’ Gemroa classes make the attempt.
In Shulchan Aruch 241:6 it rules that even Torah shebiksav is prohibited l’chatchilah to teach women. The Taz (#4) explains that from Hakhael we see that the basic, surface-level reading and understanding of Torah shebiksav is permitted, and the intent of the Shulchan Aruch is that the explication of Torah shebiksav is assur lchatchilah. Quote: “Limud peirush divrei Torah derech hischakmus v’havanah” is prohibited lchatchilah.
The Maharil (199) rules that it is best not to teach women Torah at all – even the Halachos that they need to know, which are permitted – rather, they should learn those Halachos from their homes and asking shailos.
Clearly, this is not much of an option today, so we have girls schools. And we do have the Chofetz Chaim that said nowadays we should teach them hashkafa and halachah, none of which was ever assur anyway. But any Mishna or Gemora? Still assur.
The Gemora, Rambam and Shulchan Aruch rule unanimously that a father may not teach his daughter Gemora – that is not a public instruction, but a private one.
myfriendMembermyfriend = chaveirim kol yisroel
November 9, 2010 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm in reply to: Parental Resposibility for Damage by Minor Child #708084myfriendMemberCan a married woman sign a contract? If so, and she breaks it, what recourse does the other party have?
Since she owns no assets (unless it is pre-marital), and her husband is not financially responsible for her actions, it would seem there is no recourse. Unless a married woman can’t be a party to a contract in the first place.
myfriendMemberThere is no concept of copyright under Jewish law. There is Hasagas Ge’vul.
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