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We are all part of an ancient organization that used to meet in a coffee room (before the internet) to discuss various notable stories of the day…
…is as good a guess as any.
HaLevei sounds correct, but that just begs the question on why obesity isn’t an averiah…
DasYochid, if that is the case,and I saw a human being being kind to animals, preaching kindness to animals,preaching kindness to living things in general, and I looked up to and highly respected this person tot he point of attempting to emulate him, I would imagine going vegetarian a good thing that s/he would agree with and appreciate.
And no where in the Tohra does ????? say anything about “Thou Shalt not be more compassionate then me.”
Or does it?
One of the ???? of ????? is ????. And that is the ultimate definition of ???? and yet it is a ???? to Shecht and to eat meat. Thus it is clear that shechting and eating meat is not a conflict with ????.
Thus for someone to say that avoiding meat is because of a ??? of ???? they are using an incorrect definition of ????.
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Except that ????? is not human. And doesn’t actually have emotions and feelings the same way we do. We use those “middot” as ways of describing acts that we would find nonsensical otherwise.
And no where in the Tohra does ????? say anything about “Thou Shalt not be more compassionate then me.”
Or does it?
1) How would have a “chumra” that is directly against certain mitzvos, specifically korbonos. It is not the same as not blowing shofar or taking the arba minim on Shabbos. There you are not saying that there is something wrong with the etzem mitzvah.
2) A chumra is to protect against being oiver an aveitah or being mevatel a mitzvah, what aveirah or mitzvah are you supposedly protecting your self from by not eating meat? There is no issur of tzar baalei chayim when you are shechting. There is no reason to even go into the reason of me’od me’od.
If the person said he is not eating meat because he is concerned about kkashrus, and therefor he is machmir not to eat any meat, that could be a legitimate application of chumra, but that was not the focus of such an alleged chumra, so it is a bogus application of the concept of chumra
I was thinking about the general notion throughout the Torah of kindness to other living beings. I did not mean Chumrah in a specifically halachic sense.
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I understand the Rambam to be saying that this is not rachmanus.
It is made up rachmanus.
Made up rachmunus?!
So someone feels bad about killing, even animals. That’s “made up” how, exactly?
Why is it such a big deal (so that people will call it apikoruses?!) to have a Chumra not to eat animals, but not nearly such a big deal for people to have multiple Chumrohs on Tznius that go well beyond what the Tohra or even talmud have prescribed?
PEMDAS is a rule for mathematics whether it’s written there or not.
Only following that when it says PEMDAS there would be the same as only making a brocha on food if the food was labeled with “brocha”
A – Is “not normal” the same as “bad?”
B- It could be argued that any job comes with certain implications on the family’s life. Should not a single person who has a family ever enter the armed forces, because who would put their family through that? Or any kind of Fire Department or Police?
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend anybody…
This is hilarious, in a sad sort of way
SO if I posted a comment here, and now it’s gone, what does that mean (I’m relatively new here)….
Rebyidd, I was talking about Judging your enemies favorably, not knowing they might do something to hurt you.
sm29
And what, non-jews don’t count?
The question is, can you judge favorably people who aren’t simply doing what you already believe is good? It’s very easy to judge your friends favorably, not nearly as much so your enemies.
Sam2
I haven’t seen any sort of evidence that President Obama plans on somehow staying president for a 3rd term….
Also, I’m fairly sure even if he does manage to pass such an amendment, it would only take effect after he left office.
Yes, but Avodah Zara is a very specific case. however, people tend to bandy the phrase around now and turn it to mean anything a person can get even slightly obsessive over (except for Tohra, of course. That, obsession to any degree seems to be great, the more the better)
I never understood the “love and fear god” concept. From my (admittedly limited) experience, love and fear are very much anti antithetical.
I love mmy father, but I certainly don’t fear him (same with my mother). And the one or two people I do fear, I don’t love.
I’ve never had both for the same person.
emmet,
It seems very odd to me that a therapist would go for advice from someone with no thereputical training, then tell you to do that.
I would say the best idea is to try and find another therapist or two, non-affiliated with her or her Rav, and ask them what they think, to get a different view point with sounder backing then here.
Secondly, I would ask if YOU believe your son is already “ruined?”
Yehudayona and Sam2
A computer is by no means Avodah Zorah. Nobody (as far as I know) worships a computer and believes it to be a higher power, or a servant of higher power. It is simply a tool to increase your standard of living and work.
HaleiVI
So, the basic idea is, Hashem creates everything, and knows what happens to/with everything, and decided to then do two things:
(though for Hashem it would actually be all instantaneous, but we’ll use human speaking patterns because-surprise-surprise- I’m human. Imagine that.)
1)Wanted to give people a way to see the future, and decided prophets weren’t enough, and decided to use the heavenly bodies visible from earth
2)Decided to tell people (but not all people, just a small sect of those who read one specific sefer, the Zohar?) that certain movements in the sky of the aforementioned heavenly bodies correspond to certain human behaviors , traits, and fortunes.
Is that about right?
Because killing things for fun is a core value you want to have?
I would love to know how the movement of the planets and how they appear from earth affects us humans living here (assuming, of course, that something doesn’t cause them to break from their orbits and start messing around with the other planets).
I would argue that a parent does not have the right to break something that there child bought on his/her own. Granted, there might be extreme exceptions, but I don’t think a computer is one of them.
Furthermore, breaking it would probably cause a large rift between yourself and your child, and would likely increase the problem in the long run anyway.
Have you tried sitting down with your child and asking him why he watches movies that bother you, and perhaps try to come to some sort of agreement?
I’m one day old (on this forum)- though I’ve lurked around here for quite a while already. I hope I don’t cause you any issues 🙁
“There is a story about Reb Yaakov Kaminesky, that someone handed him a freshly printed Sefer in the street. He didn’t need it and dropped it in the sewer. When the one he was conversing with was surprised, Reb Yaakov told him that it only gets Kedusha when you learn from it. This Sefer was just printed.”
That seems very strange…
I wouldn’t throw any kind of book in a sewer like that, especially not a sefer. It’s disrespectful in the extreme to both the author and the subject matter. I highly doubt that story is correct, at least not with the barebone facts you’ve given.
Wolf,
something can be burdensome without being a burden. Something can provide (usually temporary) discomfort without you classifying it as a burden.
Would you consider your children burdens? They might indeed sometimes place a burden on family finances, your time and/or patience etc., but overall, I highly doubt you would classify them as an overall burden. (correct me if I’m wrong).
In the same fashion, not wanting to carry an extra sefer with you does not mean that you consider Tohra to be a Burden. You may consider small aspects of the process of learning Tohra (such as carrying around a heavy sefer) slightly burdensome, but overall you wouldn’t consider Tohra to be a burden. this is especially true when you consider that “Tohra” does not just refer to the actual sefer you happen to be carrying as well-it’s a large metaphysical concept that can extend from a simple chumash to the overall concept of the Tohra.
In conclusion, I would say what you felt was perfectly normal, understandable, definitely not something to be upset about (though I’ve never found much success in telling someone not to be upset about something that they already regret), and certainly not indicative that you find “Tohra” to be a burden.