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According to Torah, a unanimous vote against or for something does not count. If it’s unanimous, then the trial lacked intellectual honesty because at least one judge would have looked at it from another angle.
I’m pretty sure that only applies to applying the death penalty to a particular person (which we don’t do today anyways).
(If every Jew in the world agrees that murder is forbidden, would that make it muttar?)
Great MM, lowerourtuition11210
LU:
It’s hard for me to imagine that something the Gemora explicitly says to be incorrect (based on a Passuk, no less) can be used as even a tznif li’hakel in any situation.
Does anybody know if YU guys will generally go out with the daughter of a troll?
??? was the equivalent of a carpet bombing – everything was smashed and burned.
iacisrmma:
Does a ger/giyores still have a mitzvah of kibbud av vaeim?
Kibbud Av vi’Eim does not permit chillul Shabbos.
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LB:
I didn’t feel comfortable dressing untzniusly. I know that for myself, I must dress tzniusly.
It’s impressive that this is something that at this point you intrinsically feel you should be doing for yourself, not for anybody else.
That’s ideal. Right now, I am not-ideal.
IMHO, the important thing is to A) recognize the ideals (check:), and then B) work towards implementing them into one’s day to day life, slowly but surely.
Keep climbing!
The point may be moot…
Trump Pauses on Jerusalem Embassy Plans
By Alexis Simendinger
RCP Staff
January 23, 2017
President Trump is taking a new look at his campaign vow to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, his spokesman said Monday…
Until Monday, Trump supporters believed the president might take action on the embassy move as early as this week. While the administration remains officially committed to the idea, the timing did not appear imminent.
zdad:
Is it also Ok to speak Lashon Harah about people who molest? Abuse, Cheat in business or taxes or other averiahs
That argument cuts both ways – are you (or the others here) makpid to never criticize or talk about all those whom you just mentioned?
And BTW, isn’t saying that somebody said LH also LH?
(That was addressed to everyone here, not just zdad.)
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And he also has a daughter who converted to Judaism 😉
Nu, let’s hope that in his days a Navi will again come to us and tell us that Hashem says the time has come to leave this land and go up to EY.
The fact that Trump has many influential Jews in his administration does not prove that he’s not an anti-Semite.
However, the fact that he’s not an anti-Semite does prove that he’s not an anti-Semite. (Has anybody caught him saying anything anti-Semitic?)
That being said:
Trump is clearly not an anti-Semite. Not only that, but he has clearly denounced all of the various anti-Semites that (quite enthusiastically) support him.
However, the launching of Trump’s Nationalist-Populist movement has both energized and popularized the “White Nationalism” movement of the “Alt-Right”, which is essentially just a repackaging of the ideology of the KKK and the Nazis. This “White Nationalism” has gone from being a fringe, marginalized movement to being a visible force with an increasing amount of adherents and influence. This is, to put it mildly, not something that we should be excited about…
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/chief-anti-semite-of-the-us#post-634866
if someone publicly violates Halacha, knowingly or unknowingly, shouldn’t there be some public outcry to set things straight so that everyone knows it’s not allowed?
I don’t think anybody here considers Ivanka Trump the arbitrator of what is or is not Halachicly permissible. So even if she did rely on an eyebrow-raising heter, I’m not convinced that it’s necessary to publicly denounce her actions.
Avi K, if you don’t believe in Daas Torah at all, why do you care what R’ Lichtenstein has to say?
A quick clarification:
My previous posts were not meant to be bashing the mods in general. The mods are what makes this site different than any other site on the internet where the unfiltered nastiness of the internet is all too easily accessible. And I recognize that the mods are only human, and can’t make all the people happy all the time.
zdad:
I do not belive that either Rav Schecter or Rav Lichtenstein ZTL belived in Daas Torah either, and they are certainly gedolim (Or was in Rav Lictensteins case)
Just out of curiosity, do you believe that there is any reason to listen to the opinions of R’ Schachter or R’ Lictenstein over the opinion of say, any random poster here?
And if so, why?
LB:
I thought even MO Gedolim go off of Daas Torah.
So much to learn.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/do-mo-believe-in-non-strawman-daas-torah
Another relevant op-ed on OO:
Goes to show what OO is really up to, and what their vision of so-called Judaism looks like – prioritizing passing fads from the society around us (celebrating MLK Jr Day, anti-Trumpism, etc) over actually observing Halacha (having a mixed-gender Christian group perform in a shul, fasting on Friday, changing the teffilos) and even the cardinal principles of Judaism (the coming of Moshiach, the rebuilding of the Bais HaMikdosh, and even the authenticity and authorship of the Torah itself).
This is not authentic Judaism.
Mod-XX:
I’m confused. You bring a post from 7 months ago and a post from last week to show something happening often?
It’s certainly anecdotal evidence, but I don’t have the time patience or interest in doing a statistical study on what (or who) the mods do or do not criticize. Suffice to say that I do feel there is an appearance of bias here.
And in both of those examples, it was a comment about the tone of the poster, not the content, politics or religious viewpoint of the post. Which has been my point all along.
And yet, there are often comments from the left-wing posters that have a tone that is at least as disparaging, and no criticism is leveled.
If you need any evidence of that, just re-read this thread.
If somebody criticizes one particular group of people for any nastiness, but does not criticize a second group of people when they do the same thing, I think it’s fair to consider that an appearance of bias despite the fact that no “content, politics or religious viewpoint” has been criticized.
What you are saying would only make sense if I was reading and modding all posts and always on a device that allowed posting. It is a fair point but due to the reality of the situation you cannot judge by that.
Which I think has been NCB’s point all along.
Perhaps. You may be comforted to know I will not be available for in post comments for a period of time so enjoy the quiet. But please understand that the flip side of that is sometimes (not always) just plain deletion.
I have nothing but the greatest respect for R’ Hershel Schachter, but I’m not aware of anywhere in SH”A or any other Halachic writings that would indicate that a Rav has the ability to issue a binding psak Halacha that two particular people *must* get married. This may have been taken out of context, or this may be R’ Hershel Schachter’s personal opinion that goes against the conventionally excepted wisdom of most Poskim.
Either way, I second LU:
I think it would be very problematic for anyone to walk away from this thread with the conclusion that a Rabbi can order them to marry someone whom they don’t want to marry.
I’m with NC on this one – I do think that the mods here have recently been quicker to criticize the posts of the right-wing posters than those of the left-wing ones.
Although in all fairness, this could be due to the fact that there are more right-wing posters here than left-wing posters.
Or it could just be because they don’t like us.
Whatever…
I’m confused. You bring a post from 7 months ago and a post from last week to show something happening often? And in both of those examples, it was a comment about the tone of the poster, not the content, politics or religious viewpoint of the post. Which has been my point all along.
to learn subjects that I’m interested in
There are several other much cheaper ways to accomplish that, starting with your local public library.
LB:
doing Hashem’s Will instead of making Hashem fit what we want.
+1
In order to truly develop a relationship with Hashem, we need to honestly figure out what it is that He truly wants us to do, based on what He has told us and based on the teachings of those who have gotten truly close to Him.
Projecting our own personal pre-conceived notions/beliefs/feelings (which are often based more on the society around us than on any objective criteria) is not only intellectually dishonest, but also perverts the nature of our relationship – we would then be trying to mold God into our image, instead of trying to mold ourselves into God’s image.
As you correctly observed, staying true to Hashem and His Torah is what has sustained us through the ages and through all of our travails. All of the various movements that have attempted to edit Judaism to fit their own ideas instead of Hashem’s everlasting and unchanging will have fallen and faded into history. Because it is our connection with Hashem, on Hashem’s terms, that keeps us going.
These conversations about “tolerance” always amuse me. Odds are that if we were talking about MO/DL instead of Chassidim, most people would be saying the exact opposite of what they are saying now.
Avi K:
the reason why the majority in Lakewood are no longer learning full-time is that budget cuts forced the yeshivots to give exams and cutoff those who were not up to pa
Never happened. Don’t know where you’re getting your info on Lakewood from, but I would suggest that you double-check it. (Anyway, it’s not like anybody is living off just a kollel stipend of a couple of hundred bucks.)
DaMoshe:
yytz: Rewriting halachah doesn’t always need to be allowing things which were forbidden. It can go the opposite way as well.
True, but that only applies to passing off a new chumra as halacha. And while that does happen, these things usually understood to be a chumra/minhag/hanhagah tova, wich is not only not problematic but actually admirable. There is no issur against an individual or a community doing anything that is not absolutely mandated by Halacha.
K-cup:
I’m assuming that’s the wrong way to understand Rav zadok.
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Hoping g someone here knows what Rav zadok was actually saying, his writing is difficult and as I’ve tried to go through his seforim on my own.
Doesn’t look that way 🙁 This place is not exactly known for its depth of understanding of difficult pieces of Chassidic thought.
Tikkun Olam, literally “fixing the world”, is a term that originates (as far as I’m aware) in the Gemara’s re-telling of the story about how Hillel created the concept of a pruzbul as a “tikkun olam”, so that people would not violate the prohibitions related to Shivyis. Somehow, I doubt that the “tikkun olam” that Weiss is referring to has anything to do with making sure people don’t sin.
(And as a side point, I don’t think it’s accurate to refer to Weiss as an MO Rabbi. Although he does try to claim this title, his beliefs are far out of the pale of Orthodoxy, Modern or not.)
OO has essentially the same outlook as Reform – they don’t really care what the Torah, Chazal and Halacha have to say; they just want to do espouse whatever views are currently “in”, particularly about hot-button issues like same-sex marriage, feminism, humanism, being “green”, and what have you. Now, they often attempt (with little success) to shoehorn these beliefs into words that a respected Rabbi, somewhere, has once said. But by and large, they do not care what the majority opinion of the Poskim and Rabbonim are, nor do they necessarily care what the true intention of the Torah or Chazal are.
In short, regardless of what label one attaches to them, it seems to be pretty obvious that this movement has absolutely nothing to do with authentic Judaism.
RebYidd23 is making fun of all those who are stomping their feet and pouting they ridiculously declare that Trump is somewhow not their President.
#Denial
Mammele:
when it happens in Monsey it’s a travesty, while elsewhere it’s considered an economic boon.
Of course growth has to be dealt with safely, but to claim we were once a small village and are to remain so forever is unrealistic and shortsighted.
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papper:
In many parts of Monsey, real estate values have been stagnant to down for several years.
Where? I live in Monsey, and as far as I know the home values everywhere are rising. If anything, the homes in down-zoned, construction-prone parts of Monsey are rising the fastest.
Unsympathetically.
Changing demographics lead to changing neighborhoods. Ramapo is not “breaking” just because it is changing.
I can’t help but notice that despite all of the fearmongering, the one change that I didn’t see the article mention is how much the home values have risen in Ramapo. Guess it didn’t fit the narrative.
That being said, zoning laws and fire ordinances must be followed. There was recently a case where a development in Monsey was shut down by Frum Jews, with the support of Rabbonim, suing due to flagrant violations. Developers must learn (or be taught) to play by the rules or face the consequences.
A quick clarification: Ahron Kotler is most certainly *not* the Rosh Yeshiva of BMG, or a member the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah. He runs the business side of BMG (quite successfully), and the only yeshiva policies that he decides are the financial ones (hence the title of CEO). He’s a great guy, but he’s he’s a businessman, not a Rabbi – and I think he’d be at least as shocked as anybody else to hear somebody suggest otherwise. (Although perhaps not as shocked as some of the right-wingers of Lakewood, who don’t particularly like him.)
– From somebody who actually learnt in BMG, just relating the facts on the ground.
Avi K:
I will repeat my post above regarding Rav Kook’s objection to labels
Wouldn’t that objection also apply to the label “Dati(-Leumi)”?
sends women to support their families and thus is a re-interpretation of Judaism
Oh, are the MO/DL makpid on not having women work out of the home, in line with what you appear to believe is the original “interpretation of Judaism”?
fny:
The Brisker Rav, Chazon Ish, Reb Aharon Kotler, and Satmar Rav, were all charismatic and influential people who had some significant chiddushim in their mehalchim.
DY:
In what way did they differ from their rebbeim?
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IDK, this seems pretty ridiculous to me…
Every single thing that was done in past generations does not necessarily need to be copied, much less turned into some sort of religious ritual.
To quote a similar idea from a somewhat different context:
running the risk of leaving the mistaken impression (particularly on impressionable young minds) that this is somehow a legitimate practice consistent with Halachic-observant Judaism just because some people have done it at some point in the past.
The mistakes of the past must be taught very carefully so as not either legitimize those mistakes, or belittle those who have made them. This is a delicate balance
As to whether there was any point in publicizing this video (besides bringing in ad revenue for YWN, of course;), perhaps it should serve as the starting point of a conversation about what practices from the past should or should not be reenacted.
Whether one considers “Hareidism” to be a movement or not is very much dependent on how one defines “Hareidism”.
But I’m curious if any of those who believe “Hareidism” is indeed a “modern phenomenon” can name any of the founders of this new movement, and how their beliefs differed from those of their teachers.
I agree with myself from 5 months ago.
an extreme right wing Rav named Rabbi Feivelson
Methinks that answering a question posed like that may very well constitute loshon hara, or at least avak loshon hara.
Yes, they will stop fantasizing about preventing his inauguration and immediately begin fantasizing about impeaching him.
IT WAS A MADE-UP STORY! CALM DOWN EVERYONE!
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/abuse#post-638037
+1
I understand that this is a hot-button issue, but there’s really not much point in getting all worked up about the nitty-gritty of a story that never happened.