msseeker

TBT: (Often it’s not faith they’re strugling with as much as pain and hurt)

Popa agrees with TBT.

Me too. I believe it’s a form of anxiety that the mind resorts to in order to cover up pain and hurt. Try the CD program Attacking Anxiety and Depression.

Huge difference. True, but I think ???? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ??? ????? ????? applies here.

Sorry, folks, my post makes no sense now that it was edited (no idea why).

edited.

Your other post was edited because, although it’s fine for you to express your opinion about general behavior in the CR, it’s not fine for you to single out and criticize specific other posters as not conforming to your opinion.

OP, you made me think. It’s been bothering me for a while. I suggest a new rule: No direct discussion between genders. Say “Prince” and “Princess” (fictitious screen names) start a conversation within a thread, addressing each other by their screen names or joking around. That would be akin to pen-palling. The mods would have to stop it.

That wouldn’t solve the problem, though, of a married poster thinking, why can’t my wife be smart and good-natured like eclipse? Or, why doesn’t my husband have Poppa’s sense of humor? (Of course we can never know how posters act IRL, but it’s human nature to form impressions and draw conclusions.)

Bottom line, we should limit CR to informative and serious discussion to help each other, not to impress each other, especially those who happen to be of the opposite gender. Joking and chattering should be allowed only in male-only or female-only threads.

Thanks, mod. Whoda thunk?

In taste: Satmar willi, but it’s thick.

msseeker- But I dont think Im stressed..

That’s exactly it. Your mind can’t or won’t deal with your stress, so it’s fardreying you a kop with your TMJ. Read it, it’s worthwhile, for any chronic pain, even CFS.

Me too (raising my left hand).

That’s 7 lefties in the CR so far. In the general population, 1 in 7 people is a lefty. I wonder if we CRers have a higher rate. That should say something.

“You know that left handed in Latin is sinister.”

And in English it means some pretty nasty things too: liberal, socialist, communist, religiously modern…

The old Yiddish joke obout redundancies is supposed to go like this:

Good Yom Tov

Mayim Acharonim Vasser

Ungarishe narunim

EM, thanks for enlightening us and helping us be you ?? ??? ????. Don’t eat yourself up over this. You sound like a good person who made a mistake, like most of us here. You can explain it to your daughter, and even maybe apologize to the woman if you know who she is. I’ll bet she’ll feel bad and apologize to you and you can all put it behind you.

Listen, motek, you were never an adult raising a teen in today’s terrible world. We know how preachy and condenscending we sound to you b/c we were once teens, but you have no idea how arrogant, foolish and downright obnoxious teens sometimes sound to adults. You cannot imagine what it means for a parent to have raised a child, suffering through sleepless nights, temper tantrums, school issues, etc. etc. etc., only to have her turn into a thankless, chutzpadik teen who denigrates the parent in front of the impressionable younger kids, effectively ruining the atmosphere in the home, while raising her friends on pedestals. Same goes for teachers, to a much lesser extent. So just go back to ??? ?? ???? ??? ???, ???? ????, ????, ???? ??? ????? ????, and all the other nice things we adults have taught you, and… (can’t resist this one) someday you’ll thank me.

Teens were never adults but adults were already teens. This should settle it. We know what it means to be a teen, we know how smart, wise and clever we were, and we’re still telling you we’re much wiser and smarter now, warts & all. If you can’t accept it, well… this just goes to show how much you still have to learn from us adults.

“Satmar Rebbe said in his Hakdama to Vayoel Moshe that the sin of Zionism caused the Holocaust.

The Chazon Ish, R’ Henkin said it was because the Jews were violating the Oaths, which one of them was “that Klall Yisroel would not take control of Eretz Yisroel during golus”.

R’ Elchonon Wasserman Hy”d said it right in ther beginning of the tzoros. See his Ikvesa Dimshicha.

R’ Miller tells how he witnessed massive chilul Shabbos in Kovna.

“just cuz its natural doesnt mean there are no exceptions.”

And b/c it’s an exception the pain and shame is so deep. With e/1 singing the praises of the yiddishe mama, a child who is hated by his mother thinks he’s the only unlucky one in the world. In truth there are many, MANY “yiddishe mamas” (mostly with Borderline Personality Disorder) who hate their kids and often single out one child for devastating abuse. Still, it’s an exception. Most parents do love their kids.

Correction:

NK aims to enlighten the Arabs that Zionism does not equal JUDAISM.

600, your info is correct. Just a side note: I’ve heard several stories (from non-NK sources, presumably true) of frum Jews who got stuck in hostile Arab villages and saved their skins by claiming to be of MH’s people. One story happened in Belgium where some scary Arabs were harrassing Jews. One of them, a visibly frum one, started running and the Arab said, “Don’t be afraid, we know you religious Jews are against Zionism.”

So NK might have saved some lives or limbs. As tbt said above, ??????? ???? ?? ??? ????…

Jewishness: I didn’t call religious Zionism worse than secular Zionism. I said IMHO it’s a bigger PROBLEM. Why? Because they should know better than to go along with the secular Zionists. And the aproving chareidim are an even bigger problem because they should know even better than to go along with the religious Zionists. How do you think H’ feels when we gloat over the victories of those who hate him? ??? ?????? ?’ ???? ???????? ?????? ????? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ??.

Your first question I won’t respond to here, since the answer is purely rhetorical. You can check out Netruna (TrueTorahJews) for info, or the classical seforim like V’Yoel Moshe.

BTW I did not appreciate your attacking tone.

I spoke to ??? ?????, as I assumed you were speaking for ??? ?????, and I meant moral support. The problem today is IMHO not so much secular Zionism as religious Zionism; even worse is the tacit approval of supposedly non-Zionists. The Zionists, both secular and religious, are mostly tinokos shenishbu. Those Mizrachi settlers nebach think they’re moser nefesh for the greatest mitzva (much like NK), but the yeshivishe and chassidishe oilom should know better. Every time a yid rejoices in his heart over a Zionist victory, he rejoices over a ????? ????. Hashem was ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ????? in order to spare ??? ?????but those fools do the opposite. Where’s the heter to spill Jewish blood for the sake of the land, or even the kosel? We should educate our misled brothers instead of going along with their foolish martyrdom. I write this with the greatest pain for the innocent korbanos of this insanity Hy”d. May we never hear of such tragedies again.

“Now that I know all about the evil Secular Zionists etc., what should I do?”

Stop supporting this ????? ?? ?????. Stop celebrating the military victories of these ????? that are a thorn in H’s eyes. (Yes, I know there are many religious soldiers, but the army in general is a nest of sin.) Of course we need to focus on our own shortcomings too, but when the cause-&-effect are so obvious, we don’t go looking for indirect causes like lashon hara or kibud av vaem.

Someone died in an accident while driving on Shabbos, and the Steipler (or chazon ish?) said it was b/c of Shabbos. When asked how he knows, many people are ???? ??? and dont die, he said, “If the torah says ?????? ??? ???? the cause is obvious. We dont go looking for other causes.”

If a smoker has lung cancer, nobody says it’s b/c he didnt exercise enough.

You may be surprised to find that IRL most NK members, even the fringe members, are gentle and softspoken people who wouldn’t hurt a fly. They’re extremely naive and tmimusdig and are really convinced they’re doing the right thing. And when Arabs come up to them and tell them, “I was ready to blow myself up in Israel but you convinced me that not all Jews are Zionists,” do you blame them for believing in their cause? To the best of my knowledge they’re included in ??? and we’re mechuyav to judge them favorably, even if we vehemently disagree with them (which I do).

I’ll bet he doesn’t know exactly what “nothing doing” means and just tried to impress you with his English.

Do you have any idea about the severity of one aveira b’meizid? One chilul shabbos r”l?

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.??? ????”? ???? ???? ??????? ?????

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for chassidus, but davka our strengths can become stumbling blocks for BTs.

Everyone should read Smile66’s comment. Tznius is like tzedaka. Chazal say if a person says, “I’ll give this tzedaka so that my son should live”, he has done a complete mitzva, even though he has an ulterior motive. Why? Because the poor will benefit just the same. Same here. Even if you’re not really up to wearing the tznius levush, if you do so anyway, the men around you will benefit just as if you were. The purpose is served and your zechus is complete.