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Wow, Always, spot on! I’m an FFB but now that you pointed it out I can attest to every word! I thought they only treat frum Jews like that. It didn’t occur to me that they also treat each other like that. I must add that modern religious Jews treat us with the same coldness and arrogance. I wonder how they treat each other.
MP, I learned this remez in school, plus this: the eight days stands for bris milah, which is done on the eighth day. So in Chanukah we see all three mitzvos the yevanim forbade: Shabbos, Milah, Chodesh.
Many good comments here. Another case in point: Before the seforim of the Chfetz Chaim became widespread, EVERYONE was talking lashon hora, including the biggest rebbetzins. Does that make it right?
Yeah, right.
Soliek, +1!
Scissors, ???? ?????. We FFBs have our share of ???????. At least you know there’s nowhere to run back to. Please realize that the negative you encounter has nothing to do with frumkeit and all to do with inner-city bigotry, narrow-mindedness, and conspicuous consumerism. I know many OOT (and OOUSA) FFBs who are even frummer than the ones you live amongst, and they’re open-minded, accepting, and well-mannered.
Sam, “Not everyone agrees that the elbows and knees must be covered…”
Of those that don’t, 50% of their kids text on Shabbos.
I know this is happening, I’m just not convinced that it’s so widespread. If it’s “part of growing up” (r”l), most of us would’ve been molested, or at least knew more than a few victims of molestation. And if that were the case, nobody would deny the problem. The reason so many don’t believe it must be because it’s NOT widespread, and surely not as widespread BY FAR as among the goyim, or the Catholic clergy with their crazy curse of celibacy. This is simple common sense. Seeing abuse everywhere is just as foolish as seeing it nowhere. I’m all for your crusade, but don’t exaggerate, please, and have a little respect for our rabbonim and mesorah. No, we are not like them. (I’m not referring to those who watch goyishe shmutz, of course. Even if they’re “frum”, they’re human. Looking at shiksas or worse is not exactly conductive to kedusha.)
Aries, it still makes no sense. If it’s part of growing up, how come none of my kids or siblings knows about such things b”H? When I warn them about that, they don’t even know what I’m talking about. Only one brother had one sub (NOT Rebbe) who took kids on his lap. The only explanation I can think of is that your chevraman is himself a molester. Like some people with mental illness try to pretend that the whole world is mentally ill.
Another point. My father, a tzaddik of a yid, still refuses to believe that parental molestation is possible. He’s so far from such filth, he can’t imagine it happening. I’m sure many rabbonim are like that. We should try to explain it to them, of course, but instead of denigrating them, we should appreciate their purity, and the holiness of Klal Yisrael, that prevents them from seeing the truth.
Mytake, only a teensy bit confused? I can’t make heads or tales of the Eichman riddle. And his post making a shining example of the biggest Zionist reshaim – for ?? ???? ???? no less! – is creepy.
Aries, are you sure that Chassidishe yungerman understood what molested means? For all I know he thought it means chapping petch! The story makes no sense otherwise.
Cabbage=?????
Stuffed cabbage=????????, ??????? ?????
Originial Thinker is giving me the creeps. Secular Spirituality? Badly informed Christian Zionist? Please figure him out for me.
OK, let’s make it interesting.
Do you ALWAYS run with scissors fast?
Do you always run WITH SCISSORS fast?
Do you always run with scissors FAST?
Or do you SOMETIMES run with scissors fast?
Or always run (sometimes empty-handed) fast?
Or always run with scissors (sometimes slow)?
Is it possible to run slow?
Just one more question:
Are you related to Mrs. Critique who may always know the answers correctly?
If yes, please ask her for me: Is it possible to know answers incorrectly? Is it possible to “may always” anything?
TIA. I’ve been trying to wrap my head around these two galus-long SN’s ever since they appeared.
Tzadikim don’t ALWAYS run with scissors fast, unless they ALWAYS make upsherins.
Tzadikim don’t always run with scissors fast either.
Another thing, tzadikim don’t waste their time on the internet.
Thanks, Always, but that doesn’t make me a tzaddik.
“Yes we all think of ourselves as tzaddikim who even though we do “occasionaly” sin al in all we are such righteous people.”
Seriously? Well then, count me out. I don’t.
“What is most important in that area is to make sure to wear an outdated form of headgear. Fedora, shtreimel, or any such item will do.”
Exactly. In the Torah it’s called ?????????? ?? ????. The more different from the goyim, the better. And whoever makes fun of this or any mitzva, is ???? ??. I’m afraid this CR is becoming a ???? ????.
I saw one of those females (I refuse to call them women) in a chassidish men’s clothing store, walking among the men without shame. UGH!
Saying ????? ??? after lighting Shabbos candles.
Taking care of the eiruv (so you can “carry”).
Note: Going to Shotzer Rov’s kever on Friday requires to take upon yourself a ??? ???.
With the info explosion the question became more complex. Almost any Jew, anywhere, can be as knowledgeable nowadays about Judaism as Jews growing up in the NY area in R’ Moshe’s time.
No, not REALLY. So why don’t you just go along with the yeshiva’s rules since it makes no real difference to you.
Couldn’t agree more. If you have extra money, give more ????.
Ask him to go brisk-walking with you every evening. And give him loads of nachas so he’ll have less stress. Cut your expenses and think of ways to help save $$$.
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Doesn’t this mean that ??? ????? IS ????? ??, i.e. in the Torah? ??? ?? ???? ?? ????? ??
“Then there is the issue of Merida Ba’umos, which would only apply to the acts of sabotage against the British.”
Oh yeah? Are the Arabs excluded from the Umos?
Kapusta is Hungarian. Uhnshparin is leaning. Ainshpurin is save.
zahavasdad, go to truetorahjews, AKA Netrunah. Very sensible and informative. They even explain how they are different from NK.
I have no appetite to regurgitate this issue. If you’re really looking for answers, go to True Torah Jews.
I thought you said wake up to do teshuva. A new year, so many tragedies.
BTGuy, Kol hakavod for your refreshing attitude of appreciation and humility.
“He is also a Kohen! Based on the fact that his nephew with the same last name is a Kohen :)”
That’s right. Mazeh (name of Moscow rav, BTW), spelled ???”?, stands for ???? ????.
Jackie Mason, a rabbi, a yachsan, a Kohen… Reminds me somehow of The Prince and the Pauper. Sad.
“one could certainly make a case for the similarity of its current state to the origin of x-anity.”
That’s what I meant. Thanks.
If what mod 80 says is true, the onus is on Chabad to prove how it’s different from Xtianity.
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Is she abusive at times? Putting you down for things you can’t help, like your looks?
This Saul J. Berman calls himself Orthodox? Unbelievable.
If you’d be perfect, you wouldn’t be here.
“Except MO are not following Avi Weiss.”
Yet.
Feif: The danger of chareidim following NK off the cliff is infinitesimal compared to the danger of MO following Avi Weiss. The chareidi rabbis were merely yotzei ?????? ????? ??’ ???????. None of them thinks their followers will turn NK.
“shlishi & msseeker- Look why don’t You call the Poskim and ask them?”
Because I don’t have a shaila. If I wanted to wear a long shaitel I’d definitely ask.
Bottom Line: LWMO is just reinventing the broken wheel of Haskalah, Reform, Conservatism etc.
“How many Charedi Rabbis denounce Neteuri Karta??”
Too many to list. Hisachdus Horabonim, for starters.
“GMan: Actually they’re here all the time in the CR (and elsewhere online) defending themselves.”
By hocking against chareidim.
Every single one of the poskim who were mattir shaitels would be scandalized by today’s shaitels, especially the long ones, and I dare anyone to contend otherwise.