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maybe she needs to talk to a psychologist because if she has low self motivation to do anything she probably needs someone to give it to her like a psychologist. College is a great place to help people make them into a someone. she can go become a doctor and be very religious and she can start at a community college and then when shes ready to switch she can switch to an actual college and then go become whatever kind of doctor or whatever kind of good job she wants. I use to be the same way i never thought i would make it thru but my parents pushed me. maybe you can mentor her and help her get into college and seminary and help her through her difficulties if she doesnt have parents to help her do that?
tend is a very strong word. we dont know who your talking about.
i dont believe you never got accepted to any seminary all seminaries accept good frum girls unless their not jewish….. (even i probably would get into a good seminary even tho i never went to high school and went to college instead just because im very religious and very into academics and have good grades b’h).
either way he became a doctor and worked as a doctor and he was still very special even while working as a doctor.
i also have add i did what i keep saying for her to do. it is VERY hard for me every day i hope i dont cause a chilul Hashem when i leave the classroom because i get distracted and need to leave and take a walk or get a snack, etc… or texting during class to take a break…but my teachers know about the issues with me because i told them and the school told them so its not a chilul Hashem they know i have issues…. in the beginning it was rough but now i also am enjoying it and im gonna do something in the med field h’h and make lots of money to support my husband in kollel. i would definitely recommend it and if she needs to bored and go to college and go to a night seminary she can do that too.
reb yidd – if the lady is older than the man than statistically theyll both not be widows for too long thats what mammele was saying and i agree with.
that is not necessarily true what about if a person went to college became a doctor and other than the gashmiyus job he has he stays up learning all night when the one in kollel goes to sleep. i would say the doctor is the better person. The rambam was a doctor and a huge talmid chacham bigger than anyone from this generation plus he was a huge doctor.
How do you know im not very spiritual when it happens to be i am? also im probably becoming an ncsy advisor thanks to seeing what i saw happened to that boy since i want to help people like that.
sheva – why not send her to college during the day and let her get a good degree and go to seminary at night (for hashkafa)?
But the guy im referring to gets ride with not jewish girls. its better for him to go with jewish girls than not jewish. his referring to guys who go with other jewish girls. this guy is in a more serious condition. i know him because his in my class and we always have class discussions like in a high school.
me. my type.
Psychology is a very obvious subject thats why its an easy a.
Joseph – what about the hidden tzadikim?
ubiquiton – people should rank themselves first before ranking others look at your self before you look at someone else.
reb yid – this is the issue with some people learning in kollel only the best of the best should learn the rest should work to support them.
We should not rank people allow Hashem to do the “ranking”.
This is true you cant judge people who work they may want to learn full time but they need to support their families.
because of its a persons instinct to want to do what others do. so thats why people want to wear in style clothing to be like others. (psychology.) I took 2 courses of those and love quoting from my classes their very interesting.
this is not true. i work to support a husband.
neoimos. i think the best for her is to stay home and go to college and night seminary i know it might sound tough but its a good idea for someone her age who isnt in high school anymore.
oh didnt know about the financial issue but how do all the rabbis send their daughters there if there the ones who say they make the least money? Someone convinced me that their 2 michlalas one for yeshivish and for modern is this true?
where i live it means yeshivish,
okay thanks.
daas yochid – it shouldnt be done it isnt nice. how would you like it if people ranked you?
like who? his sister knows but he probably doesnt listen to her…. so why not grab the mitzvah?
please give me a subtitle. what about yeshivish girl in college
im referring to another girl how do you know im not talking about my sister? and thats not true in my class we have much older people who came back when there retired or someone who never went to college before etc… to someone as young as 16.
does anyone know how someone can get in contact with rabbi wallerstien regarding religious personal issues i know a girl who wants to get in contact with him?
no clue im new here.
this is unfortunately true but dont forget that there has to be special people who will get the zechus of supporting them like the 2 shivatim one supported the other learnt.
but then who will help him? also how do you know were the same age? how do you know im a girl and not a boy?
not always and this is true we shouldnt measure and rank people. whoever Hashem wants a person to marry rather they get the zechus to marry someone learning or not does not make them a better or worse person.
There is no reason. Some people are just more religious than others and some are less religious than others. Some have a stronger desire to fulfill Hashem’s mitzvo’s than others.
me.
an hour ago. (lol.)
write or wrong – hows your son doing? its REALLY sad that this happened:( i have seen a boy like your son in my college class and its REALLY sad:( if your son is back on let me know and how would you recommend me helping a boy at college whos in the same issue.
their very religious.
Making money to support your husband is not gashmiyus even if you go to college and get a top paying job like a pharmacist it still isnt gashmiyus its a huge mitzvah.
because i never want to high school because i was homeschooled everyone else is coming straight from high school im coming from college
moderators can you please give me a subtitle? something about loving Hashem and mitzvo’s? Thanks.
shopping – you can be rich and frum how do you think the rabbis wifes support them? they come from wealthy families and their parents support their husbands. We should be rich and able to do mitzvos with the money Hashem gave to us.
Would you recommend it for me? I was looking into it only problem is that i didnt go to high school only college and i love learning and i am a straight a student just didnt go to high school unfortunately and i am use to staying up and studying the whole night thanks to bio and chem and i love connecting all the fascinating things i learn in bio and chem to the Torah and i do study bymyself judaic studies.
after going to college no seminary is as much academic as a degree in the medical field like doctor, dentist, or pharmacist. But seminary is an excellent place to study and get closer to Hashem no matter how much work there is.
BYA
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ask them not us.
why not? if i dont think he would approve it maybe im doing something wrong?
dont know what i did for my own personal reasons was go to college at that young age there really is so much a girl can do. Maybe touro and a new york night seminary?