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Wolf the answer is becuz the Torah sez so. Why are you questioning the Torah? Do you think you no better than the aibeshter about which is worse. He said suicide is worse — thats it the end. Asking these types of questions makes it look like you no better. and you dont.
“You cannot compare the days of the Volozhin yeshiva to today. The need for formal secular studies as a prerequisite for entering the workforce is *much different* than it was in that time and place.”
Halacha doesnt change if its a diffrent time or place. If it was assur then then its assur now.
“(For those of you who think I’m committing some horrible sin by playing games with my kids/nieces/nephews/wife — don’t bother correcting me — I’m not listening.)”
What you mean is Im going to do an aveira and I dont care what you think. In the times of the gemara we used to put people like that in a kippah.
“There’s a name to this game that you’re playing. It’s called “my rav is bigger than your rav.” I don’t play that game. “
No yur playin a game called Im not gonna listen to the gedolim becuz I can listen to my rov. Unless your rov is greater than those gedolim how can you follow him?
Wolf what “yeshiva” are you sending yur son to that he is forced to shave an be oiver a deorissa?
“A more important question to ask is (and I know I’m going to the lowest circle of gehenim for even suggesting this) — is R. Kanievsky’s teshuva normative halacha?”
Yes you are going. Who are you to question R. Chaim one of the gedolei hador. If he says its assur than its assur. Period.
“In short, the answer is not banning, but education.”
And who do you think youare to disagree with R. Wallerstein?
“Does it matter? Why is a stranger different (vis-a-vis “al tarbeh…”) than Mrs. Katz, the wife of a fellow who davens in my shul?”
No there both wrong. You shouldnt be doing eithr.
“it doesn’t mean that talking during dinner with your spouse is extra.”
Depends on what it is. If its important like choosing a yeshiva for the kids or arranging a doctor appointment or discussing what food is for shabbos then yes. but not to stam shmooze.
“So, I suppose that all unnecessary conversation with one’s wife is also forbidden, since the Mishna specifically includes one’s wife?
So, no saying “good morning” to my wife? It’s not really necessary. No talking about books we’ve read? It’s not really necessary either. No pleasant chat over dinner unless we’re talking household matters? No talking while we’re taking a walk?”
YES thats exactly what it means. You talk to yur wife so that yur house can function normally and you raise the kids. Theres no heter for frivilus talk like good morning or talking about books or anything else thats not important.
“because I don’t belong to any one hashkafah. “
Thats so wrong. At least pick a hashkafah and be proud ofit.
“The Wolf (who, BTW, has gone “mixed swimming” — alone with his wife). “
For the 10000000th time: MIXED SWIMMING IS ASSUR. You cant swim mixed – even with yur wife. And yes I have a source — the Kedushas Shoshanim perek 17 seif 4 sez yur not aloud to look at yur wife when shes undressed even when tahor. Unless you swim fully clothed yur oiver on that. Theres no reason to say that theres an exception to mixed swimming with yur wife, just liek theres no exception to lashon hara with yur wife, or eating kosher with yur wife or any other mitzvah.
“And some Chareidim who steal”
Someone who steals is not a charedi. And not everyone who you think steals is really stealilng khalacha.
“I don’t self-identify with any group. I share certain ideologies with the “yeshivish” movement, some with what is identified as “MO” and possibly even some with the chassidic world.”
So how do you no witch parts to pick and choose? How do you no yur doing the right thing by taking this part of yeshivish and that part of modern and the other part of chasidish? What about ase lcha rav?
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“It worked for me less than 20 years ago. I never went on a “shidduch date” in my life.”
Why do you keep bosting about doing something that is wrong?
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“And, sadly, I cannot do teshuva for it, as I don’t really regret it. 🙁 “
So youll just answer for it on the yom hadin. I wouldnt want to be you then.
“Talking in shul is one of my pet peeves. I personally cannot stand it when people talk in shul (although, to be brutally fair and honest, I am one of the worst offenders during krias haTorah).”
If it bothers you that much stop talking. Or are you happier being a hipocrit who is mad at people for talking when you do it yourself.
“Tumah isn’t something you can touch or feel.”
You can feel tuma. You just have to be sensitive enouf to it. Obviously yur not.
“You are aware that a shtreimel was originated by the Polish aristocracy, right? “
Why do you lie about chasidim. They would never wear goyishe clothing. Did you forget lo shinu as malbushum.
i think you owe every chosid who weres a streimel an apoligy.
“Indeed, that’s the painful choice we had to make last year. Last year none of our kids went to camp — it just wasn’t economically possible. This year, sadly, is the same.”
If yur letting yur kids stay home and watch the TV all day yur bringing them harm. Every1 nos that a free summer without rules can undo all the work that a yeshvia did for the kid all year.
No its not the same but the same thing applies. Their both dangers of differant kinds and you haveto protect yurself against both.
“I also got to play Scrabble with Eeees (we love to play that game together) and Trivial Pursuit.”
Al Tarbeh Sicha doesnt just mean talking. It means spending too much time. Remember Ezra made takanos so that men shouldnt always be by theyre wifes.
“When my mother tried to get me into a yeshiva, she encountered all sorts of problems. Most schools simply weren’t interested in welcoming a child of divorce who was a ba’al teshuva. One prominent yeshiva in Brooklyn was willing to take me on condition that I have absolutely no contact with my father. My mother turned them down flat.”
Thats not discrimnaation. Its being responsible. The school has to make sure that the kids in the school arent influinced by something you might get from yur father. If they let you in then theyre putting the other kids at risk.
Yes they do. How canyou marry some1 whose hashkafah is different than yours? How can you agree on how to raise the kids or run the house?
And who knows if their really a maamin anyway?
“I would *never* put forth a “Devil’s Advocate” argument that the Torah is false.”
Not true. You do that all the time. Ive seen yur posts wear you try to show again and again that the torahs not true. Everytime some1 shows you that the torah is true becuz of a proof you try to destroy it and the emunah of the people who read it.
“Kasha, according to Rabbi Avigdor Miller, tz’l, there will be a time of intense hatred of Talmidei Chochomin in the days soon before Moshiach.”
Very sad but you even seeit here in the cofferoom. One poster especially loves to denigrate talmidei chochomim.
“I love how this little nugget gets trotted out every now and again when it’s completely irrelevant to today’s professional world.
The ways in which we do business (which includes holding a job) are much different today than they were in the Rambam’s time. There are very few jobs available for people to work only three hours a day and those jobs are generally not the type at which you can make a living doing that and nothing else.”
How dare you talk aboutthe Rambam that way! Everything the Rambam writes is 100% valid today. If he says that a ben torah or whatever the exact wording is only works 3 ours then thats the way a ben torah does it. If you want to disqualify yourself as a ben torah or whatever term he uses then go ahead and work more ours.
“Do you disagree that a married woman’s hair is for her husband? “
Alot of chassidic women dont even show theyre husbands theyre hair. And yes Im talking about the ones who dont shave it all off – they still keep it covered always even in front of their husbands. Halevai all women should be so tznius in front of their husbands and certainly in public.
“So, is it safe to assume that you believe frum women shouldn’t operate (let alone patronize) a lingerie shop (as, I believe, Kasha believes*)?”
Those stores shouldnt exist since it promotes people being untznius in the home. Even a husband and wife has to show some tznius and wearing lingere is so against that that I cant think of any reaons why it shouldbe muttar for such a store to sell to frum yidden.
“but it may have to be done to get through this terrible problem infesting our streets if nothing else works. It would be done out of pain and hope for change. “
It should absolutly be done. IF a molester moved into the neighborhood, youd picket to keep youre kids safe, right? Well why shouldnt you picket to keep your neshomo and the neshamos of your husbands and children safe?
Of course women should try to dress like Kimchis. We should all strive for the highest levels that we can. Who wants to remain at a low level all theyre lives?
“You can’t eat pork with anyone (“I will not eat them in a boat. I will not eat them with a goat”), but you are allowed to be home alone together with your wife”
What does being alone hafta do with swimming. Their 2 totaly different things.
There are somethings you can do with yur wife that you cant do with anyone else, but you cant do everything. Just like theres no acception for all the other things I said so too theres no acception for mixed swimming.
“You are allowed to be alone with your mother and sisters just like you’re allowed to swim with them (unless you’ve decided that that’s assur too, and if you do I’d like to see sources for all this mishegass of yours), so why can’t you swim with your wife?”
Who said yur aloud to swim with yur mother and sister once yur older?
“And please, learn how to spell! (Unless spelling properly in English is not something approved by the rabbonim…) “
Im sorry. I no Im a horrable speller. Ill try better.
“ILLNESS of depression”
Just becuz doctors say something is an illness doesnt mean it is. There are others things that doctors say are born in us but we as Torah yidden who know right from wrong know are a choice.
“It was said as GOOD ADVICE”
If it was just good advice then he wouldnt have used the words MITZVAH GEDOLAH!
sof I didnt say he should copy I just said that his opinion doesnt determine what the halacha is. Noone said he hasta copy the book.
“I’m really curious wear the source is that says swimming with one’s wife IS assur.”
Are you curious abotu where it says its assur to eat pork with yur wife? Or say loshon hara with yur wife? Or wear shatnez with yur wife? It doesnt say it becuz its assur all the time. So is mixed swimming. It doesnt matter if yur wife is with you or not.
“ILLNESS of depression”
Just becuz doctors say its an illness doesnt make it so. They also say that being a certin orientation using lashon naki is also not in yur control but born that way. We who keep the torah know differently.
“It was said as GOOD ADVICE”
If it was said as good advice then why does it use the words mitzvah gedolah. If it meant good advice their are lots of other words he couldve used.
The news story said he was found not guilty.
“In any event, it still didn’t feel right to me”
Halacha is not about what feels right to you. Its about what the torah says is right and if the torah says its right to copy then it is and your feelings are kneged those of the torah.
“If it actually said that in the Torah or the Talmud, I would agree. Please show me the exact place and quote where it does, and I will not say another word on this subject. “
If thats the way our gedolim do it then thats obviously the way were suposed to do it. Our gedolim show us the way.
“There is absolutely nothing wrong in asking questions”
Hes not asking a question anymore. When he says the answer is unsatisfying now hes being mevazeh chazal. He had a question and chazal answerd it. If he says the answer is unsatisfying then hes saying that chazals words arent good enuf for him. Thats a bizayon of torah.
“But does it necessarily follow that someone who wears a nice, clean, pressed, etc. blue shirt is not looking respectable?”
In the yeshivish world it is disrespectful to wear a colord shirt.
“My friend went to meet the rosh yeshiva about shidduch possibilities and he emphasized to her very strongly that a shidduch with a cc boy means she will be supporting him for at least 10 years, $50K-$60K a year. And he made her understand that SHE would be supporting him.
Ummm…..
IS THIS TRUE?????????????????????? “
Asking for such a high price for buchrim shows the chashivus of Torah and learning. A girl who really values Torah will pay for it.
“U DONT HAVE TO COMMENT ON EVERY SINGLE THREAD. “
I dont. Their are plenty of threads that I dont comment on.
“It’s a nickname.”
Didnt I read somwhere that some1 who uses a nickname for another person loses their olam habah even if the person says they dont mind the nickname?
Sorry I dont remember where I read it but Im certin that I did.
“Mosherose, mixed swimming with your spouse is assur? I don’t follow that logic. He mentioned he had a private pool.”
Mixed swimming is assur. I havent seen a single sefer that says that theres an acception for swimming with yur wife. If you no of one let me no.
Just becuz its yur wife doesnt make it muttar. Not everything is muttar with yur wife. There are plenty of things that are assur even with yur wife.
If were told to be careful how much to talk with our wifes (Mishna Avos) then how much more so before doing something as frivolus as swimming with them.
“It was very nice — various activities available — and we had a room with our own private pool (not very large, but still private and ours).”
Mixed swimming is assur! We went thru this before.
“They make accommodations for kosher meals (you get the airline-style meals). It’s about a half hour away from Scranton as I recall. We had a great time and wouldn’t mind going back some day.”
Can you garantee that no one fools arond with it to make it treif before it gets to you? How can you go to a hotel without a hechsher? You have no idea what goes on in the kitchen.