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October 31, 2013 8:54 am at 8:54 am in reply to: Onslaught of Frum People That Are Closet Atheists #984409moronMember
Dear yungerman from Lakewood!
You are right that you question! Your doubts are valid and in place! Being brought up in America or any liberal country gives you the understanding that because my parents accepted something it does not mean that I have to and in yidishkeit that’s a no no! So I understand you all the way!! But no one can prove beyond a reasonable doubt the age of the world ! When you say million years you mean to say the body of time that according to today’s 365 day a year and 24 hours a day times 60 minutes and 60 seconds the world looks like it’s very old! But the word year means the circle of the earth around the sun so if the earth wasn’t always at a constant but took a longer amount of time to circle itself and the sun the world can be any age and the scientific world can’t oppose it! So if you are just a skeptic and you want the possibility to believe in the mesoire of our toire maybe you can!
There are lots of mekoirois for the possibility that the first 6 days of creation were longer than all other days! There are mekoirois for all types of interesting things that for some reason are not taught in our chadorim but they would make the world older even according to the toire like the yavatz….
Now if you really think that the toire way is false and you just keep it on the outside for other people I really feel bad for you! It’s the worst feeling ever you should see a therapist just to keep you sane! But if you’re a skeptic you aren’t an apikoiress so you can enjoy you life of yidishkeit with your wife and children! and hang in there you might just find the answers at the end! we are all waiting for them!!
October 30, 2013 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm in reply to: Onslaught of Frum People That Are Closet Atheists #984400moronMemberThis certainly is a discussion not for little children and all your responses are on the level of 2 year olds!!
so if the yungerman from Lakewood has some kashois on yidishkeit he is entitled to look for answers and he’s even more entitled to keep his kashois to himself!!!
But I don’t understand how come out of love for your wife and children you won’t bring them to the light of truth if you think you’ve got the truth? do you want your son growing up as a believer in the toire or do you want to give him a chance at doing something useful like bringing new medicines for illnesses etc.. It’s something that is a worthy cause according to any and every religion in the world why teach him to spend all his energy for something you doubt?
is your love for your wife and children real or is it your fear of not finding a stable place [wife] and freinds in another setting? are you giving up truth for comfort?
now if all you have is doubts and you still have a tzad that all the gedoiley yisroel together werent smarter than you i understand that you have to give yourself a chance to explore yidishkeit in every way possobile and if you get answers to all your questions please post them!!
they surely will help others!!
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