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R’ Aharon certainly paskened many shaalos and held unique shaalos in halacha; he has two chalakim of teshuvos (Teshuvos Mishnas Reb Aharon), some very fascinating. Though primarily he certainly was the father of all Roshey Yeshivos
1- Bassinet, Yeharog V’Al Yaavor. Threaten to sue. Request beforehand. Confirm beforehand. Confirm at the desk. Confirm at the gate.
2- Night flight! Direct flight! If you have a stopover, make sure they will give your stroller during the stopover. If it’s a big stroller (baby jogger, etc.) they probably won’t(because they will have put in the hold). Fly w/an umbrella stroller if you can. If not, get a baby carrier, which is a life saver anyways when you are pushing luggage.
3- Bring ten million diapers & baby supplies. You can easily be delayed – try 24 hours! – , and no one will tell baby. Bring disinfectant, because those plane changing tables are nasty, or a diaper matt.
4- Bring formula (powder packets are easiest, but they should let you bring formula/milk past security), even if you nurse. Baby gets hungry when they are waiting for the go ahead to fly, and you’re not allowed to get up – or at least bring a blanket (hard to do it right) – or even off the plane, when it’s not practical to nurse in public. Often the tense flying experience will make a bottle necessary, anyway (many times). And they will heat up bottles (seal for kasherus, the bottle itself – the top – isn’t enough because it’s open, make sure they heat it up w/the cover- PS – ELAL is treif).
5- Find the nearest seminary girl. Make friends. Give her your baby. Go to sleep.
6- Babies often has a rough time during takeoff & landing – their ears are sensitive. Be ready to comfort them – ask the flight attendants for eitzahs beforehand (wet towels, etc.).
7- Ask when preboarding (for kids) is. Often, if you don’t ask, there won’t be any preboarding. Elal isn’t so interesting in kids. They smell.
8- Elal has a great jewish music channel & frum movie channel. Great way to distract baby (or yourself).
Been there, done that, many times bli ayin hara. Enjoy!
Wolf – I think you’re right; but I’ve been in that position; the Rav is going to babble about silliness & I’ve got a daf to finish. Usually I will try to slip out.
Sacri – you’re right about Sheva Brachos or Chasunos. R’ Aharon Shecter once saw a bachur w/a mishniyos at a wedding. He said to ” What are you doing? Why aren’t you dancing?” “Rebbe, Bitul Torah!”
“Fine – IYH, remind before your chasuna, to remind everyone to bring mishniyos”
Thank you Doc! I would add that in Eretz Yisrael, specifically in Bney Brak, many rely on the Chazon L’Ish L’Kulo U’L’Chumra, who frequently and often dramatically disagrees with the Mishnah Berurah. And yes, there is a Chazon Ish Mishnah Berurah , that lists whenever the Chazon Ish disagrees.
There are many sources besides “Tu B’Av” that show that the stringencies of modern day Chassidus were not the norm throughout the vast majority of our history.
Great, What does Shulchan Aruch when writes “????? ?? ????? ???? ????”
What he Chassidic? PS: Please tell me what it means, not what it doesn’t.
Aries, let’s be honest. You are very capable of passion and anger when we talk about issue that are close to your heart – because YOU CARE. We care too – not only about child molestation, but about tzinius, the role of women in the workplace, and the frumkeit of our children. WE CARE. This “let’s all sing kumbaya” attitude is based on “none of this matters anyway”.
True, we should not judge people individually – because, maybe they are doing THE WRONG THING because of life circumstance or because of a lack of education or because they genuinely have a different opinion – unless, of course, they are in Kollel – but yes, we have opinions, because these are things that matter.
Things are right and wrong, and we need to say that, and no, Kumbaya is not more important. And, sometimes we say will that strongly.
This place is about opinion and discussion. You have the opposite opinions of some the opinions here, so you would prefer if we didn’t care, and instead sang Kumbaya. Would you say this about mathematics? Medicine? Proper health? Financial planning? Kumbayah! WAIT – no, that matters…
You wouldn’t sing kumbayah about anything you cared about. Guess what. We care.
Don’t hide your disdain for the way we care about Torah & Frumkiet issues behind achdus. If this were an issue you cared about, you’d express it loudly and clearly, as you just did.
Achdus means – EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE WRONG – I can still treat you like a human being, still respect you, – but you are wrong. And I will be clear about that. Don’t tell me to sing Kumabayah. Sing Kumbayah about something you care about.
Again, it’s not assur. There’s no issur negiah, and presumably the women will stop dancing. The question if it ever ends there.
How on earth does that work Halachicaly? (Honest question, not looking to start a jihad).
gimme a break, SJS only has MO creds here. I’ll in real life she’s on the opposite side with the real hard core MO people in MO land (I think it’s somewhere near LA). She hangs out here because she is a closet charedi.
Excellent. So Gavra, what does it mean?
A ‘famed shadchan’ reads tefillin bags…I guess this is a more effecient version
Wolf is right. The Rambam uses the word “ALLAH” all the time (in the original). It just means God – aka Hashem. So, may Allah be with you all.
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Charlie – the CIA program did a great deal of correlation – remember, over a 100 people were in “the program” (only 3 got waterboard, two thirds were cooperative immediately). SO they asked question they already knew the answers too, and correlated with the others.
I think ultimately they got a lot of actionable intelligence and saved thousands of lives. But the legal question remains.
Wolf VS Mods…pass the popcorn…,
No no mien tireh volf – I just mean, I’d like to know what chazal meant , and not what it doesn’t mean. That’s the Talmudic – and scientific method. Then we’ll know what Chazal meant. Sorry, I got overenthusiastic.
BP, well said!
Yes, it is part of the convention, to investigate & prosecute.
1- People, a nice clean fight. PLEASE no emotional flares from either side.
DING!
Let’s take it to the other extreme. Let us conclude from Chazal that a single man should be analyzing all available single women, in all situations (such as, a wedding), that he may be desire her, and seek her for marriage.
Does this contradict anything else Chazal teach us?
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What do Chazal teach us about looking at women for desire? Is it possible this could be permitted?
Step by step people. Calm down! Intelligent, organized! No bombs from either side!
WOLF – no sarcasm. Back it up. Prove it. Explain it. Present your position. What are Chazal teaching us? Without hysteria or cliches. Just your interpretation of chazal.
A Temani in Yerushalyim told me they taste like french fries.
So please, SJS, let’s start another thread and analyze that fascinating chazal, as well as other chazals, and perhaps find a resolution?
Their scales are an issue of great historical debate; Rav Machpood recently partook of a mesora seudah in Tel Aviv that served swordfish.
But it’s true, most Poskim tell us to stay away from them (only the little ones have scales, and they can’t be taken off).
SJS – come on, do you have to hijack the thread with an MO bomb? I’m pretty sure the question was based on the assumption that men and women should not be dancing together, and that there should be a mechitzah between men’s and women’s dancing at wedding, and they were wondering if there was an exception for daddy daugther. If you like, we can discuss the chazal. But I don’t think it’s going to answer our question.
Because, I mean, we grew on the same street, so obviously he looks at me as sister, duh, so it’s totally fine…right…
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…because the opinion was repudiated later by the DOJ. So by approving waterboarding (ironically, unlike SecDef Rumsfeld, who refused to let the DOD do it in Gitmo)…so ultimately, it boils down to morality – where I think he was completely correct, but legally – indeed. And do we really disagree with the convention on torture? In theory, but the question is about letting the genie out of the bottle. So it boils down to if water boarding is torture.
I think it is, just doesn’t leave permanent damage. Oh well! Moshe, you are indeed correct.
Yes, what is piety and impiety?
True. You are correct, legally speaking. But it’s on record that Bush received authorization from the DOJ, so how can he prosecuted?
Charlie, I dare not argue with a man in his realm.
True, he did get that opinion the Justice Department ( at the time).
But why is it different from killing? Does the commander-in-chief Obama need to prove necessity ever time he blows off the head of a taliban chief? Is the burden of proof on obama? Should we prosecute him and let him prove it? Killing is also illegal. We kill to protect our country.
Killing a terroist is better then torturing him?
Ah…the ???? ????? …???? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ???? ….of course, his intention was against the mitzvah tantz. I think that the problem is that ultimately it never ends there and everyone ends up on everyone else side. Same with the Kallah coming to the choson’s side. First the shvigger has to come, and her mother, and of course her sisters, and I’m like a sister, and what, of course we shoudl watch, so the mechitzah gets moved but half of the ezras nashim is still dancing…
Not in Shulchan Aruch. Seems secheldik not to do.
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Of course Gavra! That’s why Rishonim will never argue with a Medrash…. wait…
So what Bush did was moral, right? This is a purely legal issue of an immoral law?
please, D9, could you quote for us the Chafetz Chaim’s that you are referring to? You know where he speaks about asking about people’s financial situation over a shabbos table (!) and how horrible a girl is for wanting learned husband?
Please, the chafetz chaim also speaks of condemning an entire community – or entire Jewish people – and he does not speak kindly of it.
Excellent. But could you answer my question?
Lomed, you sound very arrogant. Best by ready if someone actually ask you back up what you are saying. And don’t expect any friendly rachmanus if you’re just quoting your 10th grade rebbe.
msseeker: What is with the “We” and “Yours”? That is a big part of the problem. We are all “Us”. We are all yidden and must come together to solve problems. Anything less is divisive.
That sounds nice, but you haven’t answered his question. We’re talking about the approach of one community versus the success of another.
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Moshe, what about Halacha? What does the Torah say about torturing terrorist in order to save thousands of lives?
I am a strong believer that there are two flavors of MO – that of Rav Herschel Shachter and that of Avi Weiss.
But, it is historically inaccurate to say that ultimately a great divide did not develop between R’ Yoshe Berr and the other Gedoley Yisroel. But how did we get into this?
I think he should be prosecuted for not doing enough. They had to waterboard KSM 180 times! Waste of water! Electricity would have found us Osama’le with just a few session, and then we could have turned up the voltage.
Haven’t dated in NY for a looong time, B”H. But what happened to all of the smart stuff – the museums, planetariums or even the UN (fascinating) – a friend once tried to take a girl to the intrepid. Bad, bad, bad, idea.
But, other then that – lots of diversion & conversation starters if needed, and usually there’s a cafe or sitting area for a wrap up. Why does it have to the dreaded lounge or a restaurant (not dreaded, just a bit intense if it’s too early)?
The Marriott is excellent though, you can catch a minyan for maariv and probably even learn nightseder w/your chavrusa. So even if the date is a bomb, it’s a win win proposition.
I take it LA Bubby has an Einkel in Lakewood…I’m picturing the conversation 🙂
SJS
I think they are worried how financially it will work out, since the more religious you are in Israel, the more you generally rely on government services.
Charedim are less then half of the religious population in Eretz Yisrael. And even amoungst the Charedim, B”H the working population has grown to about 50%. Not true.
The leftist secular askenzai world is scared of anyone taking away their monopoly on Israeli power – hence, the merciless racism towards sephardim religious or not, Russian Olim (ask Lieberman & Aryeh Deri).
I think you are falling into their media trap.
And by the way…do you know what benefits they are referring to, or how much they cost?
Oh well.
The rulings are very different, based on different approach. While we usually go with the Shulchan Aruch (R’ Yosef Karo with Mapa by R’ Moshe Isserles) the Shulchan Aruch HaRav is considered a major achron in the world of Halacha. Hence, Shulchan Aruch and Shulchan Aruch HaRav. As I understand, Chabad uses the Shulchan Aruch HaRav as their primary source of Halacha, as opposed to the Remah. Elu Elu Divrey Elokim Chaim
She can obligate herself:
a- It is possible for her to have assets that her husband does not have rights over (if someone gives her something ‘al manas sh’en l’baalech reshus baah). In addition, her own personal possessions belong to her.
b- the obligation exists; should her husband die/divorce, the obligation would be applicable.
She is not considered incompetent. In addition, small sums that she may use without her husband permission, in that realm she may make agreements ( many realms of the home are purely her’s; in these areas, her husband clearly acqueises to whatever her will is).
Don’t mind me, as I bang my head against the wall….as everyone tries to touch a different part the elephant.
Could we try this again? Does anyone mind- as an experiment – if I try to work us through this in an organized fashion – and we’ll maybe see that both opinions are valid interpetation based on differing worldviews (aka, the machlokes is not here, and not Halachic) – or should we just keep throwing sources & hearsay at each other, and then get frustrated and call each other names?
I think it’s such a shame to see intelligent people have to resort to name calling. And I think that working through things a little slower would let us get a little clarity.
Both are patur. “Pigiyasam Rah”. A women would have to pay personally if she had assets that did not belong to her husband. A minor, however, is always patur and his parents are patur as well.
I do not know of a source that it is a bad middah.
Lawgirl – You’ve won your case, that’s for certain. And the gap only gets wider; while we hope you file for a marriage license soon – in two year (one?) you’ll be an associate at…oh, ENY or something and then what?
As you said, the gap only widens. Then what?
The only thing I can tell you is that men often thrive after marriage; frankly, as I said before, girls do better then men in their single years. Perhaps seeing a guy’s potential may be worthwhile. Healthy marriages energize men, and they often accomplish far more then they do in their single years, with someone relying on them. But yes, it is absolutely essential to marry some you genuine respect.
And some guys do indeed seek intellectual equals (or better). I did back in the day. Shadchanim redt me “the strange” girls (do you know what it is like to take a chemist to a chinese restaurant?) My friends though, weren’t interested.
I would like to tell myself that it has something to with self-confidence and self-image, but I honestly think it has to do with their image of the ideal feminine (flighty, ditzy, oh so cute) & type of marriage they want. In other words, not better or worse. Just different. B”H my story ended well.
Hatzlacha!
And after wife number three. Guess it helps to be lawyer when that happens.