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February 7, 2014 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm in reply to: What did people do before measuring cups were invented? #1004165MomofsixMember
I have seen a very old cookbook and it uses eggshells as a measurement
As in : “2 eggshells of oil”
Interesting
MomofsixMemberTrue. I speak from a Moroccan perspective.
MomofsixMemberI used to give my daughter a cheap box if tissues and let her pull out one by one early in the morning. It got me an extra half hour to forty five minutes of sleep …
MomofsixMemberOh!!! And I forgot to mention the whole naming after the grandparents that are alive.
That was very strange as well but now that I understand it I am fine with that and hope my kids name for me as well…
MomofsixMemberI can only speak for myself. Wig was never an issue. His mother and sisters wear wigs. One of the big changes was nusach. Davening is different. Benching is different. My first rosh hashana as a married woman was crazy!!! It took me five years to get used to all that. I still can’t bentch by heart because I mix it up.
Speaking Hebrew words with the right sound taf instead of saf. I still feel like a bit of a faker wen I say “Shabbat”
I love the new foods and luckily my mother in law taught me how to cook.
Cholent is different as night and day. Get used to cumin and olives.
You should never know from it but they eat in a house of shiva and Ashkenazim specifically don’t
No shalom Zachor before a milah. But the Zohar is very nice and if done right.. Very mystical. A henna is an awesome custom as well…
I feel like the luckiest person that I got to marry into the warm loving community.
MomofsixMemberI guess it just depends. I wear a Shaitel. And we do eat kitnios on Pesach but not rice.
MomofsixMemberSo as far as the op is concerned. I’m been in this “mixed” marraige over twenty years.
I can say that the differences in minhag are something to get used to. But the warmth and deep dedication to family are some things that I feel I didn’t have before and I love it. I was young when we got married so the changes were easier to make. I didn’t feel “set” in my ashkenaz ways.
MomofsixMemberGolfer: no I did not post as momof4
MomofsixMemberFor the record. As an ashkenaz married to a Sephardi.
5 of our 6 kids have blue eyes
So much for dominant genes.
MomofsixMemberThere is one aspect of all of these theories that nobody has brought up yet as far as I can see.
The way the system is setup now, our daughters are being well educated in their yeshivas because its a good possibility that they will be the breadwinner of their own families.
The boys education, at least in the very frum community I live in is dismal to say the least.
The problem then becomes that my daughters have trouble dealing with the boys their own age (or younger) because they are so poorly educated.
My daughter dates boys close to her age and just comes home rolling her eyes…The younger boys, who have very little life exprerience, are so immature!
If we want our boys out in the dating world sooner, then they need to be prepared!They need to be educated better then they are now. Even if they are going to sit and learn forever, They have to know how to balance a checkbook or how to carry on a normal conversation complete with proper grammer.
The well educated girls should be able to respect their life partners and not feel educationally and worldly superior. That alone is a recipe for disaster.
Give the boys a little real life education and experience and then push them to date younger.
MomofsixMemberI am now a “stay at home” mom of six. I worked outside the house until I had my 5th child.
MomofsixMemberI just want to comment that the silence is deafening…Where are all the unhappy bandsters?
The truth is that even when someone complains about their banding to their friends and relatives they know that ultimately it was the best thing they did. There are some aspects about it that may be less than perfect but on a whole, I cant imagine anyone regretting their band altogether.
MomofsixMemberIts not an appetite supressant…You’re hungry. But when you eat just a little bit you get really really full. Like so full you cant take another bite.
Now, if you wolf down the food so fast you may miss the feeling full and then the infamous vomiting can begin, or if you decide to take another bite anyway even though youre so so full, again, you may vomit.
But if you follow directions, eat at a normal pace and stop when you just cant swallow another bite, you’ll be fine.
Where I used to eat 3 slices of pizza and still be hungry, I now enjoy half a slice and I can go hours without thinking about food again.
The surgeon has a nutritionist on staff who gives you an outline and is avail for questions but really, if im doing well and then I eat a cookie, its ok because its one cookie not a whole box.
I can eat anything but very small amounts. There are those who say they cant tolerate veggies or fruit and thats when all the naysayers jump up and scream “OMG!!! cant eat fruits and veggies!!!!bad bad bad”
Trust me, none of us got this big from eating veggies, so everyone calm down. In either case, I do eat fruits and veggies, I just share them with my kids cause I cant down a whole banana on my own..
Just want to throw in there that Davening is really important, after all Hashem is really the one running the show.
Mske sure the Dr you use has adequate post op help, I left my original surgeon because it would take 6-8 weeks to get an appt. Unacceptable! ask the receptionist when the next fill appt is (even before you have the procedure) if she says its more than 2 weeks away leave and find someone else. Im serious.
Good luck
MomofsixMemberOOmis1105: Im not being “snobby” when I say only those who have one should comment. You have proved my point with the misinformation in your response.
One who doesnt have a band doesnt know enough and will give misinformation. Malabsorbtion does not occur with a band. A band is merely “restrictive” meaning it just restricts the amount you can eat. Malabsorbtion is something that occurs with other types of weight loss surgery, and since I didnt have the other types I will not comment on malabsorbtion.
Of course diabetics need to lose weight but what if they just cant without help?
Lets all agree that the only way to lose weight is to eat less.
The question is how to do that.
Someone who is 20 pounds overweight and otherwise healthy, can and should watch what they eat and work at losing the weight the old fashioned way…
There are those, however, that have to lose 80, 100 or 150 pounds and for us, starving for a week, depriving ourselves of any of the foods we love, to lose 2 pounds, only to gain back 3 pounds at a simcha where we slip up is torture.
I assume the OP is severly overweight or is asking on behalf of a loved one. I am sure that she has tried other methods before considering this and can use support.
I go back to my Motrin analogy.. If someone has a severe headache, why would you dissuade them from taking 2 Motrin? There are many horror stories about people who overdosed on Motrin, there was Motrin that was tainted and had to be pulled from shelves, so now should everyone avoid motrin and call it the “easy way out”?
A band is not Easy, it restricts you from eating too much, even when you REALLY want to. even at a simcha, or on Yom Tov. It requires multiple trips to the Dr. to have it tweaked.
Those who have gained back the weight have done so because they got tired of their band and stopped going to the Dr. just the same way that someone who diets and excersises to lose the weight and then stops dieting and excersising, it will come back.
So lets be clear, we are not discussing a band for someone 20 pounds overweight, we are discussing 100 pounds overweight with probably a few co morbidities thrown in as well…
I really wouldnt even bother reponding to these threads anymore, but I remember when I was looking into it and EVERY person I mentioned it to had negative things to say. I shudder to think where I would be now if I had listened. My mother freaked, and threw all sorts of (wrong) information my way and guess what…6 months later she did it too. and she was successful as well.
If anyone out there actually has a band, and regrets doing it, by all means post and give the OP the info she needs, but if you yourself dont have one I really feel you should keep unsupportive comments to yourself.
Hatzlacha to the OP and anyone out there who decides to take this route.
MomofsixMemberand by the way, I know many people who died from diseases linked to their morbid obesity…
MomofsixMemberI agree that its worth addressing each time it comes up…I will say that only someone with a band is qualified to comment as nobody else knows what is truly going on in someones body.
I think most post op bandsters look wonderful once the weight starts coming off, but look is not the main concern. Health is. Being morbidly obese can be a life threatening illness. Of course portion control is the only way but what some people fail to realize is that many people cannot control their portions without help.
People who have been banded know that vomiting is not a good thing and if someone is vomiting they should be seeing their Dr. for a slight unfil. If someone chooses to abuse their band….then there may be consequences.
Every tool out there can be used for good or abused…Take 2 motrin for a headache and thank gd theres Motrin, take 20 at a time and “say goodbye to your kidneys and liver”
I personally thank Hashem daily for this refuah he created for me and people like me. Of course every individual should speak with their own Dr so decide whats right for them.
I should add that I am one of those that had to have surgery a second time after 6 years and I still say it was the best thing I ever did for myself.
Please dont take ANY advice from anyone who is not banded, its ridiculous.
MomofsixMemberI’m so tired of band bashing. Please do not comment on the lap band if you yourself do not have one.
I have one, it saved my life, I DO NOT carry around a bag for vomiting.
If someone really needs to lose weight, and to keep it off, the lap band may be a very good option, but so many speak negatively of it that it scares off some very good candidates.
I’m not saying there arent drawbacks, I’m not saying there are no concerns, but let every overweight person decide for themselves. really, carrying around 80+ extra pounds has its own set of dangers.
You need to speak to a qualified surgeon and get the facts, do not try to research on the net.
MomofsixMemberI do not throw up all the time. I have, at times, eaten too much too fast , and that’s what happens.
I did not have any issues with any specific food, so long as I ate just a little. Some people say they can’t eat protein or fresh fruits and veggies. This was not my experience.
I was able to tolerate only a little food at a time, really really small amount, and then I was full. Which was perfect for me.
I was told that I would be fine after a week but in reality, I was “better” by a week but not “fine” until 15 days.
For me, this band was a gift from gd and I’m so glad I did it.
MomofsixMemberI have had it done 6 years ago and I lost 90 pounds. which was all the weight I had to lose.
I had a baby about 3 yeas after, and only gained 20 pounds during the pregnancy, I was back to prepregnancy weight by the bris.
It is a big change but I feel it was well worth it.
There will always be naysayers. Those who say “diet and excersise” but for many people it just doesnt work. There are those of us that just cant limit our food intake without help, or who cant/wont excersise.
I will be honest and say it was not smooth sailing and I did suffer from minor complications.
I can also say that being 100 pounds overweight comes with a whole set of complications on its own.
Make sure you have a good support system, a great surgeon and you should be fine.
The frustration I sometimes feel from not being able to eat as much as I want is fleeting. The satisfaction I get from fitting into a size 8 is priceless.
good luck
MomofsixMemberI have the same problem with my 2 year old son.
I would start bathtime at 7 and kept the routine nightly. Still i would sit from abt 7:30 to 9:30 till he fell asleep. I tried excersise, stories, singing, patting. He simply could not drift off.
My pediatrician did not approve of melatonin saying that if given too much synthetically , the body would stop making in naturally.
Just today, I was in a health food store, and the owner gave me the number to “zahler nutrition”
I spoke to their nutritionist who recommended l-triptophane (sp?) and I tried it tonight.
I was out of his room at 8:45.
Coincidence? Maybe. I’ll post again in a few days gd willing.
To those who think it’s a discipline issue, please don’t judge. My son is a good boy, who just can’t shut down like most, he certainly doesn’t need a ” potch”
MomofsixMemberIf someone has that info please post…I didn’t know his fathers name so I went with the tehilim name.
MomofsixMemberJust wanted to add that there were 2 big rainbows seen over the weekend..One in Monticello and One spanned from Brooklyn to Manhattan…not a good sign either….
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