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If public school would have been ideal, we would have stayed in that system.
Obviously the gedolim found it necessary to open Jewish schools…Yes. My mother went to public school.. and No she’s not a baalas teshuva
My son wants me to go places with him..
somehow with my family situation, it did not happen yet.
But… you are giving me chizuk and I will IYH make it happen,
He wants me to go to the movies with him..
I said I didn’t have a problem… Only not a horror movie or thrill movie..
and he has a list..
He has a job, so finding time that works for both of us is difficult..
Thanks for the chizukwow, just checked in again..
looks like I haven’t been here in 2 1/2 years..
I now have 3 kids on their own derech..
officially shomer shabbos..
one is married.. seems to be happy..
and yes we get along..
the other ones have jobs, but definitely have yiddishkeit issues..
BH they are home and we get along,
and ‘agree to disagree’All the best… Just keep hanging in..
will check in again..can’t tell you when..
Did you read the book On Their Derech?What do you mean fostering a kitten..?
Is it not the same as owning one..
Well we have a cat.. used to be a kitten..
My son actually owns him.. so I do not feel mechuyav to feed him before myself.
He comes and goes as he pleases..we have food and water out at all times..
food is costly as well as the vet visits..
cat came home injured several times which necessitated a vet visit
basically it’s another baby to take care of.
I have no regrets..as long as I am responsible
and we have no mice.. we did find some that cat took care of.. but very few.
good luckHi.
My daughter is a graduate of the program..
I was in the Brooklyn location
There was definitely a lot of improvement..
But in my case..it was not 100%
It really depends what the original issue is..
and I knew people that did it and they were super satisfied…
My daughter is still in a self contained class..
the goal is to mainstream her..obviously.
And I am NOT sorry I did the program- I am sure we are ahead.
Hatzlacha rabbaWOW. Hi. I’ve been thinking about you often the past few years (true- I haven’t been to the coffee room in a while), I was wondering what happened with your son.. Now I saw..
There is always hope.. we just need to keep davening (I don’t think I have to tell you).
was nice seeing you in the coffee room.. I don’t check in too often as I am quite busy..
curious yenta- take the course. Ladies/girls are very cuccessful in this field. You can even work by a sheitel macher while you are still in school. HATZLACHA RABBA
A gutt voch to all…
someone just told me recently..
‘dont worry your children will ‘come back’…
Because you cry a lot for them, and a mother tears
are NEVER wasted..’
well, I am still waiting, tryng different strategies, and davening and crying..
I have several to deal with..
It’s on now..hopefully permenantly…ENJOY
I hear nothing!! So as far as I am concerned there is no theft from any L.I. station. Sorry…
I would not say anything..unless it is something like being on medication, which continues into the marriage…
on the other hand if the situation would be reverse,
would you want the significant other to disclose this information to you or would you let bygones be bygones…
oomis- I remember dem shows…
Ad meah v’shloshim!
notasheep- you forgot to add ‘see a doctor’.
There is a sign in my pediatrician’s office- not to call for help until burn is submerged in water for 2 hours!
cuz once you call they will take you hospital you won’t be able to soak the burn any longer-
It was the water! NOT the booze
If he is a true ‘rabbi’ he will definitely understand and not be offended..
I agree with ‘kollel wife’
I redd shiduchim to a lot of ppl.
those that ask how much I charge, I answer I don’t have a specific amount. But whatever it is I would like it in the form of money as apposed to somekind of gift..
It goes over quite well.
You are 100% correct.
You are not second class at all!
But it will take a while for the narrowminded
to become broad minded..
This learning boy ‘mishigaas’ will disappear when
girls will finally realize they should be marrying someone
suitable for themselves and not for the neighbor,street, or community!
OMG
My ‘chilled’ son never listened to me when I gave him a curfew..I called him on the phone- he said he was on the way home, it was probably 3 or 4 am when he got in…
Good Luck!
wilhelms is NOT a clothing store…
WOW- I’m still following as well. You are in my thoughts, I empathize with you, on an american level. Besides for my first son that I discussed early in this thread I am desperately working on a younger one…following the same footsteps. Hope I could save him early enough!
As someone mentioned before.. call Ohel. They will set u up with diff ppl to talk to and they will tell you how to handle these situations.
A gitte voch everyone..
I’ve been following all along. just very busy.
besides for my older son whos been out of yeshiva, working, and having OTD tendencies, as explained a while back..
I got me another son who decided to quit yeshiva, he is very young, as well as being busy with all modern gadgets a frum boy or girl should not be busy with.
Hopefully soon we will have him in a different yeshiva where they will be makarev him.
I am afraid there is no such yeshiva. either one has the cheishek or he don’t..
Does anyone know the real story?
this is a soap opera going on for years..
does anyone know that his judge accepted a bribe?
and anything that Nachum R. is involved is involved would need a LOT of investigation!!
watch that hour…
Any gas yet in bp?
Litvishe- do u live in KY.. kind of an oxymoron..
Kind Kalman- You are describing KY..
are you looking for legal action or for help..
Once there is a file open, the family is scrutinized with a magnifying glass.
If thats what these people are looking for, go for it.
I say contact Ohel as well.
Bikur cholim of boro park has a family crisis office.
they will come and talk to family and see what is going on..
they might refer you to Ohel as well.
and put you in touch with the right people
I’m sorry to stik in my 2cents here but jeans should really be your leasr problem.. t-shirt with photo is another story..
My sons wearing $80 (sale price) jeans a long time. although BH he is wearing white polos.. The rest of my boys do not leav the house without a hat and jacket..
and I have a neighbor who is a ruv in a shul-chassidish-
whos son is walking around in blue jeans and colored polos and t-shirts.. not really a pride to the family.
but I see he lives at home and also has ‘different’ friends and an unacceptable schedule– there are so many of us suffering!
My suggestion to you is to take ONE system and give it your all.
try not to get sidetracked by ‘others’.
tell yourself you will do this system lets say 2 months.. then push maybe another 2 months and see if anything moved.
at least you know you really gave the TP system a good try.
btw- all my boys do thir own laundry from bar mizva age and up!
so there is really nothing wrong in having him do his own laundry.
they change their own linen and leave it to me to wash- perfectly acceptable.. Now when they got/get married they really get a break!
GOOD LUCK and keep us posted.
rude and unnecessary
If visine would actually kill someone
I would not suggest using in eyes either..
just my thought.. I am really not into pranks.
I have more serious things to think about..
ENJOY
My husband had a workmate who always used to say..
‘We are sociable, but untouchable’
Got to bake another cake..
and wash de laundry.. my machines literally go 24 hrs..
Need to plant a fig tree..
in all seriousness I met someone whos hands were full of warts..
a short while later I met again and they were gone. She used fig milk.
Only I dont have a fig tree..
more- lol
how true.
SL1 I most certainly agree with you.
If one wants to ‘build a fence’ for HIMSELF only- GREAT
No one should be building fences for others… Thats how one develops OTD syndrome. as SL1 said
There is definitely a point in this.
aside for the fact if the yeshiva has a strong hashguche..
which most yeshivas cannot do because the boys need some freedom and have to feel trusted.
I was glad when my son was home SLEEPING.
at least I knew he wasnt watchng movies or smoking or both!
The nights were a different story…
He BH now has a job and usually comes home at night..LATE!
when I ask him till when he worked.. the answer was 8:00.
He was just chilling with some friends till 3am.
So that’s the schedule these days..
Thank you for keeping us posted
and for the tips. I will definitely use what I can.
I am in this alone. My husband has HIS approach,
and so far is not ready to hear other ideas..
Thanx
lol
I hate when someone asks “So how are the couples???”
years after they are married..
Even two weeks after they are married makes me very nervous.
Whats it anyones business and if something IS going on, do they think I will tell them..
I have yet to come up with a ‘good’ answer..
curiosity – +1
bakng a cake to send my son in Israel
me three!
Hi.
I dint get in very often.. and I realized there are people with more experience helpng out. so I sit on the sidelines and read.
I wouldnt mind getting a copy of TP emailed to me.
I have a generic email address. whicha also does not have my real name.
May i post?
no, sorry.
I dont mean to discourage you..
but he will ask you where you were till now.
now that he did this drastic step you are here to help and give chizuk.
just so you can prepare for something that might happen.
but as u said you thought he took care of his issues..
I am not blaming you but these people always look and find someone else to blame.
At least he came home…
hopefully if he is happy he is NOT disrespectful..
WOW- I was once told all our T’hillim and T’fillos go into a bank account and accumulate.. then at the end they come back to ‘save’ u..
so I just keep praying.. I know you do too, but you seem to think its not working. IT WORKS! we just dont see where or we will see it later.
It’s the only thing that keeps us sane and strong to go thru all this.
square peg- advice is, anybody can make anything work.. its a mind set. change the attitude. (unless you are talking about abuse or infidelity, which you did not mention)
WOW- I’m sorry to hear what you went thru..
I’m curious to see what hth will say…
my son buys his own cigarettes or gets from ‘friends’
When he has enough money he buys strong liquor as well.
He once finished a pretty large bottle in 1 shabbos..
here to help- I am following your instruction as well..
only thing dad is not on the same page as me.. so I hope it does not backfire..
Thanx- Gutt Shabbos
aries- couldn’t agree with you more.
no matter how many people try to change this situation, it has not happened.
When finally someone opens a yeshiva and allows all to enroll only the troubled ones go and the yeshiva gets a name- oh this yeshiva is for ‘bums’ or other colorful adjectives..
wiy= you are 100% correct!
and the storekeepers say this is what the costumer wants…
and what if the storekeeper says ..’sorry we dont carry those’
the problem is woman are just purchasing their clothing a size or two too small.