Didn’t realise this place is inundated with NK sympathisants

I believe that Joseph / bezalel is a mod who keeps blocking and unblocking himself. I have no clue why and when he uses this controversial screen name, but mods can do what they want.

Gatesheader writes:

I think it’s completely fine to go around and proclaim to the world that there are frum Jews who oppose Zionism. That is not the same as kissing Ahmedinejad in Teheran. They did go a little bit too far with that.

A little bit too far???

They are not considered Jews, they are form the erev rav. If you defend sonei Yisrael, you don’t belong on this forum.

ConcernedMember, I believe the poster wants to discuss the (non)presence of Chassidim in Gateshead.

My concern is about giving Neturei Karta a platform in the coffee room.

Someone who is a sympathisant of Neturei Karta, is either a NK himself or a fanatic Satmer.

The Chassidishe Gatesheader says:

“I feel that NK do a great job in showing the entire world that not all Jews are Zionists. I have *personally* spoken to Arabs who said that in the past they absolutely hated Jews but, since they heard NK somewhere, they would no longer attack Jews in the streets – because they knew not every Chareidi Jew is a Zionist, and that some are actually anti-Zionist.”

NK participated in a Holocaust denial conference in Iran, and embraced Iran’s despot leader. The Chilul Hashem is unlimited. How can any Jew speak positively about NK???

Iyov – Job

Genesis (Bereishis)

Exodus (Shmos)

Leviticus (Vayikra)

Numbers (Bamidbar)

Deuteronomy (Dvarim)

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

Wonderful Definitions

Doctor: A person who kills your ills by pills, and kills you by bills.

School: A place where Papa pays and son plays.

Life Insurance: A contract that keeps you poor all your life so that you can die rich.

Nurse: A person who wakes you up to give you sleeping pills.

Marriage: It’s an agreement in which a man loses his Bachelor degree and a woman gains her Masters.

Tears: The hydraulic force by which masculine willpower is defeated by feminine waterpower.

Lecture: An art of transferring information from the notes of the lecturer to the notes of the students without passing through “the minds of either”.

Conference: The confusion of one man multiplied by the number present.

Compromise: The art of dividing a cake in such a way that everybody believes he got the biggest piece.

Conference Room: A place where everybody talks, nobody listens and everybody disagrees later on.

Father: A banker provided by nature.

Boss: Someone who is early when you are late, and late when you are early.

Politician: One who shakes your hand before elections and your confidence after.

Classics: Books, which people praise, but do not read.

Smile: A curve that can set a lot of things straight.

Office: A place where you can relax after your strenuous home life.

Yawn: The only time some married men ever get to open their mouths.

Etc.: A sign to make others believe that you know more than you actually do.

Committee: Individuals who can do nothing individually and sit to decide that nothing can be done together.

Experience: The name men give to their mistakes.

They both had tragic private lives.

Esther had to leave her husband Mordechai, and live with a Goy. She had a son with Achashveros, but no Yiddish nachas. She could never return to her previous life.

Ruth’s husband Boaz died on their wedding night. She raised their son as a single mother.

The Midrash (Koheles Rabah 10:16) tells us that the reason both of these women were so desperate to have the living child declared theirs was that they were both potential Yevamos (widows subject to Yibbum).

Why was the mother in law desperate to have the living child declared hers? If it’s not hers, it’s her son’s child, either way she’s exempt from Yibum. She was never a potential Yevama.

Behar Tsion Tihye Pleita – Erets Yisrael is the safest place on earth.

real israeli raised a valid point. The mother in law was not a potential Yevama, because the live baby, whether it was her son or her grandson, exempted her from Yibum.

real israeli, I never learned these things in sem, I’m just learning them now. It seems that both brothers have to be alive at the same time, so the pregnant mother in law is insignificant.

Your question about how both mother in law and daughter in law can be potential yevamos, is explained in one of my earlier posts.

coffee addict,you mentioned twice “if the brother was born after the marriage he can’t do yibum”. Where does marriage come in? If the brother was born after DEATH of his childless brother, there’s no yibum.

(To some people marriage feels like death, but I don’t suppose that’s what you meant)

Are you saying that the brother who has to perform Yibum must be born prior to the marriage of his sister in law?

I recently heard of a case where a man died childless. He had no brothers, but his mother was pregnant when he died. When she gave birth to a boy, the wife was obliged to wait for 13 years to get Chalitza from her brother in law who was born AFTER her husband died. Does this make sense?

If the remaining child were to be killed, this too would free the daughter-in-law from her Yevamah status – since the living baby was her only brother-in-law. From the daughter-in-law’s perspective, in fact, killing the child would result in a better solution for her. By just kidnaping the child she might have convinced the earthly court that she was not a Yevamah. However, she herself would know that the child was not really hers and that she really was not permitted to remarry, until Chalitzah was performed. By having the baby killed, though, she would truthfully be released from the bonds of Yibbum.

This is the reason the daughter-in-law suddenly lost interest in keeping the child when she saw that King Solomon was ready to cut the child in half. This would serve her interests even more than if she took the child for herself. Therefore she insisted: “Cut!”

HolyMoe, you’re hilarious.

A quiet man who is introverted, needs a woman who will help him come out of his shell. A woman who talks non-stop, is insecure and egocentric, that’s not what he needs.

He could be suffering from low self-esteem, which can be addressed by a psychologist.

Brilliant!

The Midrash says that the husbands of the two women were father and son, making the two women, mother-in-law and daughter-in-law.

The two women had just lost their husbands, and needed a live child to exempt them from the status of a Yevamah. Both women gave birth to babies. However, these two babies were still less than 30 days old at the time that one of them died. The mother of the dead child would therefore be subject to the laws of Yibbum. This was the lying mother’s motivation for taking the other woman’s child.

If it were the mother-in-law’s child who had died, she would have no incentive to kidnap her daughter-in-law’s child. Even though her son (the deceased husband of her daughter-in-law) had passed away before her own husband had, and therefore he would not exempt her from Yibbum, nevertheless, she would be exempt from Yibbum for another reason. The living child was her son’s child, and a grandchild exempts one from Yibbum.

Only the daughter-in-law had the motive to lie and try to claim that the child was hers. If it was her baby who had died within 30 days of its birth, leaving her childless, she would have been bound to her husband’s brother as a Yevama- and that brother would have been -none other than the living baby (who was in fact her mother-in-law’s child – i.e., her deceased husband’s bother). Since her brother-in-law was a newborn, the daughter-in-law would have had to wait 13 years before this baby would be able to perform Chalitzah on her and free her to remarry.

King Solomon realized all of this and suspected that since the only one with a strong motive to lie was the daughter-in-law, the child must really belong to the mother-in-law.

I see a dot.

I’ve heard of a different minhag. In some places women don’t go to shul at all, they stay home with their little noisy kids. They go out especially to pick up their husbands from shul after davening.

(maybe this comment belongs with the celery in the potato soup lol)

You don’t need advice from English teachers, you need advice from a psychologist.

Jothar wrote:

I hear from the mods that they have pretty solid evidence that one of the trolls here is a mechalel shabbos.

Did he hear this or didn’t he??????