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mochoh timchehMember
“Sam2: I am almost sure that most poskim argue on the Aruch Hashulchan YD 283:6.”
Judaism is not particular to un-orthodox feminist manifetsos
April 12, 2012 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867337mochoh timchehMember??? ??? ????? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?????
i thought it was the rambam who brought this down. my sincerest apologies.
April 12, 2012 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm in reply to: Anti-Isreal Goyim Yemach Shemom and Anti-Isreal Jews #1061687mochoh timchehMemberand the metzudah siddur translates it as simply “sins” without commentary
April 12, 2012 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm in reply to: Anti-Isreal Goyim Yemach Shemom and Anti-Isreal Jews #1061686mochoh timchehMemberWrong. The plural of chait is chataim also. Furthermore, in the gemara, Beruriah translates it as meaning “sins” to make this drasha, this is a homiletical translation though, as b’feirush explained by the artscroll siddur in its commentary to barchi nafshi where this wonderful pasuk appears.
mochoh timchehMemberIf the country would crack down on crime more, then the thugs would be a bit less willing to do violent crime, v’hameivin yavin the resulting therefores. Meaning, specifically, someone who is found guilty of killing with intent, first degree, whose conviction is upheld by a court of appeals shoul be put to death. When you crack down hard, it sends a message and produces results – people won’t kill if they know that if they’re caught and provan guilty they will be put to death. This is a shita of a gadol of the previous generation – i heard it from one of his closest talmidim.
mochoh timchehMember“It was quite a controversy amongst the mispalelim.”
Is there a rabbi? and even if not, who established the 15-min?
mochoh timchehMember“There is nothing wrong with texting”
So why then do so many gedolim decry it? and what about those who get addicted and text even on shabbos, which is not a lo shchiach? And there is no such thing in physical existence that does not have a single downside whatsoever, R’ Simcha Zissel says this b’feirush, and it is also brought down by mekubalim by the eitz hadaas. Furthermore, what exactly are your inspiring credentials that entitle you to a cogent, relevant and meaningful opinion?! If anything, to issue such a blanket statement indicates tremendous ignorance of the inyan.
mochoh timchehMember:mochoh timche – are you talking about my hachnosas orchim comment? because if you are, that is a rude comment. it was not anti halachik. i hope you weren’t talking about this (although i doubt it).:
I was saying only in a general sense.
mochoh timchehMember“1)Am I not entitled to my own opinion?”
No one is not entitled to an opinion, for the same reason that random people do not have a relevant opinion on nuclear physics or quantum mechanics. Torah is no different. There is no room in Torah or Halachah for people to have their own “opinions”. The question posed by the OP is “what does Bitachon mean to you” – that is perfectly valid, as one can associate whatever meaning in something as he pleases, as that is toluy on the individual; to have an opinion what something is, on the other hand, is invalid and one who does not have the requisite daas Torah has no right so an opinion whatsoever. What the OP brought down is simply real tzedadim of a machlokes as spelled out by valid Torah authorities of previous generations.
“2)Read the title – does it not say “what does bitachon mean to YOU”?”
See previous paragraph – you didn’t confine your opinion to answering that question alone.
“3)Are you popa bar abba with a different name?”
No
April 12, 2012 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm in reply to: Anti-Isreal Goyim Yemach Shemom and Anti-Isreal Jews #1061684mochoh timchehMember“MT: Saying that Chataim V’lo Chot’im means “sins and not sinners” is a mistranslation.”
Well, let’s see: Chatoim – pl chait, which means sin, so chatoim means sins; V’lo – i don’t think there’s any debate as to what that means (and not); Chot’im – pl chotei, which means sinner, so then chot’im means sinners. Now if we put this together, we get “sins and not sinners”. The drasha, by the way, is <i>precisely</i> that – that we should daven for the sinners to do teshuva and thus their sins will be wiped out and not that they should be exterminated like amalekites; see the gemara that tells us the heartwarming story of Mrs. R’ Meir, who dissuaded her husband from davening for his protagonists death and instead pray for his repentance.
April 12, 2012 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867334mochoh timchehMember“Mochoh: you fail to realize,you first post is incorrect the Rambam does not say that and the Shulchun Aruch as well.”
Um, the shulchan aruch does say that. the def of tiflus acc to Rashi is dvar aveirah, althogh the Rambam seems to disagree.
mochoh timchehMemberSays who? Who decided that is the cutoff line?
Look it up in the MA & SAH
“MT: That’s explicitly wrong. The Poskim say that you put a Gemara on top of a Nach.”
Which poskim are you quoting exactly? nach should not be under a gemara, however there are those who are <i>mekel</i> in certain situations. (Halachically Speaking brings down a whole bunch of maare mekomos)
“I too frequently turn g’mara pages very quickly when chazaring and using an Artscroll which only focuses on several lines of g’mara per page. Havei dan l’caf z’chus…”
1- it wasn’t an artscroll; 2- i was watching himas he progressed down the page, which i knew from his finger moving across every line downward top to bottom and the amount of words being said in between each page turn from blatt to blatt.
“Of all that was said in this thread, I think the above wins the prize for most ignorant statement. Not to mention that it’s nusach sefard.”
That is in no way literal. i thoght it was self-understood that one cannot bring a rayah on his own from the wording of a tefillah much less something like this which isn’t even anywhere near sound and airtight. The point was to make a point of that we ask for understanding and knowledge in Torah explicitly and not to be inspired by the mystical essence of the words as far as i know. If someone knows of an explicit tefillah for such i would be glad to know.
mochoh timchehMemberwho coined the term “troll”?
mochoh timchehMember“Why Zohar and Mishna yes inherent kedusha, but Gemorah no inherent kedusha?”
The Torah is the Holiest entity; Scriptures succeeding it – Nach – are somewhat less holy; Mishna and Zohar are the cutoff line for enough kedusha to make it possible to imbibe from it just by reading the words. Further, acc to you how far does this go? Is reading a pnei yehoshua also considered absorbing kedusha from his words?
April 12, 2012 2:36 am at 2:36 am in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867323mochoh timchehMemberi meant 246
April 12, 2012 2:10 am at 2:10 am in reply to: Anti-Isreal Goyim Yemach Shemom and Anti-Isreal Jews #1061680mochoh timchehMemberAmen.
mochoh timchehMember“Mochoh – Are you seriously taainaing that there is no inherent kedusha in the words of the gemorah?!?! Why would you not need to make the Brochos in the morning before “laining” the gemora if you need a Brocho before laining the mishna?”
Here’s what i did say: “There is no inherent kedusha in words of gemara that saying them in and of itself is some form of mitzvah or zechus“. Not that there is no kedusha at all, which is patently absurd. If you want to imbibe kedusha by reading words, read pesukim or Zohar.
April 12, 2012 2:01 am at 2:01 am in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867318mochoh timchehMember“mochoh: The Rambam does not say that.”
I never said that he did. Look up in the SA Yoreh Deah 146:20ish
April 12, 2012 1:56 am at 1:56 am in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867317mochoh timchehMemberI never questioned whether it was right or necessary or disputed the enormous benefit that is gained by the bais yaakov system education girls!! THe question, even if eloquently phrased in the style of a real halachic shaylah, was simply WHAT was the heter, not that there isn’t one or there shouldn’t be. Don’t attribute meaning in between lines that aren’t there.
mochoh timchehMember“beware of idiots.”
Very interesting that the number one thing you take out of the CR is the presence of myriad idiots at every turn corner and post just waiting to ensnare you in their webs of trickery to convert you to the worst apikorsus ever. . . . . . . . . .
mochoh timchehMember“In my opinion, Bitachon is definition number two.”
Where did you receive your Rabbinic Ordination from exactly that entitles you to your very own opinion on what is obviously not a simple matter, as seen by the many many seforim written to explain this very question.
mochoh timchehMember“i can learn around that speed when chazaring a mesechta i know well.”
Not true. The best you can do is think through the superficial steps and conclusions. Understanding with any meaningful depth for us who aren’t top 5 Torah geniuses of the generation requires that one spend time to actually think through each step and focus on it even to remember it in a way that actually counts for learning bec simply having a memory of something in the back of yoour mind does not count even for chazarah. You are fakingg yourself out if you think otherwise.
“instead of focusing on him not learning maybe learn a bit yourself.”
I spent maybe a minute or two watching him plow through a few page turns when i paused to take a little break.
“and maybe he was just trying to locate a specific gemara”
And maybe he was really an isreali spy posing
mochoh timchehMember“Thank you for all the very helpful tips!!! Btw giggle girl thanks for clearing things up for me, I was getting a little worried there!
And thank you everyone for the very warm welcomes!! I’ll be sure to enjoy myself here!!!”
Realize that some take great pleasure in espousing blatantly anti-halchic views in sharp contrast to the rich heritage of rishonim, acharonim and gedolim of today, and this forum is a shining beacon of light to those of this ilk.
mochoh timchehMember“And surely those who raise their voices and sing along with the chazzan which is like arrogance and they should be rebuked because it is like kalus rosh.”
Claiming that such a practice is not in any way halachically problematic, let alone praiseworthy, would seem to also fit into this category of arrogance.
April 11, 2012 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867310mochoh timchehMember“Soro Schenirer got endorsement & blessings from the Godol HaDor, RSRH to launch Beis Yaakov movement, so this is no Heter”
Um, when they wrote down the mishna, they had to go against a blatant issur, but “eis laasos” as a heter. There is no such thing in halacha as an “ideal”. The greatest “ideal” in the world is not sufficient to break even the smallest Rabbinic prohibition. Sometimes there is sufficient need for an extreme course of actions that defies halachic boundaries. Conservative and Reform hold that “ideals” superceed and can nullify Torah laws.
mochoh timchehMemberunfortunately what the mishna berurah says is no longer paramount in the eyes of the masses (not that it ever really was but still).
mochoh timchehMember“beware of idiots”
does that apply to oneself?
mochoh timchehMemberMy rosh Hayeshiva told me about it he never told me who it is or where to find it.
April 11, 2012 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867308mochoh timchehMemberAs an interesting side, the Rambam states, Sefer Hamada Hilchos Teshuva Perek Yud halacha Aleph that women, since they lack the requisite Daas, are unable to serve HASHEM me’ahava and thus serve only from fear, “ad shetarbeh daatan umichanchin osun laavod meahava”. The Mesilas Yesharim at the beginning of Yiras Hacheit explains what is the yir’ah that is a staple of femininity.
mochoh timchehMember“Reading the Gemora is part of the mitzva of Limid Torah. Even if he reads it without understanding it. Hewould srill need to say the Brochos in the morning before he could lain the gemorah.”
This is true for pesukim of Tanach and for mishna. There is no inherent kedusha in words of gemara that saying them in and of itself is aome form of mitzvah or zechus. The point of gemara is to be known and understood – “v’sein bilibeinu binah lehavin ulihaskil. . .” notice no mention of “likrosah”. Tosfos explains that there are two facets to the mitzvah of talmud Torah: 1- knowledge of it, ie information; 2- the toil, of which there is no significant amount in mindless davening of it. Furthermore, the Chafetz Chaim states in Toras Habayis htat if one can learn better qualitatively and does not, he is over on bitul Torah.
April 11, 2012 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm in reply to: Heter for Women Learning Torah in Beis Yaakov #867307mochoh timchehMemberFurther: “Ain Daatan mechuvenes lehavin v’chuli”
mochoh timchehMemberThere is an extreme deah that kol isha is even stam talking.
mochoh timchehMembernope. it would take a super-genius to even be remotely shayach to understand the steps of a gemara at that speed, and he was no genius. And those who truly know a mesechta that well are very deliberate in their learning and don’t substitute it for a sidur. Someone who learns 10 blatt a day with the possible exception of R’ Chaim Kanievsky Shlita don’t have any understanding of what they “learned”.
mochoh timchehMemberis czar a marriage counselor
April 11, 2012 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm in reply to: Shemone Esrei: Putting Feet Together and Davening Quietly #871948mochoh timchehMemberquietly comes from chanah who davened her tefilah to HKB”H quietly which Eili, the reining Kohen Gadol at the time interpreted as a sign of gross intoxication.
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