truth2power

This discussion has yet again descended into a classic, boring gun control debate, and proves exactly the point I was trying to make.

Do you really think USA is that different from the rest of the Western world that all these reasons for the requirements to have guns don’t apply anywhere else?
If so, you have to give a coherent reason (as @ubiquitin did right at the top of the discussion).
If not, have a look at how the rest of the world prevents mass shootings (invariably, strict gun control), and do it!

To clarify, I wrote this before the rockets started coming over from Gaza. There is no justification for this and Israel should strike back with full force (doing its best to protect innocent civilians). I was referring to Har Habayis, Shimon Hatzadik and the general unpleasantness within Israel, not on its borders.

@interjection So those teens should have been arrested and faced the law. We are privileged to have a fully functioning Jewish state that doesn’t need to rely on responses from right-wing nuts ‘getting their own back’ to achieve justice.
We (rightly) get very upset when videos come out of Arabs shouting ‘Death to Israel’ and burning Israeli flags, yet in the past two weeks we have seen multiple videos of Jews shouting ‘Death to Arabs’, ‘Yemach Shemam’ and similar provocations.
It leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. We are losing the moral high ground.

@Kilaolomchasdo
That would be a nice explanation if it were only Frum Jews in NY not following the guidelines.
But it isn’t. It’s in the UK and Israel as well, where there have not been major instances of seeming discrimination against the Frum community on the whole, and yet there seems to be a similar amount of disrespect for authority and disregard for rules.
Even if the theories about COVID being overblown are correct (unlikely…people’s memories seem to be exceptionally short, it was only 4 months ago we were losing dozens of relatively young members of our own community – since when does Flu do this at Purim time on a normal year?), why is it that the Frum communities in multiple countries feel the need to take it upon themselves to prove that it isn’t a big deal?
What happened to keeping our heads down and trying to blend in as best we can?