Mistykins

@Coffee addict said “ I’m surprised that out of 50 states the only states to have “cases in schools” is NY and NJ

Don’t tell me other states are closing schools because they’re not…”

Actually, schools have been closing in the Midwest (plenty in Montana, Wisconsin, and both Dakotas) and the south. I know plenty of people who live ‘Out of Town’ but not in those places.

Otherwise, I can agree. Just recently 2 towns surrounding Lakewood closed their parks to lessen the spread of COVID. It was “pure coincidence“ that it started right at the beginning of חול המועד‎ and they are reopening now. And in the meantime, the websites are publishing photos of people sneaking into a side entrance while the police blocked the main entrance (and directed traffic). The hatred posted on these sites in unreal. Yes, this is Golus, but comments relating back to Germany?!

And there is a lot of compliance going on in Lakewood. Schools, shuls, stores, plenty of masks. At least as many as in goyish areas in nearby towns, maybe even more. But it only takes a few people, a few photos, and they are looking to shut everything down.

Xtians (including Catholics) believe abortion is a sin based on the 10 commandments. Almost all are pro-life, based on their belief that Hashem made the decision to put them in that situation.

The rest of the goyim don’t believe in G-d, or just don’t care enough about religion, so they’re aborting children produced out of marriage or born into situations where they don’t have faith to help them through. As a result, they don’t care, anything goes because it’s legal. But I would not want to be judged on their beliefs.

KGN, I would suggest Baltimore or further out of town over Lakewood, especially for younger families. Of course, I’m saying that as someone with children I’m high school, and as the years go by and admissions get tougher, I am more afraid for friends with younger children.

On one hand, we should be proud of the yungerleit for choosing to learn, and for a short term it is no different than those going to college.

That being said… Yidden have survived passing on the Torah for thousands of years without lifelong kollels. Men learned after work and when their children went to bed. And while sitting and learning was once a luxury for only the richest, now every girl is convinced that she needs a learning boy, and that the poverty is a worthy sacrifice. And while learning is admirable, I really wonder how many boys feel called to learn, while others are there because it’s the “right thing to do” or because of pressure from family and the community. And the boys that are there should be grateful that people care enough to sponsor their learning, instead of feeling entitled.

But there is a thin line between choosing to live in poverty and forcing that lifestyle on your children. I grew up in Teaneck, so English was my primary language. I learned a variety of subjects at school.

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So if you’re going to accept help, and I have no issue with that, people should be taught that they must help later as well. A kollel is not a college with tuition up front. The boys are getting a solid education for free, and should be willing to pay it back by personally donating instead of expecting the government.

Above all, strive to be better than the previous generations.

I believe they should know where the money goes. Not specifics, but definitely what the total intake was, what percentage was given out to the community, and maybe even the highest employees salaries if they exceed a certain percentage of the intake.

Disclosure keeps everything honest, and while I know the vast majority of frum charities have nothing to worry about compared to other non-profits, it is still important to be seen as honest. If a company is managing their money poorly, I would rather give to a charity where I know the community is benefiting.

“I think, therefore I am”

Sorry, but you only have to turn on your news channel or look out the window to find plenty of people who do not think, yet still exist.

Do we have to stop at mosquitoes or can we take out wasps/ hornets as well? We need bumblebees and honeybees, but the other types are just mean.

Milhouse- <i> There is only one medical examiner. If you mean Ben Crump’s hired quack, then yes, anyone working for Crump is NOT independent, and must be presumed to be lying whenever their lips are moving. </I>

Because someone working for the police has never lied? They need to paint him in a bad light to justify killing him. He was an addict, it was bound to happen because of his bad heart.

The 2nd autopsy was done by a team- Crump’s examiner (Baden- used in other cases of brutality like Garner, and Wilson- forensic pathologist for Uni of Minn). In both cases, whether seen as heart or asphyxiation, it was ruled a homicide. Unless we get a 3rd (4th, and 5th) autopsy to confirm the first 2, we don’t know which is true except that it was homicide, and that Chauvin used a tactic that was neither recommended by MPD, and purposely used long enough to kill him. His knee was still compressing Floyd after EMS arrived.

I am truly broken-hearted about this. While we don’t have evidence ‘this’ attack was racial, the officer has a history of more force with blacks, as well as several complaints (and we know for every complaint made, many more go unsaid).

And you should be furious. As I posted elsewhere, racism and anti-semitism are more closely related than you think. Both communities are looked down upon by your average goyim. Both seem to get into a lot more legal trouble (frum for minyanim/ building yeshivas/ Medicare or welfare) more than average white america. The only difference is that you won’t see a cop kneeling on a Jewish man’s neck. You won’t hear that police broke into a frum family’s house and shot an innocent woman (Breonna Taylor) because they had a no-knock warrant (their body cams were off, and there’s a lot of evidence that didn’t match the story they told).

They are right to protest. The only issue is the rioters. And there may be more blacks looting, but there are many whites smashing windows, setting off fireworks in a crowd, and throwing things at officers. They may be the same people from the “Other 98%” (Occupy Wall St) looking to damage corporate America. They could be frustrated at being locked up for so long and just want to destroy.

The brutality has gone on for too long. The police have protected each other instead of allowing the few bad cops to be arrested and fired before someone dies. Whether or not this is racial, changes have to be made. I hope it happens peacefully, but history has always shown that unless someone is greatly affected, change doesn’t happen.

I assume you mean Huju’s comment about people living within their means? I didn’t take that to mean assassinate half their family. Perhaps not have them in the first place, or find cheaper ways to educate them. Look at Lakewood. Each person is paying 5+ tuitions to keep their kids in private school. If everyone put their kids in public schools, they’d have at least a 6:1 ratio- 20 frum students and 3-4 goyim. But they’re worried about outside influences!! If anything, the peer pressure to do as well as the other frum kids would override the other kids’ ideas. Let them learn basic math/ English for elementary school, and when we reach the point where the bad influences really start (middle school, age 10-11), then move them to a private school. That $20k/ year can go towards the wedding expenses that this thread is about, or towards basic needs.

That being said, I do love your sarcastic answers. Every time I i see you made a recent post, i have to read it.

In the beginning, it was spread that only the goyim were taken.

Then it was only the sinners.

Then it was only those that disobeyed precautions.

Then it was the Pure (ignoring all those previous goyim sinners that defied the rules).

Maybe we can learn to accept that Corona doesn’t discriminate

@joseph If the yeshivas and kollels would assassinate theit population, then yeshiva and killed populations would be cut in half.

CYL- in all seriousness, I do believe that even though the small wedding is COVID related, Hashem has still provided an answer for you. Not that COVID was made just so you had an escape, but that your granddaughter chose to get married at this time and under these new circumstances, after yoSheu had faith that things would work as Hashem saw fit.

Joseph and Charlie, dwelling on a past that our ancestors were probably not around for will only continue to breed hate. Why keep it up?

I’m tired of seeing people blame others for the mistakes of their ancestors. Two of my grandparents were immigrants. Grandma was born in Germany. Should I become a “self-hair f Jew” because of what people believe? Maybe it’s different because I grew up with stories of how her Xtian neighbors his Frum families to keep them safe, and so we can’t hate an entire ethnicity because of the actions of some.

But try saying that in a Yeshiva, and see how quickly you will end up in the office. Most people are more interested in perpetuating the hate than in moving past the sins of the (grand)father. Time to let go.

I live near Lakewood (Gov Murphy). If the planet rotated a bit differently, then yes, my world would revolve around 5 Boros.

But when it comes to being a True American, most of us should be ashamed. Someone showed me a video the other day, an American boy and an immigrant. The immigrant could answer questions about our country that the American couldn’t, and I’m sure many people here can’t either.

CTL, forgive me for banning you from answering. How many people here can tell me how many people serve in the House of Representatives? Who takes over leader ship if chas v’shalom Trump and Pence are unable? When was the constitution signed?

These are all questions on the USA citizenship test, but do we know the answer? Do people realize how important it is to stay involved in politics beyond our president?

As Yuda asked, when will the Jews realize they are Jews, not Americans? Hopefully people can realize they’re both before it’s too late.

Why is the virus known as COVID-19? Because there were 18 other Coronaviruses out there. Just check an older Lysol canister and you’ll see it listed.

This wasn’t “invented “ by the Chinese. To say it was takes away the power of HaShem, who created all things, and is aware of everything that happens as a result. We can be upset that China didn’t handle the situation as they should’ve. But everything that happens is beyond our control and theirs.

Just a few minutes ago I ended a call with “it was lovely to talk to you, but I really need to get going. Hope we can talk again soon”. You’d be amazed how many people remember one more thing to tell you quick, and you end up on the phone for 20 minutes more. When talking to those friends, I start the call with “I can only talk for 15 minutes, and then I need to (excuse”, so that when the time is up I don’t feel bad about getting off the phone.

I hope this is a troll post. There are girls out there davening nightly to find a good chosson, and then this poster saying “they’re 24 and tall. They can’t afford to be picky anymore”.

I’d rather my daughter marry at 30 than end up with a man who insists she should settle for him instead of with the respectful husband she deserves.

Because the traffic is ridiculous and if you drive normally, you’ll reach your destination by tomorrow.

And yet, they’re still building townhouses that put 4+ Cars each on the street.

I love how the greatest concern is mesirah. It’s okay to call a tow truck if we don’t involve the police. No worries that a frum yid is paying 5 tuitions and has no money to spend on towing fees.

I’m not saying you’re wrong for calling. Trust me, I would do the same, especially to repeat offenders. I’m just saying that if your only consideration is whether you’re harming a goy or fellow yidden, you’re hurting the community.

@Pepper- you must’ve been quite a character there. At the very least, you made it memorable.

@mod, I understand removing info from the original post, but why ask ‘which thread’ as an edit? It makes just as much sense to comment and bump it up. Forgive my curiosity.

I own a townhouse with a double-wide driveway. The 2 spots in front of my garage are mine. You’d be surprised how many people don’t get it. When the neighbors friends are waiting for him to come out, I don’t bother unless I happen to be leaving anyway. But I have also told a delivery truck that they either need to move their vehicle in the next 5 minutes, or pay the $60 fee for me missing my appointment. My other neighbor has had it worse, she has woken up half the neighborhood banging on the door of her shared driveway because they blocked her in overnight. Several times.

Are these different people every time, or one guy dropping off his wife weekly? I would walk out and ask if he’s lost or needing assistance, if he asks at that point you can reply that he can stay for now but in the future this is a private driveway.

Dr. Todd said “hotels run by frum but disorganized mashgichim, including some heimeshe hotels, cannot be trusted.”

Very true. I worked for a popular north jersey bakery many years ago, goyish owned with a mashgiach, and while they were quite careful about keeping kosher, the mashgiach was not kosher at all (ate cheeseburgers) and found it amusing. I was young and afraid to say anything though it bothers me now.

The increase will destroy many small businesses because they won’t make up for the lost expenses.

A lot of middle class people will not get a raise, and will suffer from higher prices. The pizza shop laid off an employee to afford the new higher wages and now they charge the average family more, so the family eats out less often. The ones that do make more are going to put it towards higher tuitions because teachers also need a raise, and still not spend it in shops. The poor people aren’t saying “hey, how about we shop in those little mom and pop stores now that they have some cash,”, so the owners don’t benefit anyway.

I have said the same as Redleg. Find a way to rent a larger building, and put one school in each wing or each floor. They could split rent and utilities.

When parents don’t pay, they shouldn’t embarrass the kids. Let all children to take the test, and hand out all envelopes at the end, with either an admission card or a bill. Split children into various rooms, some that have testing and some don’t, so that kids aren’t noticing everyone who isn’t there).

I don’t blame the schools. They run a tight budget, and need every penny that the parents agreed to. When they don’t receive it, hard working teachers can’t get paid (risk losing their home/ car/ children’s tuition), and eventually the school may fold. 2 schools in Lakewood recently closed for funding issues. This didn’t just hurt the families who couldn’t pay. Now the families that paid full tuition are scrambling to get their daughters into a new school, teachers are looking for new jobs, etc.

If you couldn’t pay rent or a car payment, they would take away your home/ car. If you were to eat groceries or put on store clothes and not pay when you leave, it’s stealing. And it’s hard, because if you sit down and add up the cost of rent with utilities, food, car/ bus, expenses (clothes/ medical), and 4 tuitions, you’ll realize that it’s unaffordable, but your child can’t be uneducated because of that. And too much has to change for people to fix the system.

Health: if you read my text instead of jumping to a Stone Age accusation, I stated that I had refused to give my daughter medication for years, but she did amazing on it. I also stated that “most” (not all) of my family is unmedicated. My son has ADD, but not severe enough to need stimulants.

I know a boy with severe ADHD whose parents refuse to medicate, and it has ruined the boy’s education and social relationships (because he is such a distraction). He needs medication. However, many parents insist on drugging their child instead of working with them.

So please, don’t make assumptions about my beliefs.