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There is a store “Laura” that has a large petite section. I think they also have a fair amount of tzniusdik clothes
netazar: You are correct on both counts. Laura has lovely clothing and many of their styles are very suitable for all Jewish women. I try to shop there at the end of the season and take in their sales. I do some of my shopping when I am visiting my children in Toronto as the selection for shopping of all kinds is much larger there.
When I had sheer drapes, I waited for a nice windy day to wash them and had somebody to help me. I put them in bathtub with tepid water and mild soap and swished them around. Then I rinsed them very well. I put them in plastic bag and carried them outside. Each person took two corners of the drape and we kind of shook them and let the wind billow through them. When they stopped dripping and were just damp – back inside and rehung. I used to do one curtain at a time. I also didn’t have a gentle/lingerie setting on my washer at the time.
Rabbi Gold started a fire. What a shandah!
Tuna: “things like writing letters come more natural by a woman”
I don’t think that Leon Uris or William Shakespeare would have appreciated that statement.
havesomeseichel: I live in Canada so we don’t have the same stores as you do (except for WalMart). As there are few petite size only shops, I generally have to pick what I can from few racks of petites available at some stores. I find it impossible to wear children’s clothing – except perhaps for a sweatshirt or something similar. Young children may weigh the same but their body shapes are totally different. Children’s size dresses and blouses do leave for breasts. The skirts and slacks do not leave room for the belly that most woman, regardless of their weight, have left over from having children.
Oomis: even though I weigh 98 pounds I am not a size 0 – usually a size 4 – and I am definitely not anorexic. In fact, until about 6 years ago I hovered in the 140-150 pound range. At one point I was 195 D/T to being on steroid medication, so I fully understand the problems associated with being a larger size. In fact, when I was at my highest weight I really could not find much to wear at all – being so short. At that time, in Canada, there was no such think as plus size petites. I managed to find one skirt that fit me and two sweatsuits that I lived my daily life in – this went on for well over a year. Luckily they reduced the medication because my sweatsuits actually wore out. I couldn’t even donate them. When I lost weight a few years ago, it was not from dieting but apparently as a side effect of a medical condition. It is the very first time in my life that I have ever been the right weight for my height (according to the charts I am at the very low end of the appropriate weight). My entire life from when I was a small child consisted on one diet after another. I empathize with everyone who faces the challenge of obesity and agree that losing the weight is far easier (and it isn’t easy by any means) than keeping it off. I do thank Hashem daily that in my later years I don’t have to watch my weight and can eat whatever I wish. I try to include as many high calorie foods in my diet as I can because if I slack off for a day or two, I will start losing weight. I dropped 4 pounds in September when I had my hip replacement surgery and I have been fortunate to regain 2 pounds. I still find it strange that whenever I meet someone that I haven’t seen in a number of years, they don’t recognize me because of the weight loss and usually I don’t recognize them for the opposite reason. It seems that for the most part, women have a tendency to gain weight as they age.
BTW, the best name for a plus size clothing store that I have ever seen is “The Forgotten Woman”. It was (or perhaps still is) in Palm Springs,CA.
I can’t answer your question but would like to point out that in public schools and in many private and co-ed Hebrew Day schools this is common – at the junior and senior high school level. It is called the Student Council. There are representatives from each grade plus an overall president, vice president, secretary and treasurer and they are all elected by the students through full fledged election campaigns. It is a wonderful way for students to begin learning about public service and politics. In fact, two of the fellows who were student council presidents when I was in high school went on to major political careers – one of them became the Mayor of Vancouver, B.C. and the other became the Premier of the province – which is like the governor.
MosheRose: When you are in shidduchim, please make very sure that anyone that you may seriously consider marrying knows exactly the views that you espouse. Particularly about what you will and will not allow and that if she isn’t happy that it is of no importance to you. Something tells me that you will be looking for a suitable wife for many years and that until you become a bit more moderate, you will not be completely happy yourself. You also must learn that marriage is a complete partnership and is forever changing because people are forever changing – none of us is the same person that we were 10 years ago.
Mother in Israel: Didn’t you see the mechitzah inside the CR?Confidentially, I have heard that d/t a world-wide shortage of moderators, YU is adding a PhD program in “moderation”. Entry requirements are extremely rigorous and the required thesis will make Pulitzer Prize winners tremble in their boots.
PS: I shall not apply for this program – even if asked.
I haven’t been here very much
And feel I’ve been out of touch
My back’s been sore
I’ll say no more
To bore you with my woes and such.
I can’t believe we’ve had so much snow
At least its not forty below
It will be quite soon
Just about one more moon
And on my vacation I’ll go.
An aliyah I think I will make
But mine will kind of be fake
Instead of Yisroel
Which really would be swell
Miami’s the route I will take
I believe that having the child contribute babysitting earnings and allowance towards her activity will serve more than one purpose. It will teach her responsibility and the importance of planning ahead, it will teach her about budgeting and it will increase her enjoyment of the event because she earned most of the money herself. When youngsters are given absolutely everything that they want without having any responsibility to contribute towards it, they don’t usually appreciate it as much – at least in my experience. It is easy to give a child a twenty dollar bill so that they can go for pizza with their friends. By next week, the entire outing will be a distanct memory because it came to them so easily. When I was a young teenager I really wanted to go to a regional BBYO convention. My parents, who were very lenient, told me that I could not go because I had really been slacking off at school and that over the winter break I would be hitting the books. I was determined to go and told them that I would find a way to do so. I entered the storytelling contest in my BBG chapter and won and then won the citywide contest which meant that my trip was paid for and I “had” to go to the convention. Of course, by this time my parents were so proud, they sent me off with their blessing. I was very fortunate to win the contest on the regional level, as well, which meant that several months later I went to the district convention – in California. I remember all of this experience very vividly even though it was 50 years ago. I attended many conventions, but these 2 really stand out in my mind because it was a lot of hard work to hone my oratory skills, find a suitable story with a Jewish theme, commit it to memory, etc, etc. The hard work involved instilled more of a sense of responsibility in me and really increased my enjoyment of the event. It is far clearer in my mind today than the other events I attended that my parents merely wrote a check for.
Goodbye – the point is that Thanksgiving is not a church holiday. It is a secular holiday to give thanks for the freedoms and bounties that you as an American have.
In Canada, we celebrate Thanksgiving much earlier – the second Monday in October. As that was several weeks ago, I will volunteer to consume a vast quantity of pumpkin pie with a lot of whipping cream – the real stuff, in order to show respect for the holiday of my American neighbors. (I also just used the American spelling of the word which should be spelled “neighbour” in Canada and any other “British” affiliated country). To those of you that will be indulging in a Thanksgiving meal – b’tayavon.
Here is today’s contribution.
Yankel thought he should be asked
To Kate and Willie”s wedding
When no invite from the Queen arrived
He said she’s old and she’s forgetting.
Yankel and his wife went out
To do a little fressin’
When he saw the menu’s price
He said – just drinks, no essen.
Yankel took a holiday
He went to see Las Vegas
When he returned he wept and said
It should be called Lost Wages.
Yankel thought he’d help his wife
He tried to set the table
Knives on left, forks to the right
He really wasn’t able.
Yankel met with the Chazzan
For help with his Haftorah
When he was done the Chazzan said
You’re great – kein ein a hora.
Yankel opened up his door
There stood old Auntie Fruma
The look upon his face said all
He wished t’were cousin Bluma.
Yankel told his buddy Abe
I’m going to leig tefillin
Wrapped too tight, his arm turned blue
Removed before Tehillim.
Where I live there are plenty of plus size stores and all of the department stores have big plus size sections. What is sadly lacking are stores for people like me – I am barely five feet tall and on a good day weigh 98 pounds. There is only one petite size store in town and it is very expensive. The department stores have a very limited selection of petites. I am forever running to have alterations done – and that can become costly. I guess that we all would like to have speciality shops to address our own concerns but if there were a lot of money to be made by fragmenting sales, then we wouldn’t still be searching and wishing.
Blinky, thanks. It is terrific – made me laugh out loud, which is a rare thing for me to do while sitting alone at my computer. I don’t know what made me think of the darn thing in the first place. On Saturday I kept thinking of new verses and because I couldn’t write them down until after dark, I had to keep singing them so I wouldn’t forget the words. More verses may be coming.
Aren’t you supposed to give cuff links or a fountain pen?? Oops, my mistake – I am thinking of the wrong decade. I doubt that a teenaged boy today would even know what cuff links or a fountain are.
“Reb Elya Desler ZT”L has a great explanation about the mind of a smoker when he takes a cigarette; it is basically that he forgets the danger at the time of the urge. “
And I think that I have to agree with the Reb on this one. Wiser words have rarely been spoken.
I forgot to mention – please check the “Composed Songs” thread. The other day this ridiculous parody of Yankee Doodle popped into my head and I have made a lot of crazy verses for it. I keep adding them and I invite you to do the same – we can aim for composing the longest song, ever. It is very easy – simpler than limericks for sure.
More Yankel Dovid
Yankel’s fetter Pinchus came
To spend a Yontiff freilach
They drank so much that when they danced
It was with Elimelech. (chorus)
Yankel’s wife she said to him
You are a bissel tippish
You got confused and you have done
Birchot before the Kiddush. (chorus)
Yankel lay upon his bed
To chup little dremmel
Woke with a start when by his side
A vision of Avremel. (chorus)
Yankel told his little boy
Go find the affikomen
Tatty that will be next month
Tonight it’s about Haman. (chorus)
Blinky – I live on the prairies and we usually have snow by the end of October. We got off very easy this year as we had a long and mild autumn and didn’t get our first snowfall until this past Friday. But, it has been snowing off and on since and we have had several inches. The snow plows are busy, busy, busy.
Fried onions with pastrami or corn beef??? I’ve never heard of that but it sounds delicious. I shall definitely request that the next time that I have a deli sandwich. Almost nothing cannot taste better with the addition of some tsibulah. Well…maybe ice cream.
WIY, you said ” Its an addiction but not in the same league as hard drugs”.
You have no idea about the science of addiction. Nicotine addiction is exactly the same as addiction to cocaine or alcohol. The brain’s receptors attach to the nicotine. The only reason that nicotine addiction is not categorized like drug addiction is because tobacco products are still legal and relatively affordable. You only smoked for 8 years – success at quitting is increased when you smoked for a relatively short period of time. Before you start spouting facts, you should make sure that they are factual. What you have posted about nicotine addiction is untrue.
Health: I completely forgot about the Zyban/patch combo. I tried that as well. As for the anti-emetics. I only tried one kind – dimenhydrinate which is known as Gravol in Canada. I am very sensitive to this category of drug and Gravol is about all that I can tolerate. Over the years, I have been on almost every anti-emetic on the market because of other health problems and medications that I have been on. There was a point in time – about 20 years ago, that I required about 10 Gravol daily. Needless to say I had great difficulty staying awake.
What surprises me is that any young person today would even begin smoking. They are taught from a very young age about the dangers of smoking. When I began smoking fifty years ago, almost everyone did it including the doctors. Nobody knew that it was dangerous. I recall that when I was pregnant my doctor told me that it was wonderful that I smoked because I would have an smaller baby and therefore an easier delivery. Can you imagine that advice being given today?
This is a reply to several posters. Firstly, if the price of tobacco were to triple or quadruple or if it were made illegal, the crime rate would skyrocket. You just have to look at the history of the US during prohibition to see that bad habits cannot be legislated out of existance. For the person who says that anyone can quit “cold turkey” – this is absolutely not true. Some people are successful but most are not and for some this can even be dangerous. It depends on the length of time that you have smoked and the amount that you spoke. When I took Chantix I did take it with an anti-emetic and I still wasn’t able to tolerate it. I did have great hopes for the product. I thank you all for the concern about my health – it concerns me greatly as well. I have even phoned the provincial government health plan to ask why there is inpatient treatment available for alcohol and drug treatment but not for smoking cessation. The answer of course – money. I can only hope that one day, with Hashem’s help, that I will be successful at quitting. It is indeed, an extremely bad habit.
Mandy – the people are very respectful. This is a discussion not a war.
Tzippi – I do have a community of like minded women and we all enjoy prayer and learning. I had a Hebrew day school education – not Solomon Shechter – it was more orthodox than that and it was all that was available where I grew up, aside from after school classes at the shul. Unfortunately the school only went to the 6th grade in those days and then it was on to public school.
Avram in MD – I am far more observant in my home than the home I was raised in. I believe the reason that I was given the Hebrew school education is because my parents (particularly my father) were ardent Zionists and because of the times – early 1950’s. I know that the role of the woman in the frum community is extremely important, but very different than the woman’s role in the Conservative community – where it is also very important. Having had little to nothing to do with any organized religous activities (aside from celebrating the chagim in the home) for many years, I really jumped into shul life about two and a half years ago. I have found great joy and comfort from relearning how to daven and attending daily services. The difference is that while I have never been what you could call a feminist, I love the role of the woman at my shul – I have done many of the activities that you speak of. Last year I read from the Torah for the first time and found it to be a very moving experience. I frequently am given aliyot as I am considered to be a Kohen at my shul. Coming from the place I was at a few years ago to the place I am at today is almost a religious rebirth. I have also attended many classes during this period at a variety of places – my shul, JCC and Chabad and have enjoyed each and every one of them. I shall continue to learn and to daven and to grow. I cannot predict which direction my life or my level of observance will take but it will not stagnate. For me this has been a spiritual awakening. Considering that until a couple of years ago I rarely even lit Shabbat candles and now I race home in the winter to make sure that I am on time to bench licht. For the time being, at least, Conservative Judaism suits me just fine. My respect for the frum community grows daily, but it is not for me – at least at this time in my life. What I do appreciate is all that I have learned from YWN and the posters here and the opportunity to question and dialogue with everyone. Todah Rabbah.
whatrutalkingabt – What a perfect business opportunity – open a donut shop in EY. I predict a very successful venture.
” Obviously breast milk is the best for the baby, but you can’t buy it in the supermarket. “
No, but if the child is an infant and the pediatrician feels that breast milk would be best for this child, most major pediatric medical centers have breast milk banks that may be able to supply this child with adequate amounts of donated breast milk.
Another thing that I find annoying is when doing a prayer out loud in unison, someone is racing far ahead of whomever is leading the davening. It is distracting and causes some people to lose their place. The next prayer won’t start until the leader does anyway, so slow down.
healthreform: If you believe than diabetes is caused by chemicals then I would love to talk to you about investing in swampland that I own in Florida.
Yatzmich – congratulations on quitting smoking. I would dearly love to quit and somehow cannot. The best I have been able to do is to cut way down – from at least a pack a day (and in Canada a pack has 25 cigarettes) to a maximum of 10 – usually much less. I have tried the patch – no good. I also tried Chantix (called Champix in Canada) and it was working but the nausea and vomiting caused me to lose too much weight which I cannot afford to do as I only weigh 98 pounds on a heavy day. I have also tried acupuncture without success. Maybe one day I will be successful at quitting. Aside from the mess and the smell, it is a very expensive habit.
This silly song will NOT leave my head and new verses keep popping in. I am adding 3 more and I invite you all to post more. It is very easy and we can make this the longest song ever written.
Yankel’s wife she said to him
Hock mir nisht a chainek
Go and see the eineklech
Especially the kleinek. (chorus)
Yankel bought a bicycle
So he could be more greener
After wobbling he fell
His suit’s now by the cleaner. (chorus)
Yankel joined the frummer gym
So he could be more fitter
Wrenched his back in traction now
His shul needs a pinch hitter. (chorus)
Graphic images have been on Canadian cigarette packs for many years. From what I have read these images have done nothing to decrease the numbers of smokers.
Oy vey its snowing AGAIN
For the first time I pray for rain
Inside I’ll stay snug
Like that bug in a rug
Until spring indoors I’ll remain.
I have been posting on the limerick thread but for some reason this parody popped into my head over the past couple of days and I cannot stop singing it.
Yankel Dovid (to the tune of Yankee Doodle)
Yankel Dovid went to town
To buy a new menorah
Was so proud of what he’d done
He had to dance a hora.
Chorus:
Yankel Dovid doodle-do
Yankel dressed so dandy
But like many Jewish men
Around the house – not handy.
Yankel bought mezzuzot new
To place upon his doorpost
After hammering his thumb
His project – it became toast. (chorus)
Yankel told his shaina veib
So long, I will see ya
Have to be at shul on time
I’m honored with aliyah. (chorus)
Yankel went up on his roof
His ladder was not sturdy
Now his leg is in a cast
The sight it isn’t purty. (chorus)
Yankel’s learned his place his shul
It is where he’s most handy
And on Shabbat he loves his job
He gives the kids some candy. (chorus)
“Tefillah is so very holy,
So make sure to say each word slowly,
Say every letter right,
Even when time’s tight,
And please help me out with this last line here….. “
smart cookie – the best I can do for a last line is:
And at kiddush you’ll eat roly-poly.
I know it is a little lightweight for the depth of the subject but I cannot think of anything else to rhyme with holy/slowly.
I sincerely apologize for my mis-spelling of YisGadol. I think many of the pronounciation issues arise from the breakneck speed at which many services are davened – particularly Ma’ariv as everyone is in such a hurry to get home.
Greetings from my snow-covered home
Looking outside you’d think this was Nome
Though the winds they do bluster
This message I can muster
Warmest wishes from me for a Shabbat Shalom.
The winds they did howl all through the night
The noise woke me up – gave me quite a fright
Early morning and I’m wide awake
At my ‘puter this ditty to make
Thinking of friends whom I don’t know by sight.
WIY, if you start eating donuts now you won’t enjoy your Chanukah allotment nearly as much. Hold off for now – its less than 2 weeks and then……..think of those wonderful sufganiyot – oozing with jam and covered in sugar. Yummmm. Less than 2 weeks – come on now you can do it. For the same reasoning do not indulge in potato latkes until Chanukah.
Perhaps MosheRose should spend less time concerning himself about whom I choose to be friendly with and more time concentrating on his spelling and punctuation. I don’t believe he has been using alternate screennames because I can’t recall seeing any that have been as poorly spelled or with so many punctuation errors. I think that he took a vacation from the CR or that he was merely lurking without posting.
Kapusta, thank you so much for the recipe. Perhaps I will even have time to make it today. I will let you know if I have success. Shabbat Shalom.
This thread was getting lost again
It took me awhile to find its name
I brought it back
I’m just a hack
So for this rhyme I take no blame.
Its very cold outside today
So indoors I did stay
Homemade soup in the pot
It was served piping hot
And chased my chilly blues away.
“When a person dresses ostentatiously, he or she is putting the body first and the soul second”
Wearing designer labels does not necessarily mean being ostentatious. In fact, when a person has good taste they can be dressed in a very costly garment and the only thing that you might notice is the fact that they are dressed neatly and that their clothing fits them impeccably. Likewise, the same person can shop carefully and make a twenty dollar dress look like a thousand dollar dress. One thing a person cannot buy is good taste.
kapusta: I would love to have your recipe. I have been looking for a small recipe that I can start in my breadmaker – which is only a one and a half pound one. I know that I can make a slightly larger recipe in it because I will be taking out the dough before it rises/bakes.
I think that certain things we hold on to are definitely for the sentiment. Many of us have candlesticks that our Babas brought from Europe. While they may be very valuable monetarily, their senitmental value is probably far greater in most cases. I would think that a family going through hard times should not have to relinquish certain family heirlooms. Other possessions however can and should be disposed of if one badly needs the funds. I would have no problem selling my engagement ring because it is “modern” but I would never sell my late mother’s ring because the diamond in it is one of 5 that my zaida brought from Russia.
AinOhdMilvado – “All of us who understood ICOT are showing our age”
You aren’t kidding. And in more ways than one. It is very, very cold here today and we are having our first snowstorm. Nu – my bones are aching and creaking. At least Mr. Ed was either shot or sent to a glue factory before he began to kvetch.
Until yesterday I thought that the “edit” button was for use by the moderators. Knowledge is good. Just a few minutes ago I posted on another thread. After I pressed “send post” I noticed that instead of “my friend” I had posted “my fiend”. Quite a difference. I just pressed “edit” and presto, was able to make a correction. Thanks to the OP.
A friend of mine who is a psychiatrist maintains that playing the lottery (in great moderation) is a good thing. “For a dollar week you buy a dream and we must always keep dreaming” is his motto.
If I were lucky enough to win a large amount, the first million would go to my shul – then……who knows – would invest it and just use the interest, at least for awhile until I made some decisions. My children and grands would be well looked after. Of course, you can only win if you have a ticket and usually forget to buy one. BTW, here in Canada all lottery winnings are taxfree.
If you are planning to have more than 200 people, then anywhere that you have it will be expensive. I don’t think that you could have a treif wedding just serving bologna for that number of people that wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg. Weddings should be for family and close friends – 100 – 150 people is more than enough to have at a wedding. I sometimes think that many invited guests feel resentful at having been invited with the price of gifts these days. I know that when I am invited I cannot give a gift that is less than what they are paying to have me there. It can become a vicious circle when acquaintances become part of the guest list. Just because you were my neighbor 20 years ago and I occasionally run into you at the grocery does not mean that you are obligated to invite me to your simcha. Similarly, I don’t want to be obligated to come to your simcha. Keep it small and simple.
ICOT: You gave me my humor for the day. That is terrific and Mr. Ed would be proud. Neighhhhh.
Thank you all for your concern regarding my shlishka-less state. I am eagerly anticipating the arrival of shipment #1 and have invited several friends to share the bounty with me at a Shabbat dinner one week from Friday. Can you please put a rush on the delivery???? (ps – you are all invited to the shlishka feast).
Personally, I think MOQ = Member of Quality.
“and it’s not that they just supress their evil natures. “
An evil nature has nothing to do with whether or not a person is frum – either FFB or BT. People with evil natures may be found in all walks of Jewish life (and non-Jewish) and “good” natures may also be found in all kinds of people. Luckily it seems that there are more people with good natures – in all kinds of Jews. This is not exclusively found amongst the frum.
Steven Speilberg’s reply to Mel Gibson
(This letter is attributed to Steven Speilberg – I cannot assure you whether or not it actually was written by him, but I find it interesting, nevertheless.)
I am one Jew who doesn’t accept your apology.
I don’t accept it, because you have spit on the graves of the
Goldwyns, the Warners, the Mayers, the Cohns, the Foxes, the
Thalbergs, the Selznicks, the Zukors and the thousands of other Jews
both living and dead who have made your questionable career possible.
When you do get out of “rehab” and recount your millions, please consider
how much of your fortune you would have if you had made your true
feelings known, when you were starting out in the film industry.
You are a despicable human being, one that doesn’t even have the sense
to realize that he has repeatedly bitten the hand that fed him.
Whatever you (or your publicity agents) say today, does not even begin
to redress your long standing theories about the Jewish people.
Apparently the apple does not fall far from the tree, as you haven’t
yet distanced yourself from your father’s views of the Holocaust,
Why should the Jewish community meet with you, or believe anything you
have to say now?
Your words are a thinly veiled attempt to admit that you really messed
up this time, and you want to cover yourself, so that you can continue
to be adored and further your revenue stream.
The truth is, you are an unreformed, unrepentant anti-semite of the
worst kind, and your hollow outreach is worth less than the price of
your next drink, which will surely find itself in your hands before
long. I’m buying.
Of course, if I am wrong, you could start by donating $1,000,000 today
to the State of Israel in her time of need.
Surely that is a small public relations price to pay for a man of your
stature who “honors all of God’s children”.
Steven Spielberg
New Rochelle, NY