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“Rational”, what you’re saying is not at all rational, it’s apikorsus. Someone with that attitude cannot possibly help this woman, because it’s an example of the exact same problem she already suffers from. Going to a tzadik and asking him to daven for you is what Yiddishkeit says to do, it’s what our ancestors have done since the beginning of our people.
Kolev went to Chevron to ask the Avos for help. Yirmiyahu went there as well, and also to Moshe Rabbenu, to inform them of the churban and demand that they raise a ruckus in Heaven. The Jews on their way to Bovel stopped to invoke Rochel’s tears. This is the Jewish way, and we believe that it is an effective way to get a yeshuah from Hashem.
Nobody can know in advance whether it will work in any specific instance. The gemara in Rosh Hashana says that every Jew knows that when a Jew gives tzedokoh in order for Hashem to help him, and he doesn’t get the help he asked for, it’s not because Hashem couldn’t help him, or didn’t hear him, it’s because Hashem in His wisdom decided otherwise, and therefore he will not be deterred from doing the same thing again the next time he needs help.
MilhouseParticipantDC, how are those two ways? The case of R Akiva definitely proves that it is appropriate to identify a living individual as Moshiach when it seems to be the case, even if it might still turn out otherwise. But the fact remains that Bar Kochva was <i>not</i> Moshiach. Therefore R Akiva’s identification of him as Moshiach was mistaken. Surely you don’t dispute that. You don’t still expect Bar Kochva to return and be Moshiach. Maybe his neshomo will be in whoever does finally come to redeem us, but the actual person who is Moshiach will be someone else.
What the Rambam is telling us is that even though R Akiva was mistaken, he did the right thing, and if the same circumstances were to arise again the next day he would have done it all over again, and not been afraid to make the same mistake twice. And that we should do the same, and not be afraid of being mistaken.
MilhouseParticipantYld, isn’t it completely obvious? You answered your own question. Wilson, the worst president the USA has ever had, insisted on punishing the Germans for WW1, and look how that worked out. It caused WW2. How can anyone suggest trying it again?
MilhouseParticipantYou just answered your own question — look how that worked out.
MilhouseParticipantPeople seem not to understand why hallel is said in shul (by those who say it), and why it is not said by those who don’t. I alluded to this earlier; now let me explain in detail.
Hallel is a mitzvah derabbanan, and the way Chazal instituted for it to be said normally is standing, and without interruption. Like any mitzvah derabbanan we say a bracha before it, asher kid’shonu bemitzvosov vetzivonu. On Pesach night, however, Chazal instituted that it be said sitting, at the seder, and in two separate sections with a long interruption between them. Bedieved one is yotzei if one says it in the normal fashion, but one is not doing the mitzvah as it is supposed to be done.
However there is a three-way machlokes about the brocho. Some rishonim hold that we should say a brocha before starting the first section of hallel, just as we always do. The interruption doesn’t matter, because that is how the mitzvah is supposed to be done this time. Other rishonim hold that we say the brocha twice, once before each section, since the mitzvah tonight is to say it in two sections. And other rishonim hold that since there is this interruption we do not say a brocha at all.
In practice we pasken that sofek brochos lehokel, and therefore we don’t say the brocha. But that means that according to the first two opinions we are missing something that we should be doing. Therefore the minhag arose in Sefarad, and was later adopted by chassidim, to say hallel after maariv, the regular way, even though that is not the way it’s supposed to be done, in order to say the brocha. Then we go home and do it again properly.
However this has a big down side. When we come to say Hallel properly we have already been yotzei the mitzvah, so we cannot now fulfill it properly as it was instituted. It’s the same issue as saying krias shma before davening, without the brochos. We are advised in that case to say it on condition, that if we will get to krias shma in davening before the zman then we now have intention davka not to be yotzei. But with the Pesach hallel there is nothing for such a condition to apply to. There is nothing that will either happen or not happen, on which we can condition our intent to be yotzei. Therefore minhag Ashkenaz is davka not to say this hallel, sacrificing the opportunity to say the brocha in order to be able to be yotzei the mitzvah in the proper manner. Minhag Sefarad makes the opposite sacrifice.
According to this reasoning, if you say the hallel after davening without a brocha you are nimtza kereach mikan umikan. You aren’t doing the mitzvah ketikunah, and you aren’t gaining the brocha. So what have you achieved?
MilhouseParticipantNo, it was a reply to Sam Klein’s suggestion.
MilhouseParticipantI could tell the divrei torah to the cat, if I had a cat…
MilhouseParticipantLYT, if you’re not going to say the bracha you may as well not say it at all. The whole point of saying it is in order to be able to say the bracha. The price you pay for that is that you are yotzei the mitzvah in a way that is not as Chazal instituted it, and by the time you repeat it properly you have already been yotzei. If you say it without a bracha then you have the worst of both worlds — nimtza kereach mikan umikan!
MilhouseParticipantIt’s a well-known klal throughout halacha. אין מיתה בציבור, because it’s a corporate entity. A tzibur owns assets, such as shuls (in a village or small town), the “Hekdesh”, it hires the rov and the maggid, And of course the tzibur of klal yisroel brings korbonos.
MilhouseParticipantThe RMA records the minhag Ashkenaz not to say hallel after maariv at all. Obviously those who follow that minhag every year will do so this year as well. But what has that got to do with those who do say it every year, in shul? Where do you get the idea that the RMA would tell them not to say it this year, at home? R Shachter paskens that way. I don’t think he is correct, and I intend to say it. He links it to publicity, but it has nothing to do with that. The reason is because of the bracha, and that consideration applies just as much this year as any year.
MilhouseParticipantSorry, my eyes are not what they used to be…
MilhouseParticipantR Schachter’s psak is on yutorah.org. I’m just reporting it, not saying you have to follow it.
For what it’s worth, I disagree with his psak about saying Hallel after Maariv on the seder nights. He paskens that even those who usually say it should not do so when davening biy’chidus, or even when davening with a home minyan all of whom will be at the seder. It seems to me otherwise, and I will be saying it, even though it looks like I will be completely alone both for maariv and for the sedorim.
MilhouseParticipantUbiquitin, what do you mean “there was no tzibur”? The tzibbur exists, whether there is a minyan in shul or not. A tzibur is a corporate entity, not an ad hoc minyan. It has a continuing existence, and it has obligations. One of those is that the torah be read in public. Right now most of our tziburim are unable to fulfill that obligation, but one day soon they will be able to, and when that happens they will each have to decide what to do about the missed parshios.
By the way a tzibur is not a shul, either; it’s a kehila. Some kehilos have more than one shul (or more than one minyan in the same shul) but they are all the same tzibur. If one of the shuls belonging that that kehila read the torah and another one didn’t, the common psak is that the shul that missed it does not have to make it up, because the kehila as a whole fulfilled its obligation.
MilhouseParticipantThose who say Morid Hatal start saying it at musaf, as normal.
For those who don’t normally say it, the question is when to stop saying Mashiv Horuach. R Hershel Schachter has paskened that on musaf of the first day of Pesach they should say Morid Hatal, even though that is not their usual minhag. At mincha they should start their normal summer minhag of not saying anything.
MilhouseParticipantShmo”s is an individual obligation, and of course it remains in effect now just as always. Nothing has changed in that regard. But that is irrelevant to the communtiy’s obligation of kriyas hatorah, which we are unable to fulfill now and will have to make up later.
MilhouseParticipantYid, yes, that’s precisely the point. An individual has no obligation to read the Torah, but a community does, and for the last three weeks our communities have not fulfilled this obligation. When we are finally able to do it again, let’s say for Parshas Shmini after Pesach, we will have to make up at least some of that obligation. There is a machlokes how much we will have to make up. One opinion is that we must read all the parshios that we missed, i.e. from Vayakhel through Shmini. Another opinion is that we don’t read from two sefarim, so we will read from Vayikra through Shmini. And a third opinion is that just as when an individual misses multiple tefillos he can only make up the last one, so also the community can only make up the last parsha that was missed, so we will only read Tzav and Shmini,
MilhouseParticipantIn Mitzrayim nobody was alone for the seder. On the contrary, ואם ימעט הבית מהיות משה then the Torah says ולקח הוא ושכנו. Kol shekein that someone who was alone had to combine with one or more neighbors and not be by himself.
MilhouseParticipantanhy123, the question was about the seder, where roasted meat is NOT ALLOWED. Both of your delicious-sounding suggestions are roasted, so are not suitable.
March 30, 2020 7:58 am at 7:58 am in reply to: Chicken for the seder – I need advice, fast! #1844642MilhouseParticipantPS: I’m not sure that a mere marinade counts as enough added liquid to save it from being considered a pot roast. I haven’t found a source that says how much liquid must be added, but it seems to me that it must be enough to change the nature of the cooking process from a dry one to a wet one.
March 30, 2020 7:58 am at 7:58 am in reply to: Chicken for the seder – I need advice, fast! #1844641MilhouseParticipantGHT, yes, grilling on the BBQ is roasting, and is not allowed at the seder. Pot roast, i.e. baked or cooked without added liquid, is not allowed either.
But baked with liquid shouldn’t be any different from cooked with liquid. After all, what difference does it make whether it’s cooked in a pot on the stove or in a pan in the oven? The main thing is that there is liquid, so it’s not a kind of roasting.
See siman 476, and the nos’ei keilim.
MilhouseParticipantGoldilocks, when the Sanhedrin is reestablished Rosh Chodesh Benching will be abolished, because we will not know in advance when Rosh Chodesh will be.
MilhouseParticipantGoldilocks, the farmer (who I do not believe is dati) didn’t ask questions, he asked the supreme court (a body that believes it is the true government of Israel) to ORDER the Rabbanut to declare this a leap year. The Rabbanut of course has no authority to do that even if it wanted to. In addition, I believe that it is completely assur for a Rov to take orders from any government entity on how to pasken.
MilhouseParticipantI have several times made a siyum on Tamid, either because I missed the morning minyan, or because I had no minyan available. (One year I was on a plane, and another year I was in a place with only one other Jew.) It takes me about an hour or a little longer to go through it (just the text, no Rashi).
But one year I was unable to leave my home or to learn Torah until chatzos, and faced the prospect of having to fast until an hour after chatzos. Fortunately someone was found to come and make a siyum
MilhouseParticipantJoseph, they often didn’t decide whether to make a leap year until late Adar, sometimes as late as the 29th. Once it even happened that they did it on Rosh Chodesh which would have been Nissan, but chazal disapproved of that.
Mobico, having read the lawsuit I don’t believe the plaintiff is dati.
Reb Eliezer, I don’t follow your reasoning. You say the idea is dangerous because if they did it we’d eat chometz on pesach. But if they could do it it would be Purim. The problem isn’t that doing it is bad or dangerous, it’s that the people who can do it aren’t available. There was still time for them to reassemble and do it until tonight. Now it’s too late. Even if Moshiach comes tonight (US time) it’s already rosh chodesh Nissan and therefore too late to make it Adar.
MilhouseParticipantI find that I just cannot daven properly at home. I can’t set my mind to it. Even when davening alone, I find that doing so in a shul helps me concentrate. Now that I can’t do that, my davening has been rushed, absent-minded, and I sometimes wonder whether I’m really saying all the words.
MilhouseParticipantThis idea is very dangeous. We would eat chametz on Pesach.
If we added an Adar then it wouldn’t be Pesach. And if the Sanhedrin is reestablished today, maybe it will decide to do just that. But without a sanhedrin we unfortunately just don’t have the authority to do it.
MilhouseParticipantSome idiot sued the Rabbanut in the Israeli High Court, demanding that the High Court order the Rabbanut to explain why it can’t declare a leap year.
The plain fact is that Ibur Hashana can ONLY be done by the Sanhedrin, or a beis din authorized by the Sanhedrin. And the only way we get a Sanhedrin back is by Eliyahu coming and giving them smicha. In which case our problems will be solved and we may not need the extra month.
MilhouseParticipantWeddings should be done with a rabbi, the couple, and two kosher eidim.
You need a minyan in order to say the 7 brochos.
MilhouseParticipantNo, you can NOT make a minyan over the phone. They must be physically present in the same space. See Orach Chaim ch 55 for the details.
Saying Amen is a different matter. If you know someone has said a bracha, even if you didn’t hear him, you should say Amen. You’re not yotzei anything, but you are simply acknowledging the bracha.
In my opinion making a “virtual minyan” is a wonderful thing, since it gives chizuk and promotes the feeling of davening with a tzibur, but there is no actual tzibur. Therefore there is no need for ten; any number of people davening together over Zoom gives the same feeling, and thus makes our davening better.
Also, it shows the Eibershter that we’re doing what we can. Just as someone who has no matzos for Pesach should use something else to stand in for them, with the understanding that he is not actually performing the mitzvah but only a zecher, so a virtual “minyan” is a zecher to the actual mitzvah that we can’t fulfill today.
MilhouseParticipantIn fact now that I think about it I’m pretty sure I saw a service over 30 years ago, before there was even a world wide web, that let you sell your chometz by email.
MilhouseParticipantYes, chometz can be sold without a physical presence. For at least the past ten years, I think even longer, there have been several web sites allowing people to sell their chometz online. Just search for “sell your chometz” and you will find it.
March 17, 2020 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm in reply to: Rabbi Akiva Eiger’s pesak regarding the cholera epidemic of 5591 #1840729MilhouseParticipantI am looking at the letter now, and will summarize it.
First, it’s dated 2 Nitzavim 5591, and addressed to Rabbi Eliyahu Gutmacher, the rav of Pleshen, where the epidemic was happening.
Tefila betzibur should be done in shifts of approximately 15 men, starting at daybreak, and each person should be told what time to come. The same for mincha.
After davening, both morning and night, they should say a few chapters of tehilim, and then Kel Rachum Sh’mecha, Aneinu, Mi She’ana, and the Yehi Ratzon after tehillim, and also pray for the king, his family and ministers, and all the country’s residents. Also at each tefila, morning and night, after Parshas Hatamid the whole Ketores should be said betzibur, and then the Ribon that is printed in the Maamodos for Sunday after the Ketores.
To enforce the 15-man cap ask the police to station a guard. Ask the magistrate and tell him I said so, and if he refuses then write to the government here (in Posen) and you will certainly succeed if you use my name and tell them I gave you all this advice, including to say tehilim and pray for the king.
Also, collect 6 Polish groszy (known in Hebrew as “gedolim”, because of their size) per person, including unborn babies, and make a Pidyon Nefesh with the money, and send some of it to me so I can also make a Pidyon Nefesh for you, and then distribute the money to the poor.
Beware of the cold, each person should wear a flannel cloth over the abdomen. Don’t eat bad things, especially cucumbers. Reduce consumption of fruit, fish, and beer. Don’t eat to satiety, and try to eat many small meals. Be careful with hygiene, don’t let any filth lie around the house, change into clean clothes several times a week. Don’t be depressed, don’t go for walks at night, go out for a walk in the fields on sunny afternoons. Open the windows every morning to air out the rooms. Don’t go out with an empty stomach. Eat a few mustard seeds on an empty stomach. Wash your face and hands every morning with oak bark and water. Clean rooms a few times with strong vinegar mixed with rose water (presumably for the smell).
March 17, 2020 10:38 am at 10:38 am in reply to: Rabbi Akiva Eiger’s pesak regarding the cholera epidemic of 5591 #1840673MilhouseParticipantJoseph, the letter is printed in Igeres Sofrim #29. R Akiva Eger was asked his opinion about tefila betzibur during a cholera epidemic. I don’t know where Avi K got “shorted tefilot” from; if he meant “shorter” then on the contrary the letter recommends *longer* tefilos, because he suggests some *additions* to the regular tefilos. But he says minyanim (in that shul) should be limited to 15 men at a time, davening in shifts, each man should be assigned to a minyan and told what time to come, and the government should be asked to station a policeman outside the shul to enforce the 15-man cap. If the government is reluctant to send a policeman they should say that R Akiva requested it, and he is sure that his name will do the trick.
He also gives other advice, including going out for walks in the fresh air, keeping rooms ventilated, etc.
I *assume* (but this is only an assumption) that the 15-man limit was based on his personal knowledge of the size of that shul, and that in a bigger venue he might have prescribed a higher cap. My own opinion about the current situation is that shuls should remain open with strict caps on capacity (I would hope there is no need for a policeman), people should sit apart from each other and not walk about, touch points should be disinfected several times a day, and of course anyone who is particularly vulnerable should not be going *anywhere* including shul.
MilhouseParticipantOn the contrary, it’s the high threshold that is causing the problem, since it throws away votes and forces people into unnatural blocs. Though the main problem with the threshold is that votes for lists that don’t make it over the threshold are thrown away. If those votes were subject to the same transfer rules as the excess votes the larger parties get, the problem would be much much smaller. And if instead of restricting transfers to one pair of lists, predetermined by the party leaders, they allowed each voter himself to decide where his vote should go, as they do in Australia and as NYC has now decided to do, then the problem would really go away. The Knesset would really represent the people’s preferences, and a majority could be formed by negotiating with each small faction independently, just as it would if you had to negotiate with the voters themselves. Or, if no majority can be formed among the people, then there SHOULDN’T be a government imposed on them by a minority.
MilhouseParticipantNo, you need to listen to the video. Otherwise you cannot understand the question and therefore cannot answer it.
MilhouseParticipantSo sell it to me and I will sell it to a goy. I have no such silly hangups.
MilhouseParticipantWood alcohol is not chometzdik.
MilhouseParticipantAssuming that “firewood” can be chometz (i.e. it’s not actually wood, it’s edible, but its primary purpose is to use as fuel, such as “shemen sreifah”), why would it be a problem? Buy it now, and sell it over Pesach. Even if you’re one of those people who (for some reason I do not understand) won’t eat chometz that was sold over Pesach, you’re not planning to eat this “wood” anyway, so what’s the problem?
MilhouseParticipantTrump has never encouraged white supremacists, let alone antisemites. He did very clearly denounce the neo-nazis who were involved in the Charlottesville riot, while making it clear that they were not the only ones there, just as the left-wing thugs who were actually responsible for the violence were not the only ones there. Which is of course nothing but the truth, that edited like you deny.
Most of the white supremacists seem to hate Trump and publicly denounce him as a Jew-lover. But if some claim he is on their side, this does not create any obligation on him to address that absurd claim.
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MilhouseParticipantOn the contrary, when drinking water to wash away an obstruction in ones throat one derives no benefit at all from the water. If one could easily and conveniently spit it out afterwards one would probably do so. Ditto for swallowing water in order to wash down pills, or to wash away bile in the mouth. One has no wish to swallow the water, and does so only since it’s inconvenient or impractical not to. None of that is a benefit from the water. Hydration, however, is the primary benefit that people derive from water, just as nutrition is the primary benefit people derive from food, and therefore does not depend on pleasure of the palate.
MilhouseParticipantAnother ramification would be before a taanis. Often, someone will drink water before a taanis to give extra hydration. Unless they’re thirsty, they would not recite a brocha.
That is just not true. They are deriving benefit from this world so they are obliged to say a bracha.
Where does it say anything about flavorless food? The Mishnah and Gemara mention water.
It’s the exact same principle. Eating flavorless food is exactly the same as drinking water. If it’s for nutrition you say a bracha, otherwise you don’t.
MilhouseParticipantDaas yochid, if you “just want to hydrate yourself for health reasons”, that is לצמאו. If you are dehydrated then you need water, therefore you are thirsty. It is exactly the same as eating flavorless food when you are malnourished; how could you possibly imagine that this would not be called לרעבונו, or that you would be exempt from a bracha? The principle here, as always, is אסור להנות מעולם הזה בלי ברכה, so a bracha is necessary if and only if there is הנאה. Eating flavorless food, or drinking plain water, when one is full and hydrated, produces no הנאה, therefore one says no bracha. Doing so when one is malnourished or dehydrated, i.e. hungry or thirsty, produces הנאה, therefore one does say a bracha. Anything else is פלוידעריי.
MilhouseParticipantsimplesense, the rule that the only true juices are those of grapes and olives (not only for the purpose of brochos but also for shabbos and for hechsher lekabel tum’ah) seems to derive from and depend on the fact that in the ancient world these were the only fruits commonly juiced. People who juiced other fruits were considered odd, and “botloh daatom”. Since this is no longer the case, it is very likely that the rule is no longer valid, but we lack poskim with the breitkait to say so. (There are poskim who suggest that juicing oranges is nowadays assur mid’oraisa, but I have never heard of one who will also rule that orange juice is machshir lekabel tum’ah, or that its bracha is ha’etz, which should naturally follow.)
MilhouseParticipant“My understanding is that if you drink water for pleasure, you say shehakol. But if you drink water simply to keep yourself hydrated, you don’t say a blessing.”
You have seriously misunderstood the halacha. Drinking to keep yourself hydrated is the only case when you DO say the bracha, since that is the only case in which you derive benefit. It is OTHER uses, such as washing down pills or bile, that do not have a bracha, because one gets no benefit from ingesting the water.
February 15, 2020 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm in reply to: The top two dems are either a sodomite, or a communist #1831957MilhouseParticipantSanders is definitely an admirer of communism. He spend his honeymoon in the Soviet Union and supported it strongly throughout its existence, and he still supports the communist regimes in Cuba and Venezuela.
MilhouseParticipantThe reason coffee is not ho’eitz is because all the coffee that was put in the water is then taken out. It’s like a vegetable soup from which all the vegetables were removed after cooking.
While our modern science of physics tells us that since the soup is not pure water there must obviously be some substance of the vegetable left, and that if we were to dry out the vegetables we removed and then weigh them we would inevitably find that they weigh less than they did when they were put in, the halacha’s view is different.
The halacha’s view is that color, taste, and smell have no substance themselves, no mass, but are merely properties that a substance has; מראה אין בו ממש, טעם אין בו ממש, ריח אין בו ממש. When you cook vegetables in a soup and then remove them, the same vegetables went in and came out and all that they did while they were in the water was to impart to it color, taste, and smell. What you have left, according to halacha, is not water with particles of vegetable in it, which carry color, taste, and smell, but rather pure water that happens to look, taste, and smell differently from normal water, because it spent time closely associated with the vegetables and learned to copy them.
Therefore the bracha on the soup — or on the coffee — is the same shehakol that we say on normal water. If we were to drink the coffee itself together with the water, then the bracha would be ha’etz. Which leads us to the question of hot chocolate, and the achronim struggle to understand why we should not say ha’etz on it, since the cocoa powder is not removed but is drunk together with the water. (The achronim do not discuss chocolate itself, i.e. the hard substance that we call chocolate stam, because it was not invented until about 1800. All mentions of “chocolate” in achronim refer to hot chocolate.)
This leads to the question of instant coffee. “Reb” Eliezer, with his “daas baalei batim”, thinks it’s more obvious to say shehakol on instant coffee than on regular brewed coffee. But the opposite is true. What is instant coffee, after all, but brewed coffee from which the water has been removed? If it were indeed true that color, taste, and smell have no substance, then instant coffee could not exist. The jar would be empty. But the fact is that when we buy the jar it is full, and we take a spoon of this very real physical substance and dissolve it in water, and drink it without removing anything. So it’s harder to understand why it’s not ha’eitz.
By the way, this same principle that color, taste, and smell have no substance, is why if you spill wine into a mikveh and the water’s color changes it is pasul, but if you soak a dyeing substance in fewer than 3 login of water and remove it, and then spill the water into a mikveh and change its color, it remains kosher. The halacha regards the color that the dye imparted to the water as having no substance, while the wine obviously does have substance.
February 13, 2020 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm in reply to: He who lives in glass houses shouldn’t throw roger stone #1831631MilhouseParticipantJoseph is 100% correct that “The President of the United States is the head of the Department of Justice as well as of every other departments, agency and branch of the executive government of the United States.”
Coffee addict, there is no “balance of power” within the executive branch. How could there be, since there is no “executive branch” outside the president. The US constitution says that the president *is* the executive; everyone who works in that branch works for him and exercises only those powers he has delegated to them. So how can there be a balance of power?
Eliezer, who is not a “reb”, the president *does* control the Justice Department, whether you like it or not. That’s how the constitution has it. And using that power to give someone a small measure of justice is not being a dictator.
MilhouseParticipantEli (I refuse to call you “Reb”), the rise in antisemitism is all coming from Trump’s enemies. Because the Democratic Party tolerates antisemitism, while the Republican Party does not. There are no open antisemites in the GOP; any that are discovered are kicked out. But in the Democrats they are honored and powerful, and those who don’t like it are very careful not to offend them. So naturally their supporters feel free to lash out, while pointing figures at a bogeyman called “white supremacy” which just barely exists.
To the original question, Trump is not a good person. If being a good person were a requirement for being president I would have to oppose him. But he has been a good president over all. I didn’t support him in the Republican primary four years ago. My choices were Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, and Rick Perry. But all three crashed. In November I didn’t vote for either major candidate, and I expected Trump to be just as bad as Clinton would have been. I have been very pleasantly surprised, and I intend to vote for him this year. On the other hand, if something were to happen to him I think Pence would be a much better president; he would have all of Trump’s maalos and none of his chesronos.
MilhouseParticipantEli, Trump is the legitimate president. Who got more votes is completely irrelevant, and what do you mean by Russians interfering in three states? The only way Russia participated in the election is by releasing TRUE information so the voters were better informed, and by buying a tiny handful of Facebook ads. Neither of these things can possibly affect the result’s legitimacy.
February 7, 2020 7:57 am at 7:57 am in reply to: Is Shmiras Shabbos the answer to climate change? #1829733MilhouseParticipant“We are destroying the ozone layer through carbon emissions ”
That makes no sense, even if you believe the garbage the totalitarian left is putting out. Carbon dioxide has NO CONNECTION to the ozone layer.
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