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Beware of Chinese junk. Most of the stuff they’ve “donated” to other countries has been defective.
MilhouseParticipantPhys, come of your high horse. Nobody pretends Trump is a good person. His flaws as a person are well known, though they are not as bad as those of his opponent four years ago, the corrupt, bribe-taking, congenital liar Mrs Clinton. But he was not elected to be a good person, he was elected to be a good president, and he has been. If he loses the election the country will be in the hands of the “progressives” who hate America, hate Jews, hate white people, hate G-d, hate everything that is good and love everything that is evil. Jews will be a lot less safe with them in charge.
MilhouseParticipantPrice controls, wage controls, “We are all Keynesians now”, “affirmative action”, OSHA, the ERA, the EPA, the Endangered Species Act, vast expansion of social security, medicare, and medicaid, expansion of the Voting Rights Act, etc. These are all things that no Republican today would do; we would call such a person a RINO. And that’s what Nixon was, except on communism.
Also, we now know that the USA knew that Arafat ordered the murder of the Khartoum hostages, but refused to do anything about it and covered it up for years; that’s on Nixon.
Search for an article by John Fund titled “Nixon at 100: Was He ‘America’s Last Liberal?”
MilhouseParticipantRR44, it doesn’t say that at all. You’re just making it up. Pulling it out of your nether regions. I say we have NOT been told that there will be a return of the 10 makos before moshiach comes, and therefore we cannot take any comfort from their doing so.
MilhouseParticipantThe same as when Clinton lost. The Dems will never accept their loss.
MilhouseParticipantIf you consider Greater NYC as a separate country, the rest of the USA is not even in the top ten in per capita deaths or per capita cases. New York alone, is.
MilhouseParticipantNixon’s middle name was Milhous, not Milhouse. And yes, other than being anti-communist he was a pretty bad president — he’d have fit in well in today’s Democratic Party.
April 20, 2020 12:03 am at 12:03 am in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1850769MilhouseParticipantHow do you know your neighbors have their own food? Did you ask?
And nobody is interested in what you prefer. The fact is that we are allowed to go to the supermarket to get food, and to restaurants to pick up orders, even if we are not literally starving. Whether you prefer to do so is your business but none of us are mechuyav to copy you.
Kol shekein we are allowed, 100%, to go to our neighbors to pick up food, even if we’re not starving, and definitely if we are. And definitely on yomtov when we can’t go to stores!
Therefore, even according to the opinion that Eruv Tavshilin is for Kevod Shabbos, i.e. we are seriously relying on the hypothetical guests to allow cooking, and even if we accept the psak of those rabbonim, which we do not have to do, we can still cook for hypothetical guests during the current crisis. And for real ones, if they actually do need.
April 19, 2020 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1850703MilhouseParticipantAgain, what has that got to do with the price of fish (or bats) in China? The same two points apply. First these poskim did not say one cannot go out to get food. I am quite sure you do so. And it would be absurd beyond belief to say that one may go to a supermarket or restaurant but not to the neighbor! Second, even if they had said it, nobody is mechuyav to accept their psak. And third, they’ve changed their minds anyway.
April 19, 2020 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1850581MilhouseParticipantRE, what has that got to do with the price of fish? NOBODY has said that one cannot go out to get food. How are YOU getting food, if not by going out? One can get it from a supermarket, from a restaurant, so why not from a neighbor? Who said so?
And even if this posek had said so (which he didn’t), he is not the only posek and not everyone would have to accept his psak.
MilhouseParticipant1. If there’s no corporation then what is the “business” that he is selling? That is the distinction I was making in the original comment. Even if there’s no corporation on paper, he may be treating it as if it were a corporation, in which case it would be the same thing. But generally if it is set up that way then he will have a corporation; if he doesn’t then he isn’t running it that way.
2. Yerusha is different, because it’s not really momonos. There’s a specific mitzvah involved. Still, even there I believe that if a person left no will and dina demalchusa now says so much of the estate belongs to Reuven and so much to Sarah, then that is dina. We can say that after the yerusha al pi torah was chal, then the dina malchusa rearranged it and that is the final disposition.
But certainly in other financial topics, yes, a beis din must determine what the dina demalchusa is, and pasken accordingly, unless the parties specifically agree to be judged by Choshen Mishpot instead, which dina demalchusa allows.
On the “tzibur of one” you just agreed with me. When a second Jew moves into town he is automatically a 50% owner of everything that belongs to the tzibur. That proves that the tzibur has its own existence, and is not simply its current members. Because if it were simply its members then when it was down to one he inherited everything, so how could the new person be entitled to anything? How can the first person suddenly lose half of the assets without his consent? That proves that the assets were never his, they were the tzibur’s, i.e. the tzibur, even with only one member, remained a corporate entity and was not subsumed into his personal rechush. A privately held corporation would therefore have the same din. It’s a separate entity from its sole shareholder, and when he sells the shares it is now the new owner’s.
MilhouseParticipantWhat has race got to do with anything? Who mentioned race before you, charliehall? Maybe it’s you who are racist, since you see to have it on your mind.
MilhouseParticipantCharliehall, as far as I know it is never formally defined, it is just assumed as a given. See in particular the halachos on the ownership of shuls.
MilhouseParticipantAlyosha, for the last time tell us: Yes or no, do nations have the right to protect their borders or not? Does every other nation have to leave its borders open for anyone who likes to invade it, or only the USA? Tell us how a country can even exist without borders.
April 19, 2020 10:58 am at 10:58 am in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1850436MilhouseParticipantRE, that is not correct. Even in Lakewood people are allowed to leave home to get food. There is no difference whether they’re getting it from a supermarket, a restaurant, or the neighbor.
MilhouseParticipantNot sure what’s happening to comments. The length of a month is NOT based on any gematria. I’ve never heard of the gematria you cite, but I can almost guarantee it is no more than 300 years old, and I doubt it’s more than 100 years old. It was made up after the event, and made to fit.
The length of the month goes back at least to the gemara and possibly earlier. We’re told it’s halacha lemoshe misinai, but not all HLMMs are actually that old; there are some that are clearly post-Moshe, so the mere fact that this is called that doesn’t prove it’s really 3300 years old. But whether it was revealed to Moshe at Sinai, or calculated by Chazal based on the Greek and Babylonian astronomers, it was definitely not derived from any gematria.
MilhouseParticipantAs for the second answer, how do you know that one can’t, in principle, have a “tzibur” of just one? What if the Jewish community in a town dwindles to one person? Does he in his private capacity become the sole owner of its property?! Or does it still belong to the tzibur, and if a second Jew moves in he will automatically get a 50% share?
MilhouseParticipantJoseph, the difference between a corporation and a private person doing business is that when a private person sells, he generally doesn’t sell the business, because there is no “business” to sell. The business is him. Rather, he sells the inventory. Whereas if it’s a corporation he sells the shares, and the corporation can go on doing business as before.
And yes, as far as I know dina demalchusa, just like minhag hatagorim, almost always overrides Choshen Mishpat. (Indeed the whole koach of dina demalchusa seems to be because it is a strong minhag hatagorim.)
MilhouseParticipantDowntrodden?! Invaders into a country are not the downtrodden. Tell me, do you advocate the same policy for Israel?
MilhouseParticipantJoseph, the first and easy answer is that in dinei momonos the rule is that dina demalchusa defines ownership. If the malchusa has created the corporate entity, halacha recognises it for the same purposes.
The second answer is that we have a corporate concept in halacha too, i.e. a tzibur. A tzibur owns property, and we say Tzibur eino meis, i.e. it has continuous existence even as its individual members join and leave.
But here it’s even simpler. It doesn’t matter whether we regard the company as if it were a person. What matters is what is in the minds of the buyer and seller. There is a difference whether I am selling the inventory or the entire business. Even an unincorporated business would have the same din; if I sell the business as a going concern, then I am selling everything. If I continue working in the store, I am obviously doing so as the new owner’s employee.
MilhouseParticipantAnonymous, I have read that document. AT NO POINT was Cuomo EVER presented with a proposal to purchase 16,000 ventilators. There was never any such proposal, never even a suggestion, so it is a LIE to accuse him, as Trump did, of rejecting it. Buying so many ventilators was simply not an option given any consideration.
Also, IN ADDITION to this, there is no reason to suppose Cuomo ever saw this document. It’s standard contingency planning by a government department, and there would have been no reason to involve the governor. But that’s not the main point.
I am boruch Hashem very far from Trump Derangement Syndrome. When he is falsely attacked I defend him. And I am certainly no fan of Cuomo. He is a terrible governor, and if the Dems replace Biden with him on the presidential ticket he would make a terrible president. But just as I defend Trump when he is falsely attacked I must defend him too when the same thing happens to him.
MilhouseParticipantAlyosha, what is the difference between breaking into someone else’s house and into his country? Do we have a border or not? Do you think we should just let our country be invaded? That we should just stand by as anyone crosses the border, without any checks, without any permission, who could be terrorists, or violent criminals, or carrying an infectious disease, or anything? How is that different from an invasion? And invaders are normally shot. Should Israel also let anyone walk over the border?! Why are we different from Israel? Those caught coming over the border need to be pushed right back over it, but they have been trained to FALSELY claim asylum, so they are imprisoned until their claim can be heard. They are free to leave whenever they like — back to where they came from. If they CHOOSE to remain in prison, what should be done with their children? We would love to let their children stay with them, but a Democrat judge ordered the government not to hold children for more than 20 days, so what choice is there?
MilhouseParticipantMoshe, if he loses it very likely WILL be because of fraud. And Clinton has still not accepted her loss, and still claims she was somehow cheated, because all of her fraud was not enough. So why do you expect Trump to behave any better? He’s at least as big a baby as she is.
MilhouseParticipantwe’ve been told that there will be a return of the 10 makos before moshiach comes,
Where and when were we told that?
April 17, 2020 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1850119MilhouseParticipant“Marbeh”, the guests we’re cooking for are hypothetical. We are cooking (according to the first explanation; according to the second explanation we’re pretending to cook) for hypothetical guests who might hypothetically show up, but whom we have no reason to actually expect.
RE, if they don’t like to eat it outside they could take it home.
MilhouseParticipantKeep this in mind next time Gov Cuomo complains about lack of respirators and beds.
In 2015 he was informed that the State had only 2000 respirators on hand when the recommended level ( in the event if a pandemic) was 16000. Instead of buying them, he instead asked his Health Commissioner, Howard Zucker, to create a protocol to in effect determine who shall ( live ) get one and who shall ( die ) not get one.This is not true at all. And yes, I’ve read the document on which it’s supposedly based. There’s not a single word there even hinting at such a wild story.
MilhouseParticipant-scale or not, its funny how there were so many “warnings” before Trump took office and during, while before then we never heard of such a word as pandemic. Definitely not under Obama.
Who’s “we”, paleface?
MilhouseParticipantA misdemeanor is a crime.
MilhouseParticipantRE, the length of the month does not derive from any gematria.
MilhouseParticipantAlyosha, which government in the world doesn’t separate criminals who are arrested from their children? What exactly do you want? That anyone with children should be immune from arrest, no matter what crimes they commit?!
MilhouseParticipantRightwriter, where are you getting this nonsense? All of those cited and more were pandemics. Pandemics are nothing unusual. It would be extraordinary to go eight years without one. Therefore it was not at all remarkable for Dr Fauci to predict that there would be at least one during Trump’s administration.
MilhouseParticipantDoesn’t gematria, like gezeirah shavah, require a teacher-to-student path from Moshe Rabbeinu’s time to be meaningful?
No! If it did there would be no gematrias at all, because there’s no reason to suppose the whole concept existed in Moshe Rabbenu’s day.
April 17, 2020 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1849969MilhouseParticipantBy the way, in Eretz Yisroel, when Shvi’i Shel Pesach falls on a Friday, in my opinion one may cook kitniyos for Shabbos, because the hypothetical guests may be Sefardim. Since we’re inventing them anyway, we can invent them any way we like.
April 17, 2020 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1849968MilhouseParticipantOne more point: This whole question only arises according to the opinion in the gemara that Eruv Tavshilin was instituted for Kevod Shabbos. But according to the opinion that it was instituted for Kevod Yomtov the whole question doesn’t arise in the first place. According to that opinion we are not really relying on hypothetical guests; that story is just a polite fiction in order to spare Yomtov’s feelings. Everyone understands that we’re really cooking for Shabbos, but for Yomtov’s sake we pretend we’re cooking for guests that might show up, and that we really intend to subsist on Shabbos on just the egg and the matzoh that we put aside on Erev Yomtov. Since this is all just a pretense, it doesn’t matter how thin it is.
MilhouseParticipantThey are very different. A company is a corporate entity. It doesn’t matter whether there are many shareholders or only a few, or even only one, it has it’s own existence, and when it is sold it is sold.
A private business means there is no corporate entity, there is only the Jewish proprietor doing business in his own name. Before Pesach he sold not the business but only the chometz inventory. Therefore if you think his continuing to sell that same inventory invalidates the sale, then you would be machmir.
But if he sold the whole business then he was not selling the inventory on Pesach, the business was, and it was always clear that that was going to happen. There was no pretense that it wouldn’t, nobody even asked him that it shouldn’t. Even if he personally stood behind the counter selling the business’s chometz, he was doing so as the company’s employee, which is perfectly muttar even lechatchila. So there’s no reason to raise any concerns about the sale.
MilhouseParticipantIt would be strange if eight years went by without a pandemic of some sort.
MilhouseParticipantYserbius: There still hasn’t been one lab confirming that the virus is man made.
Rightwriter: -There is an investigation going on now regarding if this in fact came from chinese lab.
There has always been a plausible hypothesis that the outbreak began at a lab, rather than a wet market. Nobody ever seriously disputed that. But this is a very different thing from claiming the virus was man-made. Nobody who knows anything, no sane normal person, is suggesting that. Certainly there is no investigation taking such a thing seriously.
MilhouseParticipantAnd this is the man you support?
Yes, because compared to whomever the DNC will replace Biden with, that will be nothing.
MilhouseParticipantMuch like Clinton reacted when she lost the last election. Maybe with a little more dignity, but I doubt it.
April 17, 2020 1:36 am at 1:36 am in reply to: Cooking from Yom Tov to Shabbos with Eruv Tavshilin under Coronavirus #1849884MilhouseParticipantHow do we know people won’t come? Sure, they shouldn’t, and if they come we will probably lock the door and not let them in, but they could come, and we could let them in and feed them, or at least put the food outside the door for them to take and eat somewhere else.
MilhouseParticipantPS: Just because the Xians have an idea doesn’t automatically make it possul. Sometimes they hit on the truth, if only by accident.
MilhouseParticipantYisroelazear, “shlita” can also be understood as a prayer for techiyas hameisim.
MilhouseParticipantRegarding the question of Kabolas Ol Mitzvos, one thing must be kept clear: It is kabolas Ol Mitzvos, not Kabolas Kiyum Mitzvos. The requirement is that the ger must accept the obligation to keep the mitzvos; he is not required to commit to actually keeping them. The gemoro’s loshon in this regard is very on point: He is not told “Yesterday you could eat chelev and from now you will no longer be able to eat it”. That would make sense. But no. He is instead told “Yesterday if you ate chelev you did nothing wrong, but from now if you eat chelev you will get kores”. In other words we assume he will do averos, and he must accept that he will be punished for them. In essence a ger is saying he’d rather be in a Yiddisher Gehennom than in a Goyisher Gan Eden.
For instance, there is a teshuva in Igros Moshe about a woman who admitted, years after her giyur, that in the mikeveh, at the very moment she was telling the beis din that she accepted ol mitzvos, she intended to do an avera. She was under no illusion that it was not really an avera, she knew that she was now going to be obligated in mitzvos and should not do it, but the temptation was too strong. Reb Moshe paskened that the giyur was 100% valid. A ger does not promise to be a tzadik. Everyone including the beis din knows that he will do averos, because he is a normal human being with a yetzer hora, and giyur does not get rid of it. The fact that she knew what she was planning to do was an avera is enough to validate her giyur.
MilhouseParticipantWell, there’s one thing to be happy about. Bill Gates is a Goy lechol hade’os, so the conspiracy theorists are not concentrating on Jews.
MilhouseParticipantits even more weird that a lot of ppl knows no one personally that has corona virus yet everyday these numbers they show on TV grow exponentially
Excuse me? Do you live in our community? How can you say something like this? Everyone in our community knows those affected. Ein bayis asher ein shom meis.
Hospitals are not overcrowded like they say on the news.
Again, where are you that this is the case? In most of America, yes, the panic was unjustified. The Democrats have pushed this for their own political benefit. But in the greater NYC area the hospitals are definitely overcrowded. Not nearly as bad as they predicted, based on their invalid models (and the whole topic of modelling needs a serious review) but still seriously overstressed and overcrowded, and people in our community have died as a result.
MilhouseParticipant“There is a reason why the CDC had a pandemic office that Trumop got rid of since it hadnt been used. ”
That is an outright LIE.
MilhouseParticipantYY, the opinions of professional historians are no more valid than anybody else’s. Many professional historians are socialists, idiots, or both. Wilson was definitely the worst president since at least the Civil War, if not ever. Maybe Buchanan was worse.
MilhouseParticipantNo matter what happens at the election, Biden will not become president. He’s not physically capable of it.
MilhouseParticipantJoseph, on the contrary, the Lautenberg maneuver is easier in a presidential election, because the fifty state elections are not for the president at all, but for lists of would-be electors, who are pledged to support their respective parties’ nominee. Each party’s rules say that its national committee has the authority to replace the presidential ticket. They can do so two weeks before the election, or the day before, or even after the election, at any time until Dec 14, when the electors vote. Since electors are chosen for their loyalty to the party, almost all of them can be expected to vote for the new nominee whoever it is.
MilhouseParticipantTrump definitely benefits. But anything can happen between now and November, including the Democrats pulling a Lautenberg maneuver in late October, swapping out Biden for someone they think will do better. (And the replacement will not necessarily be Biden’s running mate.)
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