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Im typing this on my I-phone….Thanks Steve!
minyan gal…you don’t need to explain a thing…and good for you!
I will add that Conservative movement in Canada is much closer aligned with orthodoxy, in Canada then the US…There is a big difference between the two countries….
Daven before the exam, but study before…thats the proper way….
Daven for parnasa, on your way to work is the best way…
600 Kilo Bear…so How do you really feel?
” i actually heard a story once that a lady was pregnant and the husband bought a crib for the baby when she was in her 8th mo and she had a miscarriage”
Whatever the reason for the miscarriage, I can assure you it was not because of the crib.
“There’s this thing called a sonogram. It emits sound waves, and measures the reflection, and creates an image based on that which shows density.Amazing, I know. “
FUNNY
“ElAl doesn’t fly from Brooklyn.”
LOL…There is a world beyond Brooklyn
Giving a family a break on paying full tuition is for people who need help, who have exhausted all other means and have no choice but to accept it. To me this means that the husband desires to work, is searching for work and is unable to find it, or simply not making enough..
However if the women is working and the ONLY bread winner, while the husband is not working but is physically and mentally capable of doing so, Then why should families paying full tuition subsidies their children?
Then how do you justify a man sitting in Kollel all day and the women working to support their families? How can you have it both ways?
I feel it is my responsibility to pay the full tuition bill, if that means working longer and harder, or having my wife work as well…so be it…
I have no problem with people who are doing their best getting help, but I do have an issue subsidising a child’s tuition when the father is not working and is “able body and mind”….
While there is plenty of opportunity to stimulate your brain staying home, this does not address those women, who still feel the need/desire to do more.
I do agree with pursuing more for selfish reason like working so you can simply go on fancy trips is wrong…
but I don’t have an issue with someone who wants to further their career or education because they desire that type of stimulation
The thread is about women who feel they need “intellectual stimulation” beyond staying home and raising kids.
The argument the original poster brings forth is that staying home is what Hashem wants and that is all they need…here is the quote;
“Isn’t that the way Hashem ultimately wanted it? So why do women feel the need to leave their house?”
My counter argument is simple. If this is what Hashem wants, why would some women not feel fulfilled by simply stating home? Why crave additional intellectual stimulation…Perhaps Hashem gave them this “itch” because in those cases he wants those women to do more???
Why can’t that argument work as well…It is very tricky when one states it’s this way because this is what Hashem desires….
“Or Full tuition.”
I often wonder how many kids in my childrens classes actually pay full tuition…Sometimes I wonder if I’m subsidising other children, becasue I pay the full amount….And I don’t live the “high” life with a dual income not have a fancy house/cars…when you p[ay the full amount there is little left over
My question is if Hashem only wanted women to stay home, then why would he give them the gift of a “brain” that needs to be stimulated and challenged?
If staying home is what you want, great. But if you need to pursue more, then there is no shame in that either….
in the fast paced world of shidduch dating, where most people decide in the car to the date, if the other person is right for them…It seems like 4 dates is pretty long….that being said I feel flowers to the “family” would be a good idea…
PS
“Apushatayid, The only reason why the Chofetz Chaim spent an hour or so at his wife’s store, was to make sure that all the weights and measures were correct”
That is still called working….
Queen Bee, I agree 100%
Women should stay home….as long as men get jobs and support their families…
Toi, sometimes people have no choice.
They are a cult of hate, nothing more and nothing less.
Why not talk to Hashem and tell him you can’t remember all the sins you may have committed, but you are truly sorry and working hard to improve…
from Health …”but there is nothing wrong with them yelling and screaming.”
so if someone doesn’t agree with something you are doing it is ok to scream and at your kids?
and like someone said already, the fact that you ar on the internet according to Charedi in Israel you are very much Modern….
If you don’t get support, then how do you pay your bills/tuition etc. ?
If you asked me, they should be expelled from the country or at least arrested and put in Jail…what kind of ortho Jews attack innocent children on their way to a RELEGIOUS all girls school?
Having money certainly helps, but if you want to learn then you will do it no matter what. If you need to earn money nothing is stopping you from doing both.
600 Kilo Bear…calling someone suicidal is sick, even as a joke.
Mods, I thought it’s against CR rules to post personal attacks?
“Ferd” made that sick joke in the op.
Kilo bear said he does not agree with it.</strong.
My wife does her nails, sometime I drop her off and pick her up…I can’t recall ever seeing a non Asian working there….That being said she loves the salon and the people that work there are very nice to her…
this year it hit me harder than years pass, maybe because of the 10th anniversary there was more media…
There are some lasting images I will never get out of my head, I feel for those people, and those they left behind. Reliving that day puts things in perspective…..
you cant trust them or any other Arab country…secular or not….not surprised at all…
“Then what can be done when feelings develop as a result of a platonic relationship for a family member?”
with your cousin? yuck
Sometimes there are little words of comfort. The only thing you can say is that HAshem has a plan, we are not privy to it, but we must have emunah… What else can you tell a child who lost a parent a man that lost his wife or patents that lost a child?
I’m also saddened that no one has added to this thread
Gumball I am very disturbed by your post…your missing the point of what it is to be a human and a Jew… your young and I hope you think before you put something in writing in the future.
I am not trying to moderate them nor do I think they should use a different screen name…I think that if they are moderating a particular thread they should not contribute to the “conversation”…A moderator can influence the tone of a thread by deleting posts, thus giving a thread a particular slant…
gotta run Have a good shabbos everyone (it’s getting earlier :))
Am Yisrael Chai
the best Kiruv is being a good example about the beauty of Yidishkite
I don’t mind the Moderators, However I feel that they should moderate and not contribute to the threads they are moderating…seems like an unfair bias
As someone already stated nothing happens by chance. Hashem put you in this situation for a reason…go for it
It is also easy to win a debate in your mind, when you only look at one argument and ignore or cast aside supporting arguments from the other side…
There is no point quoting prominent Ravs both past and present who support the Medina, since those against it will discredited them for not being “orthodox” and compromising on halacha…
Can I name names Yes, Can I list prominent Yeshivas that have strong Hesder programs combining Learning with army service, a love of the land and Medina, sure…but what is the point….
Getting a college degree is not “easy”…
Momma…just some feedback on some of his posts…nothing too deep…Also questions regarding his speeking tours. Apparently he is friends with rabbi Wallerstein, they have both made references to one another several times. it’s nice to see two Ravs from different orthodox streams respect on another…we all should take a lesson from that.
For BT’s I would start at Aish Ha Torah…
They are perfect for BT’s and have advance learning for Smicha too…look them up
mommamia22…I have sent him emails and he responds very quickly…short but to the point…You should Sign up for his emails…
I was also referring to the pictures of Palestinians celebrating the attack by handing out sweets and how the current US administration has forgotten this….
Moderator-80…what’s your thoughts on the Header Program? Clearly not all Zionist are as you describe…Or are all Religious Zionist just misguided?
While I understand there are Atheist Zionist, there are many who take their Judaism very serious…There are several prominent Yeshivas that combine learning and Military service with a love of the Medina. It may not be perfect, but what community is?
When I got married I took the responsibility to go out and get a job to support our family…I did not ask my Bride to be if her father was going to support us…
Feeding my family, paying their tuition and putting a roof over our heads is my responsibility, not my in-laws…
Marriage is not a Business arrangement
Women should have a stronger say and have an equal stake on who they choose ( be it a full time kollel guy, worker, or mix of both), they should feel like cattle passing potential buyers at an auction….
make that 3 thumbs up 🙂
What shocks me is how quicly the world seems to have forgotten….
Queen Bee…often our mind and heart aren’t on the same page. There is always internal struggle. Thats what it is to be a human. The fact that even though you don’t Daven now, but want to is HUGE…It’s takes a lot to look at oneself and want to try to change things…Even if you don’t change anything right now, but think about changing is a great accomplishment…The fact that you are struggling with Emunah is good, To clarify, I’d rather struggle, then totally let it slip away…
I would check out Rabbi Lazer Brody website, He deals a lot with struggling with Emunah and has some wonderful advise.
I would start slowly, start in the language you are comfortable with and talk to HAshem. Tell him what you are feeling and going through…he wants to hear from you more than you realize.