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“please, and have a little respect for our rabbonim”
I could never respect anyone who protects molesters and not children. I will never respect anyone who strong arms me into not reporting abuse to the authorities…NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!!
msseeker, you can choose not to believe the stories, but there is a big problem, it is more wide spread then you know and there is a huge conspiracy of silence.
I’m trying to understand something. If it’s true that “for the most part molesters are protected, hidden and swept under the rug”, then how can we really know just how widespread and common this issue is?
Becasue brave victims have stepped forward and told their stories…and more and more victims are doing the same…They also state that those who molested them are still in a teaching position..
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Just because someone has long peyos a white flowing beard and the whitest of shirts doesn’t make them a tazdick. There are people who look like this that do horrendous things to children and they are protected….Yes, there are some people doing something about it, but for the most part Molesters are protected, hidden and swept under the rug.
No Child should ever be left alone with a teacher/principle etc. regardless of how long their beard or white their shirt is.
If a teacher has to speak to my child. The door must remain fully open and the “Rabbi’s” secretary must be present in the meeting.
There is never a reason for a “teacher” to meet privately with a young student. If you have something to say, call me and speak to me and my child together.
Teach your children to know what is and isn’t an appropriate touch
Teach your children not to trust people just because the look “religious”
Teach your kids to punch and kick and get out of there…
Call the cops ASAP
Shun the molesters and those who protect them
There are molesters still teaching children, your child can be the next victim…why aren’t more people stepping up and being more vocal about this….
“Aries, are you sure that Chassidishe yungerman understood what molested means? For all I know he thought it means chapping petch! The story makes no sense otherwise.”
and here ladies and gentleman is the problem!!!!
They molesters are being protected, abuse is swept under the rug if you don’t believe this happens; The I have a great bridge to sell you.
If there are known molesters that have been protected by the “community”, then those people who covered it up should be shamed as well.
And I don’t care what people say the first call is to the police, Rabbi’s do not make the law nor are they allowed to prevent people from calling the authorities, last time I checked this was called obstruction of justice…a punishable offence under the law.
If all the victims of sexual abuse in the frum community were to step forward, we would be shocked by the amount of people speaking up…
We would also be in further shock to find out who knew what, who swept what under the rug and worst of all where these abusers are STILL employed….
Believe what you want, but there is a problem and we need our leaders to be more vocal about it.
There are already several public cases where convicted abusers have been sentenced to prison and yet some of our “leaders” make excuses for them calling them great people who have been framed by an antiemetic court.
with leadership like this we are doomed to fail our children once again
It’s time we stand up for the rights of children…Abuse is no longer our dirty little secret. We need to show our leaders who sweep abuse under the rug that we will not stand for it.
Just like some groups embarrass and humiliate men who don’t give a GET, the same public displays and protest should be done against those convicted molesters who hide and are protected…or even worse still allowed to teach our children…which many have.
I pray people protest outside the schools where some of these molesters are allowed to continue teaching our children, as they protest religious girls on their way to school (as they do in Israel)…Or as vocal about sexual abuse as they age about Iphones and the internet….
And stop maiing excuses about it like it’s vengful children going after their parents, etc…
“I guarantee the Rambam did not learn American history.”
that would be interesting if he did 🙂
maybe the women are fat and not pregnant….Gefen why are you spending so much time looking….
it’s not big, but there is a nice community….
The RAMBAM didn’t have a problem with it…
“NK are yiden too and no one can dare deny that”
if you say so, but i’m not 100% convinced they are
Rabbi Wallerstein often talks about his love of the game of hockey and how he loves to play it….someone should ask him his thoughts…
“we are not allowed to establish a jewish state in galus”.
not everyone holds by this statement..
it’s only assur of you are a Yankees fan…
If you are asking the question then u should call the police….your first call is to the police, then your RAV, not the other way around….lets stop trying to cover things up….
tahini….”Mother of a frum officer in the IDF tired of defending my son as someone “off the derech”.
I would say that your son is very much on the Derech and you should be extremely proud of him and all those who serve in the IDF…
“Obviously being at a pro-Palestinian rally was more important than shabbos”
NK often shows up at pro Palestinian rallies on shabbos….maybe there is an eruv so they can carry their anti Jewish signs?
Maybe the Arabs know how to make a good chulent?
not all zionist are “frei” Jews….
“when you move outside NY (especially down south)”
There are some very nice orthodox communities “Down South” by the way
I’m a trophy Husband
“mike: how do you know for a fact some do?”
Becasue there is a poster who is a Bnai Noah and Imagine there are many people who read but don’t post…Im sure if the MODS were to look at some of our IP addresses they will be surprised that they are from places that have little to no Jews…Plus this site does appear on goolge searches…
“my DH just told me the JNF gives money to the Palestinians :/”
I would have your “DH” check his facts…that is so worng.
This is an open form, anyone can come here and read threads, including non-Jews…Which I know for a fact some do….horrible thread to be allowed…MODS please do your Job and close this down.
There is a bias on this site…MO bashing seems to get past the MODs no problem.
I do not daven at a Chabad house, but I am friendly with the Rabbi and have gone to his house for Shabbos meals, etc.
I do get weekly emails from him and when refereeing to the Rebbe it always states “of Blessed Memory”….
I am comfortable with that.
Israel needs to execute terrorist, not keep them healthy and well fed in prison
Shalit was captive for 1935 days…1+9+3+5=18 chai….HAshem’s “fingerprints” are all over GIlad’S freedom
I agree terrorist should be given the death penalty….
Whets matters is a Jew is free..hopefully when Moshiach comes we may learn why the price of Gilads freedom was so high…
Until now lets focus on Gilad being free
And if you don’t think Hashem planned it this way, then why after 5 years was he released during a week it is a Mitzvah to be happy? That is no coincidence
Toi, u have got to be kidding me, where do you get this stuff?
He is being freed because millions of Jews have been praying for his release and HAshem listened.
well done
Or punctuation…. 🙂
Ignorance of the law is not bliss…
Toi,…never mind…So close after Yom Kippur I’m not getting into it with you.
The comparison was disgusting and never should have been left through
Everything in this world can be used for good or bad…teach your kids early how to use things for the good
Toi, your comments while amusing, never seem to have any clear statistical evidence….
“he’s a Jew after a year of courses in how to do tikkun olam and the importance of eco-kashrus.”
Don’t know much about conservative, reform reconstructionist….but I don’t think you are far off….
Unfortunately there are some Orthodox Jews who have gone OTD and sadly done the same….This is in despite of years of Yeshiva Education and not being exposed to TV Movies etc…
51. Toi
What I do take offence to is your derogatory tone. Before commenting next time please reread what someone wrote.