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I’ve also never heard of this coat. Seems like a good idea, though, for people who wear hats.
MiddlePathParticipanttaking a break, I really think the best way to let him know that is by telling him straight out, but politely of course, that you wish to have a strictly in-school and only school-related, relationship.
About another issue, I personally feel that it is not nice to give anyone the cold shoulder for a compliment, Jew or non-Jew. There are other ways to give the message to “back off” that are more polite. Giving the cold shoulder can be viewed as rude, and can possibly lead to a chillul hashem.
And I happen to think Avigail is a very pretty name.
August 28, 2011 5:43 am at 5:43 am in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819690MiddlePathParticipantThank you WIY. I don’t know if I would be comfortable submitting this to a magazine or newspaper.
mexipal, I agree that it would be unfair to accuse the family of the murderer for being irresponsible, because we can’t assume they knew he was capable of such an act.
MiddlePathParticipantQueen Bee, I totally agree. And a girl with a southern accent is simply adorable.
MiddlePathParticipantGood to hear from you, photogenic! Hopefully the mods will figure out a way to get it done soon.
I feel bad for you all on the east coast for all the crazy weather you are going through. Stay safe!
August 26, 2011 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm in reply to: There is an issue that really bothers me…. #802798MiddlePathParticipantI would consider it a plus if the girl had a British, Australian, or Southern accent. I love those. I’m not so into the New York accent, to be honest.
MiddlePathParticipantAll of Tehillim were written as songs, anyway, by Dovid Hamelech. Therefore, I would say it would make sense to compose songs from Tehillim.
MiddlePathParticipantWIY, I don’t wish to argue with you about this, but not everyone considers this overstepping boundaries. So, it is quite possible that this boy is still a good, frum yeshiva boy, and even a “ben torah”, whose ideas of overstepping boundaries may be a bit different from mine or yours. I think this is what Mr. Taxman meant when he said we shouldn’t judge or label others.
MiddlePathParticipantHave a good shabbos, photogenic. Hope you saw my reply. Hopefully we’ll figure out a way to be in contact.
MiddlePathParticipantI would NOT advise giving him the cold shoulder. I think that is rude. You can politely tell him you want to keep your relationship with him strictly in school and only to school-related things, and that you would not want to go further than that. If he is a normal, nice guy, he will respect your choice.
MiddlePathParticipantI think most girls wouldn’t give their phone numbers to a guy just because he complimented their names, unless they’re desperate. He would have to do much more than that. I’ve done my share of getting girls’ numbers when I was a teen, and I had to do more than that.
August 26, 2011 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819686MiddlePathParticipant600, I appreciate you looking out for me, but changing my surname is something I really would not want to do. And I am hoping to move to somewhere else once I’m married. I don’t know about Israel, but definitely to another city.
Again, thank you all for your wonderful brachos!
MiddlePathParticipantGoq, I agree with you, but unfortunately, I can’t really see anyone beating the Packers this year, especially if they stay healthy.
MiddlePathParticipantI don’t want to put you through all the trouble of racing to post first! If you really want to do it, I’ll let you post first every Friday. I’ll wait for it.
MiddlePathParticipantThank him for the compliment.
It seems that he may be interested in you, so just be aware of that for the future. If you are not interested in him, try keeping your distance, and if he comes onto you again, you can politely tell him you aren’t interested.
MiddlePathParticipantadorable, have a great shabbos. I see you beat me this time…shucks! Maybe next week. 🙂
MiddlePathParticipantthe patriot- First of all, do you have an amplifier? If not, you’ll need to buy one, and they go for at least 50 dollars. Just something to think about.
Now, in terms of the actual guitar, for 100 dollars, your options are a bit limited. There are a few brands that make entry level models that are decent, such as Ibanez, Epiphone, and Fender. They can be anywhere between 100 and 200 dollars new, so you might find a used one for less than 100.
Another option would be to go to your local Guitar Center or Sam Ash and see what they have on clearance. Sometimes, they’ll have something marked down a ton, and you can save so much money that way. You may even find a 300 to 400 dollar guitar for around 100 bucks. Also, Guitar Center has their own brand guitar called Laguna, and they’re actually great quality, and are pretty inexpensive.
Bottom line, here’s some brands you should consider if you find them cheap: Ibanez, Epiphone, Fender, Laguna, Dean, Gibson (if possible), Schecter.
Good luck!
August 25, 2011 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm in reply to: Who is your favorite member, responding to threads? #807045MiddlePathParticipantI find myself looking forward to aries’ posts. I also really enjoy reading posts from people who have given me help and encouragement (adorable, Goq, bomb, bpt, and many others), or have interesting or funny things to say (ZK, Popa, Wolf, and many others). I do try to value everyone’s opinion and input.
August 25, 2011 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819682MiddlePathParticipantThanks, mustang. I actually have helped out kids that were struggling with many issues before, but I’ve never thought about doing it on a “professional” level. Maybe I should…Thanks for your advice!
MiddlePathParticipantPerhaps there is a bus or a train? Or maybe you can find a ride back?
I’ve spent shabbos in Monsey a few times, and they were all wonderful experiences. And as yummy and adorable said, there are other places in New York, and even the country, besides Brooklyn.
Funny story- I once told someone from Flatbush that I live in such and such city (to remain nameless), and he asked, “Is that a suburb of Toronto?” And the city is in midwestern U.S.
I’m not trying to put down anyone, this was just a funny story with one person. I’m sure many people from Flatbush are very knowledgeable in geography.
MiddlePathParticipantrfs, what you consider to be problem, I really don’t see as a problem. I think it’s great to have a really good picture of yourself.
ootiny, I personally would be intimidated dating an extremely pretty girl. I like plain and ordinary…but attractive, of course.
MiddlePathParticipantadorable, it was so thoughtful of you to bring back this thread!
Feif, I hope you are doing better!
August 25, 2011 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819680MiddlePathParticipantrfs, I may know you, you may know me, but so what? I have nothing to hide.
adorable, yes, I can use it to help others, but I don’t know how I would really get it out there, and I don’t know if any Jewish magazine would publish such a story. Also, I don’t know if I want to have my story out there like that.
MiddlePathParticipantbomb, I admire you for your courage, and like others here, I believe you did the right thing. Every situation is different, so SB’s friend may or may not use your method, but just seeing how others deal with these kinds of things give others strength and ideas of how to cope better.
MiddlePathParticipantHacham, that is not always true. I have worn a colored button down shirt and slacks for a first date. I have also worn a suit. It depends on where we were going.
MiddlePathParticipantOP, I agree with many of the posters here that we don’t really know the impact or lack of impact had on your classmates, since that is something not always shown on the surface. I personally have certain views on the topic of communication between boys and girls that aren’t quite in line with some people’s views here, but that doesn’t change the fact that a school rule was broken. But, I do think that in general, a Principal or Rabbi in a school should really think carefully before making a decision that can possible change a student’s life, because they may be held responsible in heaven for their decision.
Concerning something else brought up here, I don’t think going to an MO school will solve anything. If anything, it’ll make things worse, both for this student, and fellow classmates. I PERSONALLY know of so many kids from more religious schools who were expelled, went to more modern schools, and ended in far worse trouble, and caused other classmates to stumble, eventually giving the class, and even the entire school, a bad name.
I think MO schools should NOT accept students who were expelled from more religious schools. There are schools specially made for students like that in most large cities.
But of course, my opinion on this is simply based on what I saw. So if people disagree with me, that is perfectly fine, because they may have seen things work out differently, and I understand that.
May you find your path back to G-d quickly and easily.
MiddlePathParticipantHey, photogenic! So I was thinking that yossi’s idea of contacting YWN and requesting an email exchange might be a good way of doing this. What do you think?
Also, no pressure, but all of us here would love for you to post more often! We try to value and appreciate everyone’s opinions, so don’t feel bad speaking your mind about anything!
MiddlePathParticipant“I just want to know if I’m dating a normal type of girl and if she knows what the done thing is???”
MPC, to answer the first question, based on the information you gave about her, she sounds like a wonderful girl, and perfectly normal. To answer the second question, I would like to ask you a question: Why in the world does that matter? Who cares if she knows what “the done thing” is? I once went out with a girl from a very small community (I mean REALLY small), and after walking around a mall and sitting at a food court, she and her mom invited me for dinner to their house! Is that “normally done”? Doubtful. (This was a first date.) But guess what: I had a wonderful time, she was a wonderful person, and we went out a few more times. It didn’t work out at the end for other reasons.
So what I’m saying is, don’t make things that are normally or not-normally done into a huge deal, because it’s not important at all. What’s important is the PERSON you are dating.
August 25, 2011 6:51 am at 6:51 am in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819676MiddlePathParticipantOk, I have now read all your posts more carefully, and the first thing I did after reading them was smile! I am so happy my story has inspired many of you, and I really want to humbly thank everyone for your wonderful brachos! I truly don’t think I deserve even half of the compliments given, but I will continue to work on myself, and hopefully someday I will be on the level to deserve such compliments.
I wasn’t sure if I should post my story, but seeing how it really did inspire many people, I am so happy I did. It also feels good to talk about it, since I barely discussed these things with anyone, so this was the perfect way to bring it out.
I also see that aries’ post here was deleted for whatever reason, and I’m a little sad about that. Aries, if possible, I would love to see what you have written, since so much of what you say gives me better understanding of things and really connects with me.
And just to be clear about the Rabbis that handled this issue, I feel that they handled my father very well. I said nothing about how they handled the rest of my family, since I didn’t really want to discuss it, but you can probably guess that all from my story. I hope this resolves any issue of “Rabbi bashing” or “Rabbi glorifying” in the future in reference to my personal story.
The main point of my story here was simply to show people what I’ve gone through, and to inspire people that can learn from it. And since I did that, I am very happy. Thank you all so much!!!
With respect and admiration,
MiddlePath
MiddlePathParticipantPhotogenic, just saw your response, I’m happy you’re ok, and I would love to contact you somehow. Can’t post any further right now, hopefully tonight. Good to hear from you!
August 24, 2011 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819672MiddlePathParticipantJust wanted to thank everyone for your support and responses. I don’t have time right now to post further, but hopefully tonight I will. Thanks so much.
MiddlePathParticipantThanks, aries, for your wonderful post! I see exactly what you are saying. That the difference is not in our actions, but rather, it is in our focus. Our focus should be about serving G-d in a way that emulates Him, and not about the reward we may get as a result.
And what you do for your clients is unbelievably admirable.
MiddlePathParticipanthaifagirl, whether or not other people here appreciate your grammatical input, I think it is nice to have someone here that sees the importance of it. I would not mind at all if you corrected me on my grammar, and I view it as a privilege to have you here offering your grammatical help to those who need it. If others don’t want to be corrected, fine. But feel free to correct me when necessary, and I will appreciate it.
MiddlePathParticipantyitayningwut- True. Which is why it is such a strong emotion.
And by the way, thank you so much for all your input into this thread! Your insights and knowledge are greatly appreciated, so keep it coming! I am sorry I didn’t thank you until now. Thank you to LMA as well!
tomim tihye- My pleasure, but it was really the two posters I mentioned above that made wonderful contributions to this thread.
MiddlePathParticipantI think the uniform of a ben torah should be a mode of dress befitting one who considers himself part of the nation of G-d. For some, that means wearing a white button-down shirt, black pants, and a black hat. For others, that means wearing a green polo shirt, jeans, and a kippah. It is different for different people. The main thing is to realize that people interpret “proper dress code” differently, and to not look down on others for dressing differently.
MiddlePathParticipantWelcome!
MiddlePathParticipantminyan gal, thank you for such a wonderful post. I think people need to focus on listening, and not just “hearing”.
aries, it is great that you do that. By the way, is it possible for you to take a look at the “Question about being self-centered” thread? I would love your input and ideas about that topic!
MiddlePathParticipantThank you, adorable.
I’m sad that aries hasn’t yet graced us with her wisdom in this thread yet.
MiddlePathParticipantMod 80, I see the Brooklyn- Jerusalem thread was closed, so I’ll post here. It was NOT yossi2468 who berated me, it was someone else. I think the thread it was on is closed now, anyway. And it doesn’t matter, I forgive the person who did it. There were good intentions in what was said, even if it could have been said in a nicer way.
MiddlePathParticipantI am fairly certain that love is one of our strongest emotions.
MiddlePathParticipantadorable, I took over your job this week. Have a wonderful and restful shabbos, everyone.
MiddlePathParticipantIr, in response to your post which responded to my post (I hope that isn’t too confusing), I think you are right. There is no reason for you to consider your ex-fiance’s feelings about this. I only said what I said because that’s what I would have done. If I were in a such a situation, I think I would be concerned about my ex-fiance’s feelings. But that would be wrong. I would have no reason to. This is somewhat related to the thread I started a little while ago. It’s something I have to work on. Good for you!
MiddlePathParticipantLMA, thank you for a agreeing with me, and I agree with you, too. I agree that every person, of no matter what religion or culture, is born with a natural instinct to desire feeling good, happy, and fulfilled, and in almost every society (with exceptions, of course), those “goals” are generally brought about by being a good person.
I also think that everyone also has built-in emotions and characteristics, such as love, grief, concern, fear, desire, and many more. All can be used positively, but all can also be used negatively. It is up to us to choose to use them positively. G-d gave us the Torah and the mitzvos as a “guide” for us that shows how to use all of our emotions and characteristics in a positive way.
MiddlePathParticipantAs many here have said, girls are extremely caring and sensitive to their friends and their feelings. It would be imperative to first see if both this girl and your ex-fiance are not too weary about such a suggestion (through someone else), and only then to bring yourself into the picture and talk directly. It is so important to take into consideration any feelings that may be hurt along the way, so move forward with extreme care. I hope it works out!
MiddlePathParticipantLMA, very nice insight.
kol daveed, I happen to agree with you. I don’t think doing good without having G-d involved is necessarily worth nothing. For example, it is possible that an effect of doing such good is that a beneficiary may become closer to G-d, even though the giver did not have G-d in mind, and that would be worth something.
oomis, wonderful post, and very clearly put. But think about this: Wouldn’t you agree that we do have some mitzvos that ANYONE, regardless of their faith, can do because they simply make sense? Like honoring your parents, visiting the sick, etc.? These types of mitzvos make sense to us, too, even if we “only” do them because G-d said we should. But imagine for second, G-d forbid, that we were not Jewish..would we not honor our parents and visit the sick? All I am saying is that I think there are mitzvos that make moral sense, and miztvos that may not, but of course, we should treat them with no difference. I do agree with your post, though.
80, I understand what you are saying. But see what I just said to oomis.
And thank you all for your ideas and opinions! This turned out to be a great thread.
MiddlePathParticipantHappy birthday, Goq! And amen to adorable’s wonderful bracha.
MiddlePathParticipantalways- You are right, I should not have assumed anything. I will try to work on my middos so that this won’t happen again. Yossi2468, I am sorry for accusing you of being someone else. Please forgive me.
adorable- Thank you for supporting me, but if I did embarrass anyone, then I was wrong, and I am sorry.
MiddlePathParticipantmw13, Thanks for the great post! A lot of things to think about. I really enjoy seeing how different people view such concepts.
But…Aries, where are you?!
MiddlePathParticipantAfter thinking about this a bit more, I realized that there is also a major difference between the following:
I am doing a good deed because G-d said so.
I am doing a good deed because I love G-d, and want to show my love by following His commands.
We should strive to be in the latter group. And I don’t think teaching our children the first method would be too beneficial. What do you all think of this distinction?
MiddlePathParticipantI have this strange feeling that yossi2468 is mosherose..just with a bit better grammar.
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