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Glad your’e keeping busy, adorable. And don’t feel the need to wake up early tomorrow morning to post first on the “good shabbos” thread. Don’t worry, I’ll let you do it first.
MiddlePathParticipantHope to put up more of my songs soon. Have a listen if you haven’t already, and spread the music!
MiddlePathParticipantbabygoose, thanks for the feedback!
Goq, no problem, listen to it at your convenience.
MiddlePathParticipantGoq, I was wondering about adorable, too. Hope she’s ok. Also, haven’t seen photogenic around either. And I hope haifagirl comes back soon.
September 1, 2011 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819745MiddlePathParticipantforthebest, no need to be sorry! 🙂 I’m happy this thread turned out so helpful. Let’s keep it going!
MiddlePathParticipantmiritchka- Thanks! And yes, I just put up a third one, it should be there…maybe you have to click on my profile to see it.
Queen Bee- Thanks, and thanks for the idea to do this. 🙂
happiest- Hope you enjoy them, and no, I don’t know her from before the CR.
workinonit- I used a digital drumpad for the beats. Sounds similar to real drums, but not exactly the same.
MiddlePathParticipantChein, I may be wrong, but that seems to have little to do with what RedNails was referring to.
Where I live, (very much “out of town”), most people don’t stare down other people. It is common to have people dressing differently from each other, so it’s not at all a big deal. But from what you’ve described, RedNails, it seems to be a bit of a problem in your areas. Or, maybe it’s just a small percentage..maybe most people don’t do that.
And welcome back, RedNails!
MiddlePathParticipantGoq, what a great, mature guy you are for saying that to aries! Amen to aries’ bracha for you.
MiddlePathParticipantThe last girl I dated, I met socially. And the main reason I wanted to date her was because of her wonderful personally, not because of her physical attractiveness. So it is wrong to say something across the board when it works for some people. But, in the OP’s brother’s case, it just seems to be for the fun of it without long-term thoughts in mind, which will either fizzle out or become more of a problem, which can be solved through different ways, depending on the situation.
September 1, 2011 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm in reply to: can i date a girl without Shadchan????????/ #808623MiddlePathParticipantI’ve also learned Kiddushin, and I don’t remember it anywhere saying that. Can you tell me where it says that?
And I’ve dated girls without a 3rd party involved, and I actually am more comfortable that way.
September 1, 2011 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819743MiddlePathParticipantforthebest, thank you, and I’m so happy this thread helped you talk about this openly! I hope we can all support each other here, and give each other help and encouragement.
MiddlePathParticipantObaminator, to a guy, I would either smile or give a nod to. To a girl, it would most probably be a smile, because giving a nod is more of a guy thing.
MiddlePathParticipantTo be completely honest, if I were walking down the street and a Jewish girl was approaching, I would stay on the same side of the street and when we were passing, I may give a quick glance and a smile. This has NO connotation that I’m interested in her, it is simply acknowledging another Jew, and greeting them with a smile. I personally feel there is nothing wrong with what I do. If other people feel they are on a higher level by avoiding the girl, good for them. I respect that. But I feel that I am doing what is right for me. For other people, it may not be ideal, and that’s fine.
September 1, 2011 12:39 am at 12:39 am in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819739MiddlePathParticipantforthebest, thanks for the question. If I were to hear this from a girl I was dating, and the girl seems to be strong in her faith and has a positive attitude even with everything she’s gone through, I would be impressed, amazed, and feel incredibly lucky to be dating someone like that. Not only would I “accept” it, I would consider it a huge bonus. It means she has the ability to see everything positively, and use the tragedies in her life to make herself an even better person. And, I would be able to relate to her better than other people because of my own situation.
So, if you are dating someone seriously, and it is clear that he respects you, don’t be ashamed or scared to tell him. In all probability, he will respect you even more for it. He will see how lucky he is to potentially be marrying such an amazing girl.
I’m so happy you were able to open up to us here. Hopefully, we can all help each other, and may you find your match soon!
August 31, 2011 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819736MiddlePathParticipantQueen Bee, glad you liked it! 🙂 I have many more songs, too. Maybe I’ll put them up. A lot of people don’t really like my style, though. It is quite different, to be honest. But thanks!
MiddlePathParticipantI think mustang’s idea is interesting.
Climbing mountains, just know that these men definitely do not intend to make you feel that way. They are simply doing what they believe to be a good thing. Should they consider that by doing so, they are making you feel bad? Perhaps. But that is their problem, not yours.
And as Queen Bee said, “There is being frum, but there is also having manners”, and I think having manners means having derech eretz. And derech eretz is kadma latorah.
MiddlePathParticipantCool, I see my link was let through! Thanks, mods! Feel free to check out my music, everyone.
August 31, 2011 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819734MiddlePathParticipantClimbing mountains- I hope this thread has given you some inspiration. We see that this affects more people than we think. I hope we can all help each other out here, and I’m glad you had the courage to post here. I hope all of us can post questions we may have for each other about how to deal with certain things, and we may be able to get a better understanding and a better appreciation for life.
moi aussi, thank you, and welcome! Welcome to forthebest as well! And Climbing mountains, if you are also new, welcome to you too!
August 31, 2011 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819732MiddlePathParticipanthappiest, I’m so glad I’m able to help, and I think you are an amazing role model, as well!
forthebest, I’m so sorry to hear that you went through this, but I’m happy my thread was able to help you find the courage to bring it up here with us. Together, (along with happiest) we can help each other out, offer encouragement and discuss things that may be bothering us. I think what aries said to you is something you should take to heart, and realize it is not at all your fault. Hopefully, you’ll be able to internalize this and be able to move on. I know it’s easier said than done, but we should try our best. And know that we are always here for you, and that I (and happiest, too) would love to help out in any way we can.
MiddlePathParticipantQueen Bee, thanks, and I would actually love for people here to be able to listen to my music! I don’t know if the mods will let this through, but here’s a link to one of my songs:
http://soundcloud.com/middlepath-cr/instrumental-song-1
I’ve made my identity completely anonymous.
Hope it works.
MiddlePathParticipantyungerman, I’m sorry, but my class didn’t really get into specific rare or unique paintings, but rather it was mostly a history of art technique, art movements, and general art appreciation. So I can’t really answer those questions. But my guess would be that those paintings were important in representing their movement, or unique in their exclusivity.
It must have been an amazing experience going to those fine art galleries. I would love to go sometime.
MiddlePathParticipantYes. An unbelievable amount. During those times, it was so much more difficult to create a realistic and three dimensional painting. They had to use real creativity and skill to complete any painting, because there was a long, tedious process involved. It would take too long to go through the whole process, but just for a short overview, they first had to project the object, scene, or people they were going to paint onto a canvas which took great care and skill using the tools of their time. Then, they had to create outlines of the focal points and backdrops using those projections. Then, they had to mix colors just right to give the impression of depth, space, and emotion, besides trying to duplicate the exact colors of whatever they were painting. All this took an incredible amount of time and patience.
Bottom line, there is true wisdom in this. Sorry if I was a bit lengthy in my response. I took a class in Art and Design History recently, so all this is still fresh in my mind.
MiddlePathParticipantUsing solar panels will definitely save you money in the long run. If you really want to save money, you can actually install them yourself. It’s not terribly difficult. There are many videos on Youtube that demonstrate how to install solar panels yourself. Before anything though, make sure that you have a large enough area on your roof unblocked by trees and buildings where lots of sunlight falls through out the day.
MiddlePathParticipantbomb, what a well-written, informative, and absolutely true essay you’ve got here. Many people tend to focus on the negative aspects of the internet without trying to focus on what’s positive and amazing about it. I am one of those people who had to fill a void in my real life with something that would let me feel accepted, valued, and respected, and the internet has helped me with that quite a lot. I am a musician, and in the real world, I would definitely be unnoticed, but online, I have been able to reach over 5,000 people with my music. That’s just one area where I feel I truly made myself a name. And of course, the fact that Iv’e been able to discuss my personal story on this forum, but not so openly in real life tells you that it really does amazing things for us. Everything you’ve written here I can relate to, and agree with. Thanks for such a great article.
MiddlePathParticipantminyan gal, thank you for sharing that with us. It must have been so hard for you when she passed away, especially after hearing what a wonderful person she was. May the lessons she taught you guide you throughout your life.
August 31, 2011 4:03 am at 4:03 am in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819723MiddlePathParticipantAs always, I think aries’ advice is terrific. And happiest, if there is anything else you would like to know or just talk about with me, I am happy to discuss it with you. If it’s something I really am uncomfortable talking about, I will let you know, but otherwise, assume I am happy to do it.
always runs, I see it more as an opportunity for her than an obligation. Whatever she decides to do, we should show support, love, and care. (Things I wish I had.)
MiddlePathParticipantSometimes, it is better to be realistic, and save yourself from the possibility of constant stress and worry, than to rely on dreams, and realize too late that you are miserable.
MiddlePathParticipantworkinonit, from your post, I am guessing a cause of your happiness problem is due to things in your life that are troubling you, and it is difficult to let go of them. And of course, that is understandable. And many times, things we deal with have a bad habit of staying with us for a long time, and we just can’t shake them. So instead, it may be better for us to develop a new way of looking at these issues that can result in seeing them in a positive light. I am going to copy something I wrote in a another thread here, and hopefully it’ll help a little for you:
Many times, things look bad to us, we think there’s no end to our suffering, and we wonder “why me?”. But the truth is, we never know the full picture. Only G-d does. So we may be stuck on a few sharp puzzle pieces at the moment, but after a while, we see how the pieces fit together to create a beautiful scenic view. G-d gives us these challenges because He knows we, and not others, can deal with them, rise above them, and even become great because of them. We should consider ourselves lucky that G-d is giving us the opportunity early in our lives to show our loyalty to Him, to overcome obstacles, adversity, and evil. It is a path straight to G-d’s throne. Not everyone has that opportunity. Not everyone is given the chance to show loyalty to G-d so openly, so early in their lives, and so often. If we realize all this, then we can not only make it through the challenges we face, but even thrive on them. Be glad that we have such an amazing opportunity in our hands. That we are the lucky few that G-d chose to demonstrate to the Jewish nation, and to the world, how to live by, accept, and thrive on, G-d’s command. That we were chosen because we have something special in us, and G-d knows this, and He is giving us a way of using that special power so openly, it is almost as if He is talking to us, saying “Look at your potential! Here, I will now give an opportunity to reach that potential, to show others how to live!”
Hopefully, this will give you a new insight to dealing with things that are troubling you, and help you let go of them and enjoy life more fully.
MiddlePathParticipantEveryone’s advice here is right on the money. The only thing, small though it seems, that I would add, is actually something you yourself can do that might help. It is simply just showing joy and happiness about Judaism when you are with your sibling. Showing positive emotions in connection with Judaism can have a great effect on those who see it.
MiddlePathParticipantbomb, as everyone here has said, it is worth giving it a try. You might see you are perfect for the job and really can connect with these people. Your past only makes you stronger and more capable, so you might find yourself really making a huge impact, larger than others trying to help but may not have the personal history to go with it. Whatever G-d gives us, whether we see it as good or bad, is for a purpose, and can be used beneficially. This therefore might be the right thing to do, by using what you have to benefit others. Wishing you all the best!
August 30, 2011 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819718MiddlePathParticipantbomb, I’m wondering the same thing s2021 asked.
MiddlePathParticipantaries, I always look forward to and appreciate your comments. I feel that it is all my fault, because it was all on the topic related to my situation, and I’m so sorry I caused you any frustration. Please forgive me. We all gain so much from everything you write. I know I do.
August 30, 2011 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819714MiddlePathParticipanthappiest, I hope I was able to help you somewhat with your question. I really don’t feel qualified though to advise you what to do in your situation, but I’d love to help you further in any way I can, so let me know if anything else about this is bothering you!
yid4life, thanks so much, I really appreciate that. I’m so glad I was able to inspire people with this. Chodesh tov to you as well.
August 30, 2011 3:35 am at 3:35 am in reply to: Going out with someone who has a serious past… #803440MiddlePathParticipantI would say their past would be a reason why I WOULD go out with them. It means they have come a long way, and can be much stronger, have their priorities straight, and are more mature. The only thing I would be concerned about is they may possibly be too serious and focused on their spirituality to be able to chill out and have fun anymore, which I have seen happen to a lot of people in that type of situation. But not to everyone.
And Sam is absolutely correct.
MiddlePathParticipantI would much rather know the real reason someone said no to me than a generic, non-personal one. I want to know WHY the person doesn’t think it’ll work. Giving a cliche, non-personal reason doesn’t allow the rejected party to understand exactly what was bothering the other person, and doesn’t allow them to improve in areas they may need improvement in.
And I never went through a shadchan. I’ve always had open communication with the girl herself, which I am so much more comfortable with.
MiddlePathParticipantI found the talking fish to be incredibly creepy. The song was a little too mainstream and repetitive for me, but I thought the video was pretty creative.
Queen Bee, so I’m not the only person here who didn’t know of this before! Phew..I feel much better. 🙂
MiddlePathParticipantShticky Guy, I live in the Midwest. Forgive me for my ignorance of these things.
August 30, 2011 12:17 am at 12:17 am in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819709MiddlePathParticipanthappiest, I will try to answer those questions openly. My father was reported by a few of the victims that were willing to come forward. I don’t know exactly who they told (aside from their parents, I guess), or exactly how it got to the authorities, so I’m sorry I can’t really help with that. Many victims did not admit they were abused at first, but later came out with it, after it was brought to the public. I was fairly young at the time, so I didn’t fully understand and see everything that was going on. After my father was arrested, he was advised to go through heavy therapy to see if he could change. My mother was willing to give him that chance. But he didn’t change, and my parents divorced shorty after. We, the children, were given all sorts of guidelines and rules to follow about how often, where, and when we can see our father. We were told he was never allowed to be in our house again. There were posters put up in every shul about him, warning the members to notify their Rabbi if he was spotted there. Everyone knew about it, but everyone also was very quite about it.
I don’t know if I should be the one to advise you what to do in your situation, but I feel that it is better to get the truth out and deal with the possibility of having little support, but long-term relief, rather than go on with it building up inside you, and hiding it. Again, I am not at all qualified to tell you what to do, but I think that is what I’d do, now that I know I can deal with the shunning and lack of support. Perhaps discuss it with someone you really trust and respect.
Whatever you choose to do, know that I admire and respect you for all you have gone through, and may G-d see to it to relieve you of your pain and replace it with happiness!
MiddlePathParticipantHow about a pair of overalls?
And actually, suspenders can be very fashionable.
August 29, 2011 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819707MiddlePathParticipantonnea, thank you. In my opinion, the best way my family could have been handled better is if we at least saw sympathy, concern, and willingness to help out by members of the community. Even those things, we did not have. It was as if we suddenly became invisible when the story came out. Yes, we could have used help financially. But the main thing I felt we needed was simply CARE by our friends and neighbors. For example, when G-d forbid a friend’s family member dies, it is normal to not know what to say or do for your friend to comfort them. But of course, we at least go to their house during shivah, show how we are in pain with them, and at least say something to try and comfort them. I wish I just could have had that. That would have meant the world to me.
Thank you, s2021.
August 29, 2011 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819703MiddlePathParticipantAbe, thank you, and yes, that’s pretty much what happened.
happiest, I only know a little of your situation (whatever you opened up to us), but I understand that it is a little similar to mine, and that you suffered just as much, if not more, than me. I am truly so happy and thankful to G-d that my story was able to make an impact on your life, and I really hope you rise above every challenge and show everyone, especially yourself, that you have the strength to make the most of what you were given, and that you truly reached your potential. You are one of the lucky people G-d chose to have His glory shine through, and you have an amazing opportunity to show Him you are worthy of that glory. Keep on living, stay positive (however difficult that might be), and show the world, and yourself, how strong, amazing, and special you are!
And I’d be happy to answer your questions!
MiddlePathParticipantGot it. Thanks, 80.
MiddlePathParticipantI know, I’m crazy for asking this, but what is Yalili and what is Pomegranate?
MiddlePathParticipantHealth, while I understand your position, I think taking a break is mature and responsible enough to know how to conduct herself properly in the position she is in. For other people, it may be a cause for concern and detrimental to take such a position, but it seems taking a break is above that, and is doing a fine job. I respect her choice to take the job she has, and I’m sure she is wonderful, and conducts herself professionally, at it.
August 29, 2011 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819699MiddlePathParticipantQueen Bee, I’m so happy my story is helping you! Just internalize what I said in my above post, and hopefully things will begin to get easier. It’s definitely difficult, but it is worth all the hard work. I haven’t really ever thought about writing my story as a novel, but that’s an interesting idea! I’ll think about it. Thanks!
Abe, I haven’t fully cut off contact with him. I still call him every few weeks. I still feel an obligation to do kibbud av, no matter what he is. And I would say I’m on decent terms with him.
August 29, 2011 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819696MiddlePathParticipantayc, thank you. To answer the first question, I would tell kids that are being shunned that many times, things look bad to us, we think there’s no end to our suffering, and we wonder “why me?”. But the truth is, we never know the full picture. Only G-d does. So we may be stuck on a few sharp puzzle pieces at the moment, but after a while, we see how the pieces fit together to create a beautiful scenic view. G-d gives us these challenges because He knows we, and not others, can deal with them, rise above them, and even become great because of them. We should consider ourselves lucky that G-d is giving us the opportunity early in our lives to show our loyalty to Him, to overcome obstacles, adversity, and evil. It is a path straight to G-d’s throne. Not everyone has that opportunity. Not everyone is given the chance to show loyalty to G-d so openly, so early in their lives, and so often. If we realize all this, then we can not only make it through the challenges we face, but even thrive on them. Be glad that we have such an amazing opportunity in our hands. That we are the lucky few that G-d chose to demonstrate to the Jewish nation, and to the world, how to live by, accept, and thrive on, G-d’s command. That we were chosen because we have something special in us, and G-d knows this, and He is giving us a way of using that special power so openly, it is almost as if He is talking to us, saying “Look at your potential! Here, I will now give an opportunity to reach that potential, to show others how to live!”
To answer the second question, I believe it is all about perception and sensitivity. Often, we get so caught up in our own personal lives, that we seem to think that we only need to care for ourselves and just make sure we “make it through” to the other side. But really, we, as Jews, have an inherent responsibility to our fellow Jews. We need to be more perceptive. We need to open our eyes to the situations of others. We need to realize that the best way to make it to G-d’s throne after 120 years is by spreading G-d’s glory to the “less fortunate” people of our nation. We have to learn how to be more sensitive to others’ needs, how to feel others’ pain. If we get to the point where we can feel others’ pain, we would WANT to help them. It would hurt us to see them still suffering. But we can’t see them suffering if we choose to ignore them. If we are shunning them, we are saying “I don’t want to lower myself to even NOTICE that this person is in pain. It will make me less comfortable, or less popular.” That is a terrible attitude. If we truly believe in G-d, we would RUN to help people in such situations. We would see that G-d it telling us “Look! See that person in pain! Here’s an amazing opportunity to be sensitive to him, to raise yourself to an even higher level!” But we have to see it that way, first. We have to be perceptive to such things. So, it is a process, it will take time to be on such a level, but it is so worth it.
August 29, 2011 2:07 am at 2:07 am in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819694MiddlePathParticipantThanks, Kshmo. I’m really happy I was able to inspire so many people with my story.
MiddlePathParticipanttaking a break, you are doing the right thing by being involved in your school, and you are also doing the right thing by bringing an issue that have to our attention to get advice with. Bein Hasdorim gave very good advice, and I agree with it. And Queen Bee is correct for saying that we shouldn’t be quick to judge and attack.
taking a break, I feel I owe you an apology for judging you about giving non-Jews the cold shoulder. Regardless of what I believe, I should not have said what I said to you, and I’m so sorry.
August 28, 2011 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm in reply to: Life as the son of a Child Molester: My story #819692MiddlePathParticipantalways, thank you. And the RAH approach is interesting. For me, I was able to accept my situation. But it actually took me a while to recognize what the effects would be, as there are still many that come into play. But I think the healing process will be a life-long journey, and I accept that. G-d knows what He is doing, and I am obviously supposed to learn and grow from the effects of what happened for years to come, and I appreciate and look forward to that opportunity.
MiddlePathParticipantI’m glad I went to a high school that had a high level General Studies department. But really, for my current college education, I think I would have scraped by with a mediocre high school education.
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