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LAmother
I don’t know
The super rich part certainly sounds appealingujm
“Why are you assuming that the divorced women’s children will need to be supported by the step-father (her new husband) rather than by their natural father (her ex)?”
Remember
I am in this parsha and know the reality of exesGadolHadrofi
Is ujm, Joseph?
I was wondering what happened to himZaphod
“money won’t be an issue because now there will be more people bringing in a salary”
I am guessing you aren’t married.
Lets do some Math (and I will grant you the following makes a lot of presumptions, but it is fairly illustrative)
Women are rarely the primary income earners. After all, they are needed at home.
In a 6 person household (2 parents 4 kids) with the husband earning 100k and the wife 50k. The per person income is 25k.
Now the husband marries a divorced woman with 4 kids (adding 5 people to the house). The new wife would need to earn 125k to keep the family per person income at 25k (it doesn’t matter what numbers you input, the second wife needs to earn more than the husband). And this doesn’t take into account the need for a larger house (or second home).
In other words, unless there is significant wealth here, these scenarios are a money drain.ujm
I was actually being tongue in cheek
but lets take it seriously
I am divorced/remarried
most divorced women come with kids ie extra mouths to feed
If I was in a stable/healthy marriage with my own children of what benefit is it to me to take in another person with kids? This translates into hundreds of thousands of dollars I need to spend on each one to see them through school and marriage etc
Why would any sane man do such a thing?LAmother
I asked my wife for her opinion on the subject (as you suggested we need some female input here)
She told me she is perfectly fine with helping solve the shidduch crises this way, as long as she gets to choose the woman. She would make sure that she is “super rich and super ugly”Haleivi
How can I say they were armed?
Simple deduction from the fact that they fought a 70 year war against the Romans
Was everyone armed? I am willing to concede that those sitting in bais medrash and especially those calling themselves perushim, probably did not participate in the battles
But even the taanaim took sides as we see with Rabbi Akiva and Bar cochvah.Even if this helps the shidduch crisis, I am reasonably sure it will magnify the divorce crisis
Avira
You don’t seem to be consistent
First , Purim yes they didn’t immediately form an army. Bc they had 11 months to deal with the situation. And tefilla did work. But if it was the Adar 12 with no resolution in sight do you really think they wouldn’t have formed an army?
You say “if you are directly attacked “you can defend yourself . How else would you define the holocaust? Do you think that any gadol who knew what lay in wait at the end of those train tracks would have just said “sure , just take the train and hope for the best”? Would you have willingly taken your family on that train?
Killing nazis is a mitzvah. Mechias amalek.Ubi
Whether or not it was a “fraud” the Supreme Court disagreed and ratified the individual right
Now, as we are seeing with abortion, Supreme Court winds can blow in different directions so who knows maybe the winds of change will happen to the second amendment also. But as I said before in different words. We would be poking the bear. Second amendment believers are no less willing to fight for the right of ownership than we are willing to fight for our religion.Smerel
You aren’t alone
Right after the Rodney King riots in the 90s i read an article by an assimilated Hollywood Jew. He said essentially the same thing that you did. That after coming out of his Hollywood studio completely surrounded by rioters he came to the conclusion that in times of unrest the police will never be there for you. And he went from being anti-gun to applying for a license.
Personally I would Tighten gun control laws. Years ago I stopped being a member of the NRA because of their stance on so-called cop killer bullets. I did not see a need for those and was perfectly fine with them being out of civilian hands. And I came to the conclusion that the NRA stance of fighting everything is too radical. That said, as I’ve said several times, this is not a problem that’s going to go away by waving a magical wand , and if that’s the case I’d rather have my option of owning a gun rather than the alternative.Avira
I’m still finding it hard to see your point of view. Using your example of Purim. Had they not gotten permission should they all have just lain down and died? Should they have just said this is obviously a gezarah of hashem and we can’t fight ? Obviously they would’ve fought. And from the fact that they did ultimately end up fighting you see that they had weapons.
We defended ourselves during various pogroms , the crusades etc. we didn’t always do very well. But we had weapons whether they were swords or pitchforks or axes.
There is no mikor for an attitude of pacifism or disarmament in Judaism (but there is such an attitude in xtrianity)
And your statement from Israel simply proves my point. In times of danger you need to arm yourself. Pray first, but be prepared to fight. In dangerous situations Rav Moshe allowed women to carry firearms. He didn’t say “just daven”Avira
I think you are confusing history with hashkafa. The Maccabees were gedolim and armed
The taanaim were armed but knew we couldn’t beat the Romans and advised against war. The zealots didn’t listen and we got the second churban. Rabbi akiva at first supported the revolt of bar chochba (certainly a taana) and we were free for a few years but then we had beitar and the total subjugation of the Jews. First by the Romans then the xtrians. That is why arms are not part of our existence. We have not been in a position of power for 2000 years. But with the state of Israel and American laws that has changed.
Your original statement that we daven and eisav was given the sword is refuted by the fact that Yaakov himself prepared for war against eisav.
Our power comes from tefilla but we always used tefilla to prepare for war. Now that after 2000 years we are back in our country not subject to dearmament do you really think the approach should be just tefilla? Should Israel just ditch the weapons and rely on a tefilla gathering? There is no proof/support for that approach even in the times of the midbarAvira
God disagrees
Shemos 32:27 “Hashem says every man should take his sword and kill his brother and relative “(who sinned at the eigal). The were ALL armed. And the Torah is replete with examples of them using those arms.
When mashiach comes and we are called on to wipe out amalek, I am prepared. Are you going to argue with mashiach that it isn’t “the Jewish way”?Reb eliezer
I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Halachically there is no issue with owning a gun nor with defending your life with one. The idea that you can make all the guns in the US disappear and we are suddenly all safe is an obvious pipe dream.
In addition you will notice I didn’t argue any specific gun control proposal. Mostly bc as has been pointed out they are mostly foolish to those of us who know guns.
Example :assault rifles. The term is a cosmetic one that doesn’t address the lethality of the weapon. There are numerous weapons of the same caliber that don’t fall under the label and are just as lethal.
In fact all you have to do to turn an assault rifle into a legal semi auto rifle is to cut off the part of the pistol grip that protrudes past the trigger housing.
And many similar type bypasses are available at every gun store in restrictive states.Ubi
“why do you seem open to those restrictions (as long as no jail time) but not guns“
The obvious answer is one is against halacha and the moral fabric of society and the other isn’t
But again, taking out the discussion about whether it benefits society etc. you really do not understand the mindset of the average gun owner.
Buyback programs might remove a small percentage. Threats might remove a larger percentage. But the vast majority will not comply. I said vast majority not small minority like you seem to think. The research is on my side along with the anecdotal evidence of knowing many people not in compliance with the restrictive post sandy hook NYS safe law.Reb eliezer
Yet tanach is full of battlesUbi
As for your comment about being unhinged. No I don’t think that they are unhinged. But that doesn’t mean that they will comply.
How many of our people complied with government edicts concerning Covid?
Existing evidence shows that the majority of people will not comply. Which leaves the government either to enforce it with unconstitutional draconian measures that will lead to shoot outs in some cases perhaps even more. But even if they choose not to enforce it they have still turned millions of gun owners who will not comply into felons. You might say so what? I call that greatest abuse of civil rights in our history.
The government needs to think before it acts.
And the same applies to abortion. We can outlaw it. We can hold providers responsible. But to start filling our jails with women would be a huge governmental overreach.
I believe this point is valid regardless of whether or not confiscation makes sense. Because in essence at this moment none of these owners are criminals. You are criminalizing them based upon something that they might do in the future.Ubi
First let’s distinguish between criminal acts like abortion and civil like speeding.
I do not believe we should be putting people who get abortions into jail. I never believed that drug users belonged in jail. I personally believe that jail should be for those who are a danger to society.
existing precedence shows where these laws are going. Example. After the NYS safe act the government brought a case against a man Who had 8 bullets in his clip/gun rather than the legalized seven. Our government wanted to send him to jail. Existing gun owners are not hardened criminals that we should be seeking to send thousands of them to jail.
As I said as of right now tens of thousands of New York assault rifle owners are officially felons because they refuse to comply with the law. The government has the balance what it’s trying to accomplish with reality. And if they see that the edicts are not being listened to they need to take that into account
Our chachumim never made a halacha if they saw the masses refused to complyhaleivi
The greatest surge in NYC Jewish applications for a license has happened in the last few years. Dec 2019 was the Jersey city shooting the third attack on a Jewish institution in less than 6 months.
Then came BLM and the riots and curfews. Does anyone really think cameras or even the police force was a deterrent? In times of unrest the police force is not there for the individual. We have all seen that within the last few years. Look at the looting of stores that still happens on a daily basis.
Just bc the goyish culture has become so messed up that they can do this to each other, do we want to give up our right of defense for the sake of feeling that we are doing something?
I am not saying everyone should have a gun. I am saying that the Jewish need of defense outweighs what essentially boils down to feel good proposals. Proposals that stand no chance of working without draconian government intervention.
איזהו החכם הרואה את הנולד
Perhaps if the founding fathers knew how screwed up we would get they would have ditched the second amendment. Or perhaps they would have just given up on the revolution idea and stayed vassals of a more mature British society.Ujm
The one in Lakewood has a posted heter iska allowing to stay open on shabbos
The one in union has mezuzos on every door.
So both are shomer shabbos
A good percentage of the people shooting in Lakewood are Jewish
Fathers bring their bais Yakov girls all the time
On pesach one of my relatives in Lakewood told me that the only thing all there kids could agree on as a chol hamoed trip, was a trip to the rangeYserbius
Again there is a big difference between wishing for a utopian world and the reality that we live in
You seem to be the wishful kind of person
I’m more realistic. Seven years ago when New York State banned assault rifles they created a registration for existing ones. Estimates that I’ve seen say that 95% of New Yorkers ignored the ban. Which means that the state turned tens of thousands of legal gun owners into felons.
That was for registration. Do you really think that American mentality is going to allow confiscation without a Civil War? Without draconian government methods? Without armed resistance and deaths?
Is it really ethical to turn legal gun owners into felons for the sake of “doing something “?And OP
Two out of the three ranges I frequent are Jewish owned so I am not sure that we are “not invested”
One in Lakewood and one in Union NJAnother issue with the various posters, you are all city boys
Every rancher needs to protect against coyotes
And a .22 just won’t do it
People living on the border have undesirables walking through their property and need protection
What about the woman this weekend that stopped an active shooter?
What about that church shooting a few years ago
Seriously. What is the plan?Yserbius
So your plan is to ban all calibers above .22
But how do we get to that point?
What are you doing with the 300 million guns already out there?
Because if you think Americans are just going to hand in all their guns you are living in an alternate reality
And if you give the govt the ability to confiscate/arrest those who do not comply then you are committing the greatest civil liberties infringement as you take millions of law abiding citizens and turn them into felonsThe problem that I’ve always had with time travel on a scientific level, is that time is not a physical force that can be manipulated. Time is simply the measurement of moment moment using some sort of conventional scale.
For example. The idea of a second didn’t exist 200 years ago simply because we did not have the tools to create a second. If you asked me if we could manipulate gravity one day, I would say yes because it is a physical force. What time isn’t.
And then of course there is a theological problem of being able to manipulate past events that God already decreed.Syag
yes, that was my point
After rolling my eyes at another relative who was there I got involved in the conversation and assured them that it was the same thing
They looked at me and said “are you sure?”. I told them I was, and they administered the drug.
My point was that you aren’t necessarily dealing with the best and the brightest so mistakes will happen
FYI
This was a top NYC hospitalTwo years ago I was visiting a relative in the hospital when nurses came in to administer an ordered dose of medication. I was then treated to a conversation between the two as to whether or not .5 and the .50 that was written on the orders was the same thing.
Though this story was innocuous my grandfather always checked the meds he was given. He told me that once he caught a decimal mistake. He was about to receive 10x the ordered dose and he was told that if he had not caught the mistake the drug would in all likelihood have killed him.Should we?
Is it worth the expense?
Sure there is a tourist industry, but you don’t need the sea at its current levels. Even if it continues to shrink there will remain accessible areas for the tourists. So why make a massive investment in it?My son just asked me to build him a shtender for yeshiva
We recently went to a large local shul
He put his gemarrah on at least 15 different types and picked one
i measured it at 21 degreesujm
Your hashkafos are clearly krum
why limit her to 16
she reaches maturity at 12and yes always
I thought my quotations were implied by the way i phrased itI’m just curious
what is wrong with letting the girls decide?
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are you really doing this for her or for you?
one side effect of waiting longer is that you either don’t need to help out as much or if you are really lucky she decides she wants a working guy, and then you dont need to support at all. So how much self interest is involved with your decision making?Having actually been through this process here are words of wisdom
Ideally the civil divorce and get should be executed at the same time with the process being guided by a frum mediator or bais din.
No one wins. There are compromises necessary. But if people actually want to follow halacha and do what is best for the kids they need to accept the rulings of the impartial parties outside of the fighting.
The problems start when one side isn’t interested in guidance but winning or his/her own cheshbonos. And with such a person what use is a macha? You can have all the gedolim in the world line up on one side and he will still have his cheshbonos.if they continue the $100 per shot program, i am willing to do one a week
I fully support your question
I gave a daf shiur for a year. I was putting in 3 hours a day. My biggest issue is I couldn’t remember it long term and that was devastating for me.
I started doing less mesechtos and more frequently and don’t feel guilty in the slightest.
Check out the hakdamah to the chayei adom. Many gedolim have said that gemarrah is only for those with 8+ hours a day to devote to learning.
I recommend looking into the kinyan mesaechta program. I think you would have a lot more hanah from mastering one mesachta rather then not knowing all of them.I davened at a beautiful netz minyan this RH
It solves the problem you addressed and other issues
It certainly made me feel that I was zrizam makdimum l’mitzvos
But I will grant the point that starting at 5:30 am isn’t easy. And I have no intention of joining the minyan on yom kippur, the day is long enough.My AhHah moment came on my YU interview
I grew up in a YI and the Rabbi thought YU would be good for me. So I went and while there I visited the dorms. Some of my friends had brothers already there. I walked into two rooms. Both had large posters of supermodels and no, they were not tznius. I was shocked. I couldn’t understand how a place with the word Yeshiva in it’s name would allow this. I told this to my Rabbi and though he assured me he would put me in the “yeshivish” dorm I realized I had made enough excuses for my community and I headed in a different direction (ultimately ending up in Ner Israel)
This was in the late 80’s
Lets be honest. A survey of the gap year yeshivos in Israel will reveal that the average MO grad is not what should be called shomer shabbos. How do I know? bc my former classmates are rabbeim in these places.
The MO community may have islands of serious students, but they are in a sea of those drowning.When I first saw this topic heading I read it as “coke is better than fentanyl”
Caused me to do a real double take on what the mods are letting through these days
Also makes for a more interesting discussionAvi K
Sorry
Israeli numbers are much more accurate
google breakthrough cases and vaccine efficacy against delta in Israel
You will see reputable sites quoting Pfizer as being as low as 39% effective against delta. which means that up to 61% of the cases being reported in Israel are in fully vaccinated patients.RM
The Cleveland clinic study from June supports your theory. Granted it doesn’t take Delta into account, but it’s reasonable to assume that you are no worse than a vaccinated person.
In addition, I believe Israeli policy recognizes this science and doesn’t require a vaccine for recovered patients.
In addition, I believe a poll of your friends will have similar results to mine. In almost all recovered patients, there was a reaction to the vaccine, with some reporting that it was worse than their initial symptoms to the virus. So a risk/benefit assessment must be made. If scientific studies do not show a need for the vaccine, why would the medical community push a procedure that carries with it side effects?I read the 118 page sefer a few years ago
If I remember correctly, the main argument used against the heter is that when it was written the assumption was that the cask didn’t do much. Then there was a cask shortage and distillers used different casks for the first time.
It was then noted that the other casks gave an inferior product to the point that it affected sales. Distillers since then are willing to pay the price of the cask. This proved the sherry cask was important to the process which is a definite problem in terms of kashrus.CT
The cash cow will probably continue long past his presidency. From what I can tell no recent president has grown poorer post presidency. There are all those libraries to be built.
Also, he has already stated through various channels that he would run again in 2024. Can’t he start collecting for that now and continue for the next 4 years. I would see a fired up base donating post presidency.Charlie
Since I Owe my knowledge to this from a link you provided on a different website, we can always abide by that 1998 study proving the efficacy of prayer.
And thanks for that link it was a fascinating studyThe biggest issue is is that it’s very hard to quantify on a real life basis.
The studies that show that masks reduce aerosol spray and therefore reduce viral particles are all lab produced studies. Those studies show that you can reduce aerosols depending upon the type of mask by anywhere from two times to 26 times.
And that’s for the person wearing the mask. Obviously additional protection is given if the other people in the room are also wearing masks.
The biggest question is how does this affect the overall pandemic spread?
To quote a recent VuMedi post put out by a top virologist “ It’s hard to say exactly, but in south east Asia where the culture has always been to wear masks, they are doing much better than we are“Yserbius
To a large extent you’re comparing apples and oranges. Though I won’t deny the possibility of re-infection. If you do some research on CDC website as to the reliability of the flu vaccine and why it needs to be tinkered with every single year versus infectious disease websites that talk about T cell immunity and sars viruses. You will see that you can’t make a straight out comparison
Bottom line : as of right now reinfection is highly unlikely. T cell immunity which replaces the early antibodies seems to be pretty effective for sars type viruses.
The current thinking is that a second wave will not affect New York City that badly and we are less likely to have re-infection from Covid versus the flu infection that requires an annual vaccine because of mutations/strains
I am in no way suggesting that we should not be wearing masks, I’m just suggesting that we don’t panicIf you think about it, its logical that the witnesses don’t actually carry out any punishment that requires skill. It would be inhumane
We know specifically that there was a court appointed malkus giver of specific physical characteristics.
It seems unlikely that beheading would be carried out by a stam witness. It takes skill, accuracy and power to take someones head off with one swift stroke. What would you do if the witness was 80 years old?N0mesorah
It was an intriguing question. Gave me something to do over shabbos.
But to answer your question, I have no clue. The whole thing is an educated guess. But it can’t be hard to get two big guys to grab the arm of the individual and force him to pick up a sword.
The Rambam phrases carrying out the missa as a mitzvas bais din, but we have the limiting factor that the witness has to go first. So my guess is, since it seems to be a necessary component, they force him somehow.Gadolhadorah
Assuming your claim of nevuah is correct. Of course.
I would like to suggest that this RH, instead of davening for one candidate to win , daven that Hashem should appoint the right shliach to lead the country since He knows bestOn the other hand contrast this with the case of the son of Shimon Ben Shetach
The witnesses recanted Yet the penalty was still carried out. The obvious question is who carried it out. Is it logical to assume that the witnesses who had severe regrets actually agreed to do the process? Or did the courts appoint an executioner?
Based upon everything that I’ve seen in the sources and the specific language, I don’t believe that the witnesses actually have to carry out the full death penalty. I believe the Pasuk can be understood as they just need to start the process. So perhaps if they simply pick up the sword and then hand it to the court appointed executioner that would be enough.
And my guess is that the courts would force them to at least do this minimal amount so that they can carry out the sentenceWolf
It’s not clear that a flat out refusal would still result in the courts carrying out the sentence.
Sanhedrin 45b and Rambam Sanhedrin 14:8 State a specific case. The case involves witnesses who hands were chopped off after the verdict was finalized. And the result is the death penalty will not be carried out bc the pasuk says “The hands of the witnesses should be a first”(devarim 17:7)
The rambam States that a murderer is an exception to the rule. In regards to a murderer the rule is is that if he’s trying to escape anybody should kill him in anyway possible.
strictly based on these sources I would say that if the witnesses run away absolutely the Death penalty will not be carried out