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I’m no investment expert, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to invest your life savings into something like that.
As a general rule: the higher the potential returns, the higher the risk. If it were just easy money everyone would do it.
The OP talked about mid winter vacation. Many people go to Florida for mid winter vacation. There’s a lot of pritzus in Florida.
That’s quite a stretch
ZD, Who said anything about pritzus? I think you’re referring to a different thread.
Ok maybe a better way to phrase it would be “the fetus doesn’t go against the Torah.”
Read what I wrote and think about it.
Where does abortion fit in? Is the fetus another person?
The fetus follows the Torah.
I think that regarding personal matters (i.e. matters that don’t involve another person who may not follow the Torah) it would be preferable for secular law to be less restrictive than Torah law.
The law always protected a mother’s life who was endangered, even in the 9th month.
Is that the only basis for a halachic heter? Aren’t there other considerations too?
it’s pointless to set people up if you’re not 100% sure there won’t be a divorce because if they get married and then divorce it’s on you pleitzes
That might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
We’re talking about adults. It’s not the shadchan’s job to make sure everything is perfect.
What would happen if someone got a heter to have a 9th month abortion, before and after this law was passed?
doomsday, I’m not saying that what you said is false. I’m saying that it is meaningless regarding the current debate.
Have you done this?
I’ve done it with a number of electrical appliances. So far, so good.
How many times have LARGE GROUPS of People accused a PRODUCT of causing harm
and the MANUFACTURERS DENIED it?
And who was ALWAYS RIGHT? The People claiming PRODUCT CAUSED HARM! ALWAYS!doomsday,
That’s a really dumb argument. Not to say the rest of your arguments aren’t dumb, just that this one is particularly dumb.
Immerse the electric kettle and let it thoroughly dry. Unscrew whatever plastic cover there is and use a hair dryer to help it dry faster.
There is an opinion that you can give it to a non-jew and then just borrow it from him, and then it doesn’t require tevilah, but you should ask your local Orthodox Rabbi about that.
Thirty two pages. And still going strong. You really think you’re going to convince each other?
No, I think we’re going to convince them. I don’t think they’re going to convince us.
Are there any other differences between Amish people and the general population, other than the claim that the Amish don’t vaccinate?
Practically, how would an unvaxxed kid ever get diagnosed with autism if they don’t believe in doctors?
Poor, poor Joseph
Well that’s the price he pays to live in-town.
The Jewish community also considers Farrock Away to be in-town. (I know Farrock Away is technically in the 5 boroughs, but the Jewish Community generally considers it to be outside of NYC).
Little did the spaghetti monster know that spaghetti was O’Keefle’s favorite food…
Also, little did the spaghetti monster know that there were people around town referring to him as “the speghatti monster”
The counter argument would be that each school bus allows one or more local families to avoid owning cars that would be needed for school transportation that otherwise would be parked on the same street.
The counter argument to that would be: Meh.
What does scotch tasting mean?
Some burn more, some burn less. What else is there to it?
I say we should all go and protest this terrible fundraiser.
When and where is it, (just so we know when to show up to protest)?
Also how does one RSVP (so we can tell them that we plan on showing up to protest)?
“You know, Avrohom Avienu didn’t check what kind of sweatshirts the three Arabs were wearing when they showed up at his tent. Nor did he give them a questionnaire to fill out.”
How do you know that?
Or a Jewish news website.
So you make a WRONG assumption and then use your WRONG assumption as “Proof” of your WRONG theory!
Wow. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Maybe there’s an exception for cleaning help. Ya know, just because.
Was it before or after Shkiya? If it was after, then your real Crannniversary is not until tonight.
the last time it was dropped in my driveway I left it there for three weeks
I did the same thing and now there’s a pile of mush in my driveway. That’ll teach ’em not to deliver to me again.
Folks, so far ProVaxxers cannot explain why CDC refuses to do a Vaxxed vs UnVaxxed Study!
(retrospective so no ethics).I can explain why very simply: The only people asking for it are the anti-vaxxers like you and it wouldn’t change your opinion anyhow.
And Think for a minute about the fact that Most doctors and nurses will NOT Voluntarily take the Flu Vaccine. I guess those doctors and nurses don’t trust CDC either!
I haven’t had a flu shot in years. Does that mean I don’t trust the CDC?
Why are we referring to christmas as “yom tov”?
A poster to this thread related of a person she knew personally who had a child who was vaccinated and
lapsed into a vegetative state. The next two siblings were 100% unvaccinated and 100% normal.
Then a doctor convinced the mother to vaccinate her fourth child. And the fourth child lapsed into
a vegetative state!This past chanukah I was playing dreidel with my 3 year old and he guessed my spin correctly 5 times in a row. I immediately enrolled him in Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngsters
Doomsday,
This was a CDC STUDY that showed that Vaccines Cause Autism! CDC HID THIS STUDY! When this CDC Study was revealed, CDC hired Scientists to DEBUNK Their Own Study – because CDC did not like the Results – it Proved Vaccines Cause Autism!
I’m sure what you’re saying is very well documented, and not some kind of wild conspiracy theory that you pull out of your back pocket whenever someone debunks an Anti-vaxxer study.
Hey, ProVaxxers – that actually Proves that Vaccines cause Autism and NOT Vaccinating PREVENTS Autism!
That actually doesn’t prove anything! So you’re a LIAR!!
Wow 1200? So that makes a total of 1357!
Just a few hundred more and I’ll be totally convinced. Come on, I’m sure you could find a few hundred more.
I always assumed Joseph was black
Keej,
Because I haven’t embraced this idea that you could make assumptions, then call it evidence.
Well maybe it’s time you embraced that idea. It’s impossible to draw any scientific conclusion without making any assumptions.
Keej,
It doesn’t matter how many subjects you remove from group. As long as there is justification for removing each one and you are left with an adequate sample size, it shouldn’t affect the results of the study.
Keej,
You said you’re justified in removing the 10,000 with red socks. I’m not so sure. What if coincidentally, there was a concentration of either Neuro-typical or Autistic children in that group. That would make a very big difference on the resulting ratio.
The reason studies like this require large samples is to minimize the likelihood of coincidences such as the one you described. A major part of analyzing the results of any statistical study is calculating the probability that the results are in fact meaningful.
This is Statistical Analysis 101.
Wait, wait, wait.
So if I were to start a blog, and on that blog write 1001 articles full of unscientific bogus studies claiming that autism was created by aliens from Jupiter, and then post here that there are over 1000 articles online linking autism to aliens, Doomsday wouldn’t have any problem with that?
Why are the anti-vaxxers the only ones yelling?
(With the exception of Health, but that’s a different story.)
Ok keej, here’s a hypothetical study. Let’s see what you think:
The purpose of the study is to determine the risk factor in the general population for autism.
I take a random sample of 100,000 people.
I remove 10,000 people who are wearing red socks, because I hate red socks. (I’m justified in doing this, because we can all agree that the color of one’s socks has no effect on his risk for autism, so the autism ratio in the remaining group should be the same as in the original group.)
I’m now left with 90,000 people. I find that 900 have autism. I conclude that the risk factor for autism among the general population is 1:100.
Thoughts?
Doomsday,
It could have been the 32 doses of Vaccines other then MMR.
No it couldn’t have, because that would be contrary to our assumptions.
Please learn how science works. Thanks
Keej,
Non-MMR Group
1) Being human with genes.
2) 95,000
3) can’t know who would’ve been triggered by genetics anyways.
4) can’t calculate without #3.Regarding #3, that’s the whole point of the study. We’re starting with the asssumption that autism is caused by either MMR or genetics or both. If someone in the non-MMR group had autism, then we assume it was triggered by genetics (because that’s the only possibility, based on our asssumptions). So we do have all the numbers we need, and therefore we can calculate #4.
Doomsday,
NY law only allows for a religious exemption. If you consider your garbage to be grounds for a religious exemption, then you don’t belong in this forum.
Keej,
Ok then, let’s break this down further.
(Autism Ratio of Group X) = (Number of autistic children in Group X)/(Total number of children in Group X)
Correct or incorrect?
As demonstrated above, it IS higher. The number calculate in the study is a false misleading number.
So you’re saying when the counted the number of children in the group and the number of those children who had autism, they counted wrong?
I’m talking about counting, 1,2,3, not calculations.
Keej,
You’re making this way more complicated than it is.
The logic of this study is very straightforward:
If P, then Q.
If not Q, then not P.
Not Q, therefore not PClear?
So now let’s plug everything in:
If [MMR causes Autism], then [the autism ratio in Group A should be higher than that of Group B].
If [the autism ratio in Group A is not higher than that of Group B], then [MMR does not cause Autism].[The autism ratio in Group A is not higher than that of Group B] therefore [MMR does not cause Autism].
For this to be a valid argument, you need to accept the following assertion:…
No you don’t
If I were an anti-vaxxer, I would be telling doomsday to stop talking. He’s just making you guys look bad.