Meno

Sparkly,

I said that some people aren’t cut out for college, and the best they can get is a useless degree. For those people, this job makes sense.

Not everyone is as smart as you.

Joseph,

Not one

I think the best way to deal with anti-semites is to deal with them as if they are regular people. Unless you feel like you are in danger, you don’t gain anything by dealing with them differently. By dealing with them differently you are possibly adding fuel to the fire.

“shabbos nachmi”

Chasidish or typo?

Or you can just leave it a mystery…

Happygirlygirl,

You do rock. You’re like the all-star of the coffee room

You know, I went to a pet store looking for a coffee maker, and the guy said, “we don’t sell those here.” I said, “why not? you sell dogs here, whats the difference?” So he said, “one is a dog, the other is a coffee maker.”

Excellence, do you work in a pet store?

I think blue was just the common color back then.

The gemara often uses the word “k’chol” (not sure about the pronounciation) to refer to eye makeup. I don’t think it means specifically blue.

“What if they don’t pay the charges? The credit card issuers will come after you not them.”

What you’re saying is true, but based on what I’ve heard, this is not the concern – they do end up paying for the charges.

The issue is that they do the whole thing in shady ways like I described earlier, so you don’t owe any money but the credit card companies hate you.

Sparkly,

bk613 didn’t say some people don’t want college. He/she said some people aren’t cut out for college. For those people to go to college is simply a waste of time because they will either (A) fail out or (B) end up with a useless degree. College will only give them a false sense of hope, and set them up for disappointment.

Jobs like the ones the OP mentioned are perfect opportunities for those people.

“(c) If the studies do not cause you to learn Apikursus or to befriend Goyim, and you learn secular studies in order to know a skill to make a living, it is permitted, and it is a Mitzvah.”

I got a degree from a secular college and the above quote is an accurate description of my experience

Do you need any education to be a fedex/ups driver?

If not then $29/hour isn’t bad at all

I’ve heard that over the past bunch of years they’ve been genetically modifying tomatoes so that they look nicer, but as a result they don’t taste as good. So tomatoes will never taste as good as they did 20 years ago

I think the rule of “opposites attract” only applies to magnetic and electrical forces. In most other cases the rule is more like “opposites don’t necessarily repel”

They do the spending in very shady ways (e.g. they buy a refundable airline ticket, get the points, cash out the points, then cancel the ticket). It will very likely ruin your credit score, or at the very least ruin your relationship with credit card companies. If you never plan on opening a credit card or taking out a loan, it might be ok.

I’m surprised YWN even accepts their ads

Sparkly,

your

Sparkly,

You clearly have a strange definition of OTD

How does one “work out” their past life?

I wonder what I was

if Heaven wants your beard to turn grey early, your beard will turn grey early. You have very little control over anything life other than how you respond to a situation.

Excellence,

Wonderful response. You could probably use that response in every single thread in this coffee room.

If someone smokes on Tisha B’av, are they considered OTD?

It certainly doesn’t make sense to turn down the shidduch because of this

Just a recap for the folks following along at home, it’s a bit hard to follow:

lilmod ulelamaid: “Not being tznius is also one of the biggest aveiros because you are sending to people to Gehinnom which is the greatest act of cruelty a person can perform.”

Sparkly: “i highly doubt people wear not tznius clothes to be cruel to others they just think their being pretty.”

Meno: “So they’re sending people to gehinnom inadvertently. That’s not so great either.”

Sparkly: “so your saying that by sometimes wearing shorter skirts im sending people to gehinom? i dont think so…”

lilmod ulelamaid: “Uh, Sparkly, hate to break it to you, I guess this is something you haven’t learned yet, but you are actually… When you cause people to do aveiros, you are sending them to gehenom. That’s the reason why people get so upset about girls dressing untzniusly! If it didn’t affect anyone else, people wouldn’t shrei about it so much since it would just be a personal decision.”

Meno: “Inadvertently, but that’s still not great”

Sparkly: “Meno – i shouldve added im sorry if you feel that way.”

lilmod ulelamaid: “Sparkly, it’s not a feeling – it’s the Halacha, and feelings don’t change the halacha.”

Sparkly: “lilmod ulelamaid – did i say that?”

lilmod ulelamaid: “Sparkly – did you say what?”

I don’t fully know the situation, not even close, so if what I’m saying is way off you can just disregard it.

It sounds like you’re in a deadlock: You want to forgive her, but she won’t listen to you. She wants you to apologize for something, you think there is nothing to apologize for.

It’s a deadlock – both of you think you are right, and there’s no way either one of you will get anywhere if each one pushes her own agenda. The only way to get anywhere is if one of you gives in (me’vater) at least a little.

That leaves you, Sparkly, with two options.

Your first option is to keep pushing her until she gives in. This rarely works, and based on what you’ve said so far about the situation, I find this very unlikely to work.

Your second option is to give in a little yourself. Hear her out. Figure out why she wants you to apologize. Admit that you might be wrong, even if you don’t think so deep down. Once you step back a bit and loosen up the deadlock, you are more likely to get somewhere.

I’m surprised more people haven’t posted in this thread. Boggles my mind…