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  • in reply to: Avg. income of frum families #857626
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    It seems to me like this post ran a tad bit off topic.

    I believe the average income of a frum family in Flatbush with 3-5 kids needs to be 150 before tax in order to live. With nothing fancy.

    I am sure many are not making that and are able to compensate in other ways ie Gov’t programs, carefully planning the budget and possible help from relatives.

    I do not know how the current lifestyle is sustainable and I wish everyone much Hatzlacha and we should all continue to daven for a yeshua.

    The following is based on a freinds budget I recently reviewed to give him some ideas (mostly a shoulder and a ear to hear him out)

    This is a basic with out all categories monthly budget:

    Mortgage 3200

    Tutiton 2000 during summer it goes towards day camp in the city

    Food 1500

    Phones 100

    Electric 150 level payment plan

    gas 300

    clng lady 320 wife works and needs the extra help

    car ins. 350 2 cars both needed for work purposes

    car paymnt389 Car lease, 1998 van broke down and needed to be replaced and did not have money to spend on buying used highway worthy van

    Medical 250 co-pays and dental work average

    Clothing 400 including shoes

    Car gas 150

    tolls 50

    gifts 50 birthday/bar mitzvah/wedding on average

    9209 x 12 = 110,508 which is very close to the net income off a 150k gross income

    I did no include shul membership, or things like $35/month for the Gardner or water bill. It is a rough idea and is incomplete.

    Hatzlacha!!

    in reply to: Avg. income of frum families #857579
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    I am not sure wether you are right or not that this can be harmful for people to read and see what others are making, however perhaps it is helpful to people as myself that are perplexed and the current financial situation young forum families face.

    in reply to: Avg. income of frum families #857561
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    Ah, the great debate.

    Net ? Most people know their gross.

    How old are we discussing ? Tri state is very vast Teaneck isnmostly professionals while Flatbush is not. Tuition in the five towns is $15,000 in many schools Brooklyn is between 7-9.

    I like your thread, but I think you need to be more specific in your questions so a more intelligent thread can be had.

    Thank you.

    in reply to: A child's cry – How divorce ravages children #780876
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    We need to make ourselves sensitive to what marriage is and what it isn’t we have preconceived false western expectations, about what marriage is and it can’t and wasn’t meant to be that. Its very sad to see so many people falling into the pit which destroys families and individuals.

    in reply to: A child's cry – How divorce ravages children #780873
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    Haifa girl, maybe your prayer should be more focused on the parents not being lazy and not willing to bend. Sure there is a point where meschetas gittin needs to be practiced BUT not as frequently as it is. Try reading the River the Kettle and the bird it will change your perspective and your life.

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