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No email…, I think most people who really have been there agree with me.
Kako, think — England.
No email…, maybe you visited Zurich on Mars or Venice? I visited Switzerland, including Zurich, on Earth. I saw it and others had similar experiences. If you go in a Chareidi (meaning looking very different) clothing, you definitely get very dirty and hostile looks. If you just wear a yarmulke, the hostility is somewhat less.
No e-mail…, maybe it is because you are a girl and people do not think you are Jewish? Otherwise, it is totally not true.
OP, you see what you did? Joe is going out of his keilim.
There was a letter, but not everybody held like that. The fanatical anti-Zionists (HaKatan, the multi-headed dragon of Josef etc.) will attempt to claim there was none. Don’t believe them!
Sam2, see the Gemorah for yourself. It is in Chullin, around 92A-B.
Fkelly, I do not know who Andrew Solomon is nor do I care. We know what Ribono shel Olam said.
Ubiquitin, I care about the ratzon Ha’Shem and the proper state of the human race, first. And I care about the good Goyim who do what they are supposed to do. Nothing to laugh about!
Benignuman, you can learn the Gemorah in Chullin like that but it is, for sure, mashma that it is a big thing that they don’t(didn’t) do it.
Benignuman, I do not think we don’t hold like the Rambam. It’s just the general apathy and amaratzus. Especially, because for most of our golus we could not do it and even now we are very limited regarding this chiyuv. It does not mean that we don’t pasken like that. Especially that Halochah is usually like Rambam against Ramban.
Adams , see my post about the special chumrah of this aveirah. Would you go to an intermarriage wedding which is less chomur?
What_in_…, are you frum? Do you know that Rambam paskened that we have an obligation to enforce the 7 mitzvos on the Umos if we can?
Ubiquitin, you are wrong! Gemorah in Chulin says that one of the zechusim the Goyim have is that they do not officially marry men.So it is an issue.
Akuperma, get busy with the American law at which you are an expert, not with Halochah where you are not. Those Ba’alos teshuvah are made to look for a get only if possible as an extra chumrah. Btw, you attitude towards the Jewish people is nauseating.
What_is_in…, let me explain to you. Mishkav zochur is a chiyuv misa, yehareg ve’lo’yaavor and kares (for a Yid) and it’s assur even for a Ben Noach. Plus Maharal writes that no other aveirah attaches a person to the Sotan as much as gilui arayos. Cheating in business or treif are by far much less.
Sam2, I am not sure if what you said expresses it all but a part of it, for sure. Yasher koach.
Charliehall,the liberal, what was wrong with Lot “marrying” his daughters or Yehudah “marrying” Tamar?
Ubiquitin, I meant what a real Toraj-true Jew should hold!
Yichusdic and others, there are Halochos(Mitzvos) obligatory for Bnei Noachs. According to Rambam we have to enforce them if we have enough koach. Certainly, we are not to have a non-chalante attitude towards the issue or,chas ve’sholom, support it. We are to oppose it. Plus, we need not worry so much about finding favor in the eyes of the frei Yidden.
And, Rebdoniel, I deny no documents. I just say that it is often far from lechatchila or even wrong (at times) to follow that derech. OK?
ROB, about the Chillul Ha’Shem, I meant what the Isr. Chareidim do by refusing to serve and how they do it.
ROB, just do me a favor try to pay attention to what I wrote, especially, in my last post. And, exactly, Ramo himself did not like the heter/limud zechus of his own– that’s exactly what I meant. It all depends on what you are out to do (hey, Rebdoniel, I am talking to you too now). If you want to do the ratzon Ha’Shem you need to pasken based on “theoretics”. If you just want to have your kulos no matter what (or stam do whatever you want) and then expect some Rabbi to come along and create a post factum heter, that’s a different story. But then you are not an yirey Shamaim or even not an erlache Yid (depending on the circumstances).
Ubiquitin, any Torah-true Jew.
And btw, ROB and Truthsharer, the Israeli Chareidim also “were looking for and found a heter for the Chillul Ha’Shem shaila” vis-a-vis the share-the-burden issue. I bet this “heter” you don’t like.
Because they have American hashkofos and not Torah ones. Shame on them!
Rebdoniel, you are so off that it is useless to talk to you. Are you having a party at the Jewish(Conservative) Theological Seminary?
ROB and Truthsharer, as a last attempt to enlighten you. There is such a thing as looking for a heter or trying to find a justification for a certain practice, but you have to understand that often the justification is shaky or plain invalid or not-a-lechatchilah. It is important to bear this in mind unless(I hope not) you are just looking for an execuse to do something.
ROB, you attacked me first. If you don’t want to understand ( just re-read my posts and think about them), I can’t help you. There is no evidence against me.
Rebdoniel, A happy YU/JTC day!
Outrageous!!! “They don’t allow them to serve Ha’Shem in peace…”. If not for the Medinah all those kollel people in Eretz Yisroel would be working and a long, long time ago. Plus the OP is a troll.
Sam2, your reply is self-contradictory. That “different outlook” is exactly that which you mentioned “looking for kulos and finding extra shaas ha’dchaks”.
ROB and Sam2, there is such a thing as straightness, namely — not twisting the Torah to satisfy demands of kalim.
ROB – no thanks to you for your reply. It is you who has a skewed MO am-haaretz view on Halochah.
Sam2, even if it’s true about certain Poskim, who said they were right?
ROB, life does not override Halochah, chas ve’sholom. There are leniencies within Halochah for difficult situations. If we allow something be’shas hadchak etc. it is because there is enough “theoretical” basis (shittos/shittah) to allow it. If there is not, it is ossur.
Secondly, it is ossur de’rabbonon to make a new fire on Yom Tov.
ROB and Truthsharer, it is a false and dangerous precept that there could be a legitimate difference between theory and life in Halochah. What you probably heard about is that some Poskim would try more to justify questionable practices than some other Poskim. But it is not so good as you imply as sometimes the justifications could be good ones while at other times — not so. So one can end up with a questionable practice with not-really-valid post factum justifications.
Charliehall,Gemora in Kesuvos 72A says it is. Who holds it’s de’rabbonon or a minhag? One always can find a shitta which holds of some far–off kula or chumra that we don’t psken like.
Sam2, I think learning only those 3 is not enough to know how to pasken.
Rebdoniel, he clearly writes that women must cover their hair. It’s de’Oraisa. As far as the issue of men’s hirhurim when saying Shma he is lenient about the hair of a married woman in his time and place. And it would not apply to other body parts btw.
Sam2, it is wrong to search for the most meikal shittah unless it’s shas ha’dchak.
Rebdoniel, the A.H. never offered a limud zechus on women not covering their hair. Seconly, it is wrong to say about a Gemorah that it’s “less objective”. I can explain your statement in an non-offensive way, but still you have to be careful about what you say.
ROB, a historical-geographical correction. When we speak about (the Jewish) Russia, Lita is the northern half of it with the Ukraine(minus eastern Galicia) being the second.
Oldlady, what did that small protest accomplish?
ROB, This is outrageous! you can’t twist Halochos just because you want to kasher a mamzer! When it’s to your liking you consider someone a Ger, but in a different situation where you need some heter you don’t consider the same type of person a Ger!
ROB, if a non-Jew says that he accepts all the mitsvos, but then the next Shabbos you see him driving around and eating at a treif restaurant, it obviously creates a big question about the sincerety of his kabbolas ha’Mitsvos.
ROB, about the “noval be’rshus ha’Torah” — wrong again. Ramban brings down the concept under the mitsvah of “Kedoshim tihyu”.
ROB, there are Torah-true and obligatory directives which come out from divrei Chazal, Rambam and other Gedolim. Not everything is brought down in the S.A. I am sorry to tell you this — but you just have not learnt enough.
ROB, there are Torah-true and obligatory directives which come out from divrei Chazal, Rambam and other Gedolim. Not everything is brought down in the S.A. I am sorry to tell you this — but you just have not learnt enough.
WYI, please, read my warning above.
MHY, Good job! +1!
ROB, I am sorry to repeat it,but if you learn more Gemorah and Poskim you’ll see that many of the things you think of as mili de’alma are not that — there are Halachos and Hashhkofos about them. Do you really think that election of a Chief Rabbi who is going to pasken shailos and supervise marriages, kashrus, mikvaos etc. is in mili de’alma categery? Are you saying this with a straight face?
Secondly, I do not believe Poskim are infallible, but I also think it is wrong for a layman or half-layman to reject their opinion casually because he doesn’t like it (without very solid proofs).
I moche in the strongest terms.
PBA, I think it is sacriligeous.
Nishtdayngesheft(Joe), I heard about the Rashi’s daughters from a certain Rosh Yeshivah.
Playtime, (a different name would be more appropriate for a discussion such as this), Chassidus is all based on Zohar and Kisvei Ari.
My source? It is the same source that says that Christianity is avodah zorah. Namely, all Chachmei Yisroel from Chazal down.
Truthsharer, where does it say one can not call another Jew (who is a roshah) evil? (I am not saying Rav Stav is.)
ROB, learn more and you’ll see that many things you regard as mili de’olma are actually in the realm of Halocha and Hashkofas Chazal. (And don’t provoke me again into having to bombard you with sourses.)
A WARNING! The abovementioned statement is from Kabbolah. One has to be vey careful when analyzing it. To understand it ke’pshuto is apikorsus. The Christians belive that Yoshke is a cheilek of HaShem. That’s why their religion is an avodah zorah.
Gefen, your computer has probably been infected with a virus of sorts.