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I second Sam2 on the Medinah.
Popa bar Abba, what is the purpose of wearing perfume on a date? The man is not allowed to smell it as she is an erva.
Am Yisroel Chai, you should not use the words ” dubious honor” in relation to HKB”H.
The revealing is mefurash in Targum on Koheles. Chafets Chaim brings it down.
Abelle, Itche Srulik, I am not done yet. There is a ma’ase with Ulla which is brought down in 2 places in the Gemora. When Ulla came to Bavel, he saw that very cheap friuts were available ( I think, figs). He then had a big question about the Babylonian Jews: if there is such cheap food available in Bavel, why don’t the Babylonians learn? (He meant more people should be in kollel or work very part-time). Afterwards, he discovered that you can’t eat a lot of figs, so he stopped wondering. In fact, the Shul. Aruch Or.Chaim 156 says that one should attempt ( if possible ) to make learning his main occupation and work a secondary one.
Abelleh, the reason why few people were in kollel in Europe is because they had very limited financial resources there — not because anybody thought that is wrong to increase the number of learners. Had they had the money, more people qwould have learnt.
Gemora in Kesubos 106A is mefurash that there used to be tons of people learning in times of Chazal, just as there are today in Lakewood.
There are numerous sources that there is a mitsva to support learning. Gemora in Kesuvos 111B is mefurash that one does not merit the techias ha’meisim unless one is a Talmid Chocham or has seriously assisted one. Chofets Chaim writes in “Ahavas Chesed” that the ma’aser from one’s earnings should go mostly to support learners.
Tora4ever613, I do disagree. If a Yid sits and learns, even if he is not learning up a lot, he still does a very big mitsva — he is not wasting his time, chas ve’sholom. And it is not “an easy way out”, unless you are talking about someone getting a lot of money in support but managing to totally “butel” away — an unusual case.
If you want to tell me that we can’t afford to have everybody in Kollel for a long time — I agree. You must also remember that supporting people in learning is also a very big mitsva.
Good kashos — you did ask.
You did not make a tumul for nothing.
Charliehall, are you sure Abarbanel held like that? Even if he did, it is a very shvere opinion that we do not follow. The Gemora is very clear that it is a mitsva to have a king, and the Rambam brings it down.
I did not mean to say that figs and strawberries are not shailos(ask your Rov). I just meant to say that sometimes some people make tumuls which are not justified.
Always runs…, you are asking good kashos.
WIY, we are in golus. What can we do? We can not be “mesgare be’umos ha’olam” either.
Tomche, you may not squeeze money out of resentful and unwilling people to keep yourself in kollel. They are not mechuyav to support all those people in kollel. It is Chillul HaShem, plain and simple.
Popa-bar-Abba, are you serious? It is a simple fact that there is. Now, you have a kasha: how then it can pass through the Knesset. You have to know how the Israeli political system works. The larger parties need the Chareidi MKs’ votes to form the government. The Chareidi MKs say: “Nothing doing unless…”. The others then have to give in because their main concern is not the money for the Chareidim. It does not mean, however, that a lot of stam Israelis do not resent it a lot.
GAW, what shaychus? The issue is keeping a ton of people in Kollel forever on the government money in the face of the open and bitter opposition of the taxpayers.
Gavra-at work, please, also keep in mind that in earlier days it was not a shaila as the number of avreichim in EY was small, and even the frei Yidden did not mind it.
R’ Chanina ben Tradion’s wife vs. R’ Chanina ben Tradion. Who is correct?
GAW, who was R’ Chanina ben Tradion’s wife to know that her husband was wrong and should be rebuked? Gemora in AZ faults her for failing to do so.
What is your definition of Chillul HaShem? Or you are still trying to figure out the definition of MO?
Twisted, we do not pasken like that Rambam. Look in Shach, Yore Deya, Hilchos Talmud Torah.
GAW, what is going on in EY is a major Chillul HaShem.
GAW, the only Gadol (that I am aware of) who paskened something like this was R’ Moshe because he assumed that the Goyim are not going to have ta’anos. Needless to say a very shvere assumption. And no, nowhere does it say that Talmud Torah doche Chillul HaShem and Eiva.
GAW, you missed my point. I am talking about what constitutes Hillul HaShem or Eiva, not about American law.
If a Yid gets food stamps legally, but something appears unseemly to an objective outside observer, it is Chillul HaShem and Eiva(causing animosity).
Droid, for the first marriage we pasken like Beis Shamai:” Al igaresh ele im ken matza ba ervas dovar (unless she wants it)”.
NaturalSelection, hisgarus be’Umos.
Joe, I see you are very busy and don’t let up.
And unfortunately, that is the situation in E.Y.
Moderator, please, delete this discussion.
DH, was Yosef right in accusing his brothers of being shkotsim for following their psakim? Draw conclusions.
Fix-it-up, in such a case, I do hear.
A ma’amin, Oomis did not bash Chassidim in any way, she just asked a rhetorical question.
Outlandish — yes, untsniusdic — no.
According to you, on-the ball, frum women are not tsniusdic — they were unusual clothing.
On the ball, why? They might look funny for contemporary people. But untsniusdic? You bring a proof from one shvere chumra to support another one.
Fix-it-up, in fact, it is mehudar. It covers the legs completely (or almost so). A woman who wears it won’t have problems while sitting or getting into the car.
Fix-it-up, YES! Tell me a good svora why it should be ossur. Someone started this chumra and pushed it, but there is no good reason for it.
On the ball, only if it has a 2-feet long tail draging on the ground, and it is not the minhag ha’mokom to have it. Still, it would be more tsniusdic than a just-bellow-the knee skirt.
There is nothing wrong with very long skirts.
What are that Rov’s ta’anos on “Mishpacha”?
Bombmaniac, Torah mandates death penalty in numerous cases. So what do you mean that you are be’shita against the death penalty?
Basketofradishes, when bad things happen, Chazal say we need to check out our deeds.